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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2023, 12:58:20 am »
And CNN wonders why they have no audience.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2023, 01:14:48 am »
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But Roy has just suggested to CNN’s Manu Raju that there might be a possibility for McCarthy. According to Raju, “in a welcome sign for Kevin McCarthy,” Rep. Chip Roy told Raju that he had had “more productive” talks over the last two hours with McCarthy allies than he has had over the last few weeks. “He expects to be part of group talks tonight.”

Raju said Roy also said that he is not a “hard-no” on McCarthy, “While he said that the ‘clown show’ GOP conference meeting yesterday ‘hardened opposition’ to McCarthy, he added that they are ‘trying to repair that damage today, and progress has been made.'”

That sounds like he thinks they may be moving more toward the possibility of a deal in the offing. But the problem with this is how they guarantee that they will get the change that so much of the base wants if they go along and vote in McCarthy. Based on what Roy has said so far, one would think he’s going to hold the line on getting what the 20 members who are objecting (and much of the base) want. But we’ll have to see what breaks after the meeting.

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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2023, 01:15:55 am »
House voting to adjourn until noon tomorrow.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2023, 01:17:26 am »
Good thing is if McCarthy reneges on his promises, his narrow majority can shut him down cold. If he wants to kowtow to Dems, he'll answer in '24.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2023, 01:20:50 am »
Got the right video link up there now.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2023, 01:28:01 am »
House adjourns till tomorrow at 12pm

The Dems tried to stop the adjournment...216-214
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2023, 01:34:24 am »
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1) A win for McCarthy. The House votes to adjourn. Only 4 GOP defectors. They voted with the Dems to adjourn. The vote, 216-214. Switch one vote, and you have a tie. By rule, the motion to adjourn would have failed at 215-215. Tie votes fail automatically.

2) House back tomorrow at noon et. Will resume with 7th vote for Speaker.

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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2023, 01:36:02 am »
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4 GOPers side with Dems against adjourning: Biggs, Boebert, Crane, Gaetz

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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2023, 01:38:26 am »
   Thank You Rep Chip Roy for continuing to hold McCarthy's feet to the fire.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2023, 01:40:46 am »
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BREAKING: McCarthy leadership Super PAC just cut a deal to not get involved in safe open seat primaries, per Punchbowl News

For many anti-McCarthy votes, this was a top concern

7:38 PM · Jan 4, 2023


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This deal paves the way for more MAGA candidates to win in open-seat primaries without facing well-funded establishment candidates

7:42 PM · Jan 4, 2023

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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2023, 01:44:49 am »
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BREAKING: McCarthy leadership Super PAC just cut a deal to not get involved in safe open seat primaries, per Punchbowl News   For many anti-McCarthy votes, this was a top concern

7:38 PM · Jan 4, 2023

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This deal paves the way for more MAGA candidates to win in open-seat primaries without facing well-funded establishment candidates

7:42 PM · Jan 4, 2023

Ironic, considering McCarthy's funds saved Boebert's seat.

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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2023, 01:47:26 am »
   Thank You Rep Chip Roy for continuing to hold McCarthy's feet to the fire.

 *hmmmm*   He voted for adjournment.

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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2023, 01:54:13 am »
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GOP FL Rep-elect Cammack on Fox on Speaker dispute: Now it's at the point where we have to find out who has a personal vendetta and who has a policy issue and the policy issues we can navigate. I think the more voices that we have at the table, the better.

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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2023, 01:57:26 am »
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McCarthy says he isn't considering dropping out. Said tonight's conversations were productive.

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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2023, 02:00:03 am »
Great speech. Too bad so many are willing to fold for the "sure thing" instead of principle.

I know it's the nature of politics because you have to compromise sometimes to get things done, but this is not one of those times. Funny how principled Pubs are threatened with the loss of committee seats, but Liz Cheney wasn't thrown out of the party.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2023, 02:06:53 am »
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McCarthy says he isn't considering dropping out. Said tonight's conversations were productive.

8:22 PM · Jan 4, 2023

A perfect example of what is wrong.... he wants that title so badly he is willing to sell his soul to get it..  Makes me wonder who the buyer is....

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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #41 on: January 05, 2023, 02:07:11 am »
McCarthy-aligned super PAC agrees not to interfere in primaries amid speaker stalemate

Juliegrace Brufke  |  January 04, 2023  |  08:17 PM


The Congressional Leadership Fund, a Kevin McCarthy-aligned leadership PAC, has struck a deal with the influential conservative group Club for Growth to refrain from spending in contested GOP primary races amid the California Republican's struggle to win the speaker’s gavel.

The move is a sizable concession for McCarthy, with the demand for leadership not to play in primaries being one of his defectors' top priorities.

"Kevin McCarthy has effectively led House Republicans from the Minority to the Majority and we want to see him continue to lead the party so we can pick up seats for the third cycle in a row,” CLF President Dan Conston said in a statement.

"CLF will not spend in any open-seat primaries in safe Republican districts and CLF will not grant resources to other super PAC's to do so. CLF has never spent a dollar against a Republican incumbent before and obviously will continue that policy in the future," he added.  .  .

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/house/mccarthy-aligned-super-pac-speaker-stalemate
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #42 on: January 05, 2023, 02:11:30 am »
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GOP FL Rep-elect Cammack on Fox on Speaker dispute: Now it's at the point where we have to find out who has a personal vendetta and who has a policy issue and the policy issues we can navigate. I think the more voices that we have at the table, the better.

7:31 PM · Jan 4, 2023

I'd start here ...  (Video)


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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #43 on: January 05, 2023, 02:12:23 am »
A perfect example of what is wrong.... he wants that title so badly he is willing to sell his soul to get it..  Makes me wonder who the buyer is....

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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #44 on: January 05, 2023, 02:18:51 am »
Ironic, considering McCarthy's funds saved Boebert's seat.

McCarthy's PAC spent a grand total of $0 on behalf of Boebert in 2022.  This is the pitfall of making it up as you go.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #45 on: January 05, 2023, 02:26:24 am »
*hmmmm*   He voted for adjournment.

   It's not lost on me @Right_in_Virginia that the last time the Freedom Caucus pulled this and got Boehner to not only give up his quest for Speaker but RESIGN, Ted Cruz, your nemesis, was involved.  This time it's the 2016 Ted's campaign manager Chip Roy that's got your knickers twisted.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #46 on: January 05, 2023, 02:29:33 am »
I gotta ask, @Right_in_Virginia .  Is your hard-on for a Swamp-loving Establishment hack like Kevin McCarthy because of Trump supporting him?  Or is it because Mike Pence supports him?
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #47 on: January 05, 2023, 02:46:00 am »
Concessions with a snake... what could go wrong? Hold the line fellows... hold the line.


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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #48 on: January 05, 2023, 02:50:29 am »
   It's not lost on me @Right_in_Virginia that the last time the Freedom Caucus pulled this

What may be lost on you (I don't know) is that the Freedom Caucus is not acting in unison, and Gaetz, the ringleader, isn't even a member.

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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #49 on: January 05, 2023, 03:29:36 am »
"Fox’s @BritHume says he’s never seen anything like the current Speaker stalemate before: “200 members of the House want a certain candidate and 20 don’t — but the 20 are calling the tune. That’s an interesting way to do business.”  (Video)


https://mobile.twitter.com/TVNewsNow/status/1610805440207818752