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Re: Nikki Haley on 2024: I Can Be the New Leader America Needs
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2023, 09:26:12 pm »
You're omitting the category of people who aren't fond of the Confederate flag but don't embrace transgenderism.

I'm in Ohio, and I can tell you that the Confederate flag is not popular here among most Republicans, while those same people are very much opposed to the cult of transgenderism.

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Re: Nikki Haley on 2024: I Can Be the New Leader America Needs
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2023, 09:37:52 pm »
I don't know why Haley chose to take down statues/flags. Was it something she had to do because of the state lege?
The removal of flags and statues and the attempt to erase history annoys the heck out of me. But it's not a new thing. The high school I went to...their football team was the Rebels. The presence of the Confederate flag was a gimme. I don't recall any of us even making the connection. It was just cool. The year after I graduated (1971) they were forced to change the name of the team and ditch the flag. It took them years to go back to a state championship, lol.

I also don't know her other political stances. If she runs, I'll look into it. I'm not generally a one issue voter.

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Re: Nikki Haley on 2024: I Can Be the New Leader America Needs
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2023, 09:43:48 pm »
Like I said, I oppose the tearing down of those statues, and also the ridiculous name-changing frenzy.  It just always struck me as kind of odd that the flag of a defeated rebellion still gets flown.  I also get why an agency of the government - as opposed to private citizens - shouldn't fly that flag.

To me, that's a completely different issue from private citizens who choose to fly it to express their solidarity with Lynyrd Skynyrd, Jack Daniels, and NASCAR.

Swing and a miss.

It is the flag that is the archetype.  Skynyrd, Jack Daniels, and NASCAR align THEMSELVES... to the architype, not the other way around.

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Re: Nikki Haley on 2024: I Can Be the New Leader America Needs
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2023, 09:47:08 pm »
Swing and a miss.

It is the flag that is the archetype.  Skynyrd, Jack Daniels, and NASCAR align THEMSELVES... to the architype, not the other way around.

Thanks @roamer_1 I was coming to that.
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Re: Nikki Haley on 2024: I Can Be the New Leader America Needs
« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2023, 10:21:55 pm »
You're omitting the category of people who aren't fond of the Confederate flag but don't embrace transgenderism.

I'm in Ohio, and I can tell you that the Confederate flag is not popular here among most Republicans, while those same people are very much opposed to the cult of transgenderism.

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Re: Nikki Haley on 2024: I Can Be the New Leader America Needs
« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2023, 11:26:04 pm »
You're omitting the category of people who aren't fond of the Confederate flag but don't embrace transgenderism.

I'm in Ohio, and I can tell you that the Confederate flag is not popular here among most Republicans, while those same people are very much opposed to the cult of transgenderism.

There are a few aspects of northern culture that I am not too fond of either., but would expect a little common ground when it comes to honoring one's ancestry and family history.  p.s. I married a Yankee  :cool:
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I display the Confederate Battle Flag in honor of my great great great grandfathers who spilled blood at Wilson's Creek and Shiloh.  5 others served in the WBTS with honor too.

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Re: Nikki Haley on 2024: I Can Be the New Leader America Needs
« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2023, 11:26:06 pm »
No, no, Nikki, no!
Cuz you're a Rin, Rin, Rin, RINO...!

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Re: Nikki Haley on 2024: I Can Be the New Leader America Needs
« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2023, 03:52:44 am »
There are a few aspects of northern culture that I am not too fond of either., but would expect a little common ground when it comes to honoring one's ancestry and family history.  p.s. I married a Yankee  :cool:

Again...I think you'd find a lot more sympathy for things like renaming schools and tearing down statues.  But in terms of the flag itself...you have to understand that a lot of people outside the South don't have the same association with it that you do.  We have statutes of generals/leaders that are under attack, and people wanting to rename schools that are named after people like Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln.  We get that you don't want your statutes torn down or your schools renamed either.  But we don't fly the confederate battle flag in our state buildings, so there just isn't any resonance.

If the duly elected governor of South Carolina orders that particular flag not be flown in state buildings, that just elicits just a big old shrug from most other Republicans in other regions, and isn't a disqualifier for Haley.