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Racist fake clergyman tweets:Where has the child's skintone been reported? I certainly had no idea whether he was black, white or anything else. This idiot's tweet was the first time I saw any reference to it.

But without know anything about the child's ethnicity, I read a great many comments about holding the parent(s) responsible for permitting access to the weapon. This guy is such a freakin' liar and phony.
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" School administrators admitted that Richneck Elementary School knew the first grader who shot his teacher had been accused of having a gun in his backpack earlier that day and had searched the little boy’s bag but not found the weapon."
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I'm wondering if whoever searched the backpack actually FOUND the gun.

But then -- perhaps considering the kid's ethnicity and the consequences of "punishing" him -- the person put it back, and told him to leave it there until he got home...

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I'm wondering if whoever searched the backpack actually FOUND the gun.

But then -- perhaps considering the kid's ethnicity and the consequences of "punishing" him -- the person put it back, and told him to leave it there until he got home...
I do not understand that comment. According to an above  comment the student was caucasian. What rational adult is going to trust that a 6-7 year old is okay to carry a loaded pistol for any length of time? Are they hoping that another student won't see it by accident? Heck Alec Baldwin is 64 years old and I wouldn't trust him with a gun for a minute.
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verga:
"According to an above  comment the student was caucasian"

I seriously, seriously doubt the veracity of "the comment" to which you refer.

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Handgun used by 6-year-old who shot teacher was secured with trigger lock and ‘out of reach’ on closet shelf, attorney says

Richneck Elementary School in Newport News, Virginia. (Jay Paul/Getty Images/TNS)
JANUARY 21, 2023 PETER DUJARDIN - DAILY PRESS

The 9 mm handgun a 6-year-old student used to shoot a teacher at Richneck Elementary School was secured with a trigger lock and kept out of the boy’s reach at the family’s Newport News home, according to an attorney representing the child’s mother.

On Thursday, the boy’s family issued its first public comments since the Jan. 6 shooting, expressing sympathy for 25-year-old teacher who was wounded and disclosing that the boy suffers from “an acute disability” and was under a specialized care plan at school.

The family’s statement said the gun was secured.

“Our family has always been committed to responsible gun ownership and keeping firearms out of the reach of children,” the statement said.

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They need to get some paranormal investigators in there.  Ghosts or spirits are the only explanation for the kid having a handgun so inaccessible. :whistle:
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I doubt this is true.
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secured with a trigger lock and kept out of the boy’s reach
More or less.  :pondering:
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I keep hearing about how guns commit crimes. This must be what happened. /s

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Link:  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/family-of-6-year-old-who-shot-teacher-releases-statement-says-gun-was-secure/ar-AA16wEFY

It took 15 days for a parent to come forward with this 'safe gun storage' story?
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Link:  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/family-of-6-year-old-who-shot-teacher-releases-statement-says-gun-was-secure/ar-AA16wEFY

It took 15 days for a parent to come forward with this 'safe gun storage' story?
It might have taken that long to get through the usual media filters.

Those trigger locks can be defeated https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Video+hacking+padlocks, and I don't know many kids who aren't capable of climbing to get anything they really want to. There was a time in my house when every vertical piece of furniture (bookcases, etc.) was screwed to the floor and the wall so it would not tip over, because sooner or later, despite punishments, temptation would win out.
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Did they forget to include the part about how the magazine/ammunition was kept in a totally separate location from the gun and also the the key to the trigger lock? I believe this malarkey as much as the schools story that they searched the kids backpack and found nothing.

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Virginia boy who shot teacher Abigail Zwerner told another he wanted to set her on fire: report
By Matthew Sedacca   
January 21, 2023 1:55pm

A 6-year-old who shot his teacher allegedly told another educator he wanted to light her on fire and watch her die, according to a report.

Last month, the troubled boy nearly made good on his apparent murderous impulses, shooting first grader teacher Abigail Zwerner at Richneck Elementary School in Newport News., Va., officials have said. Zwerner survived.

Zwerner and other Richneck teachers said they had shared their fears about the child’s grave behavior with administrators, only to have their concerns downplayed or ignored, The Washington Post reported.  ... NY Post

Gee, I remember when the racist "Bishop" Talbert Swan told us the child was white.
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Much more likely the gun was laying out in the open, fully loaded and chambered.
It is more than doubtful that the kid would know how to load the weapon, chamber a round, release the safety and fire.
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Racist fake clergyman tweets:Where has the child's skintone been reported? I certainly had no idea whether he was black, white or anything else. This idiot's tweet was the first time I saw any reference to it.

But without know anything about the child's ethnicity, I read a great many comments about holding the parent(s) responsible for permitting access to the weapon. This guy is such a freakin' liar and phony.

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I have been assuming all along that the shooter was a black boy.

Mostly because there are no photos or film of any of his relatives protesting his arrest or any media releases  stating he is white.

Also,who commits the most murders in the US,black people or white people?
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I do not understand that comment. According to an above  comment the student was caucasian.

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I just posted he is black,and this was based on who does the most shootings in the US.

This is just a guess,though.

So is the statement that he is white.

AFAIK,his race and name have never been revealed.


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I do not understand that comment. According to an above  comment the student was caucasian. What rational adult is going to trust that a 6-7 year old is okay to carry a loaded pistol for any length of time? Are they hoping that another student won't see it by accident? Heck Alec Baldwin is 64 years old and I wouldn't trust him with a gun for a minute.
Right. Even back in the day when we brought firearms to school for 'Show and Tell', they were kept in the Principal's office until time came to show them, and again until it was time to go home.
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@mountaineer

I have been assuming all along that the shooter was a black boy.

Mostly because there are no photos or film of any of his relatives protesting his arrest or any media releases  stating he is white.

Also,who commits the most murders in the US,black people or white people?
Might want to specify "Firearm murders", there. Fauci and the Medical Cabal have really skewed those results (even though they'll likely never even be charged).
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Cyber wrote:
"I doubt this is true"

Agreed.

How else did the kid get the gun, withOUT a trigger lock on it?

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Re reply 8 above.

Like I said in the other thread:
This one is "bad seed".

As such, needs to be... removed.

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Virginia boy who shot teacher Abigail Zwerner told another he wanted to set her on fire: report
By Matthew Sedacca   
January 21, 2023 1:55pm

A 6-year-old who shot his teacher allegedly told another educator he wanted to light her on fire and watch her die, according to a report.

Last month, the troubled boy nearly made good on his apparent murderous impulses, shooting first grader teacher Abigail Zwerner at Richneck Elementary School in Newport News., Va., officials have said. Zwerner survived.

Zwerner and other Richneck teachers said they had shared their fears about the child’s grave behavior with administrators, only to have their concerns downplayed or ignored, The Washington Post reported.  ... NY Post

Gee, I remember when the racist "Bishop" Talbert Swan told us the child was white.
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Much more likely the gun was laying out in the open, fully loaded and chambered.
It is more than doubtful that the kid would know how to load the weapon, chamber a round, release the safety and fire.
Although it is likely the gun was not secured, it is not doubtful at all if the kid had seen it often enough that the kid would be able to load it place it in battery and disengage the safety (if there was one engaged).

Kids pick things up by watching, and some do so very well. If this kid had a 'thing' for the teacher, he'd have been paying close attention to how to work the gun.
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He doesn't look white, is all I'm saying, the faux bishop's protestations notwithstanding.
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