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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #200 on: January 05, 2023, 05:32:59 pm »
No, I'd rather elect more of them, in general.

You do realize that McCarthy/McConnell/McDaniel have been working diligently to prevent that from happening, right?
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« Reply #201 on: January 05, 2023, 05:35:04 pm »
You do realize that McCarthy/McConnell/McDaniel have been working diligently to prevent that from happening, right?

Yes, they have and that is a major part of the problem.

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« Reply #202 on: January 05, 2023, 05:35:13 pm »
    With Donalds back up for nomination, apparently the Freedom Caucus is not happy with the concessions granted so far by McCarthy.
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« Reply #203 on: January 05, 2023, 05:40:27 pm »
   McCarthy will go down again.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #204 on: January 05, 2023, 05:42:12 pm »
Yes, I believe we are.
If you still prefer electing a Speaker by simple majority--We would Get Hakeem Jeffries as illustrated by all previous 6 votes.
Apparently someone much smarter than me decided simple majority is fine but "only" by the majority party in electing a speaker.
You're much wiser than I so I'm sure I left holes in my analysis you can contend.

We basically do the same thing with primaries.  And I've never had much use for the kind of politician that chooses to belong to a party, participates in primaries, but then won't support the winner if it doesn't happen to be him.



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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #205 on: January 05, 2023, 05:42:38 pm »
   McCarthy will go down again.

Yep.  Stubborn fool.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #206 on: January 05, 2023, 05:42:53 pm »
   McCarthy will go down again.

Yep, that's 7 against McCarthy already.  8th vote coming up next.

McCarthy becomes that much more of an embarassment after each subsequent vote.
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« Reply #207 on: January 05, 2023, 05:43:11 pm »
   McCarthy will go down again.

Already has!
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #208 on: January 05, 2023, 05:43:59 pm »
We basically do the same thing with primaries.  And I've never had much use for the kind of politician that chooses to belong to a party, participates in primaries, but then won't support the winner if it doesn't happen to be him.

What they're not accepting is Establishment-business-as-usual.  And for that they have earned my praise.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #209 on: January 05, 2023, 05:44:03 pm »
We basically do the same thing with primaries.  And I've never had much use for the kind of politician that chooses to belong to a party, participates in primaries, but then won't support the winner if it doesn't happen to be him.

And I am directly the opposite. Party be damned if it crosses lines that principles will not allow.

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« Reply #210 on: January 05, 2023, 05:44:33 pm »
   McCarthy will go down again.

But, but, but nobody else wants the position. That’s what we are told to believe.
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« Reply #211 on: January 05, 2023, 05:44:47 pm »
Yep.  Stubborn fool.

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Need a number?

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« Reply #212 on: January 05, 2023, 05:45:20 pm »
What they're not accepting is Establishment-business-as-usual.  And for that they have earned my praise.

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« Reply #213 on: January 05, 2023, 05:46:06 pm »
Kinda wondering at the inside baseball here. Has McCarthy not moved and blew the dissenters off again, or something else?
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« Reply #214 on: January 05, 2023, 05:47:08 pm »
   Geatz just voted for Trump
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #215 on: January 05, 2023, 05:47:16 pm »
We basically do the same thing with primaries.  And I've never had much use for the kind of politician that chooses to belong to a party, participates in primaries, but then won't support the winner if it doesn't happen to be him.

I have a very simple rule for voting, ALWAYS vote for the most conservative candidate available. Primaries or generals. Doesn't matter.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #216 on: January 05, 2023, 05:47:31 pm »
Freakin' Gaetz.  What an AH.

Like it wasn't already a clown car circus.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #217 on: January 05, 2023, 05:48:31 pm »
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John James (R-MI), nominates McCarthy ahead of the 7th ballot, giving the best nominating speech thus far.

The irony here is startling.  John James would be a US Senator right now if not for the GOP Establishment that McCarthy represents.  James won the 2020 Senate election in Michigan, only to have it stolen by Detroit printing presses at 3 am.  And the GOP Establishment didn't do a damn thing about it.

To Congressman James, Kevin McCarthy is not your friend.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #218 on: January 05, 2023, 05:49:20 pm »
   Geatz just voted for Trump

If only for a day, I'm on board with that.  Just to make Pelosi hand him the gavel.
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« Reply #219 on: January 05, 2023, 05:49:26 pm »
Freakin' Gaetz.  What an AH.
He has proven himself to me. I'd vote FOR him in a heartbeat.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #220 on: January 05, 2023, 05:50:45 pm »
He has proven himself to me. I'd vote FOR him in a heartbeat.

DJT as Speaker?  No thanks.....
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #222 on: January 05, 2023, 05:54:01 pm »
We basically do the same thing with primaries.  And I've never had much use for the kind of politician that chooses to belong to a party, participates in primaries, but then won't support the winner if it doesn't happen to be him.

I think the problem has become one of entitlement, rather than earned respect and loyalty.(regarding speaker)

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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #223 on: January 05, 2023, 05:54:34 pm »
DJT as Speaker?  No thanks.....

I was speaking of Gaetz. But DJT as speaker would be interesting as well.

Meanwhile, McCarthy appears to be making a little progress this round.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #224 on: January 05, 2023, 05:54:41 pm »
Kinda wondering at the inside baseball here. Has McCarthy not moved and blew the dissenters off again, or something else?

McCarthy has chosen vinegar over honey.  If he becomes Speaker, there will be zero Conservatives on the rules committee.
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