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New York Supreme Court Nukes Democrat's Red Flag Laws, Includes Biting Message

By Brandon Morse
January 04, 2023

The left’s workaround for the Second Amendment, known as “Red Flag Laws,” has been the latest trend in gun confiscation from the authoritarian left. The idea is that anyone can report a citizen for suspicious activity or being a danger to themselves or others, and authorities will arrive at the home and take their firearms. In order to get them back, the accused must go to court and prove they aren’t a danger.

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New York is naturally one of those places that wanted to push Red Flag Laws on the populace, but the state’s Supreme Court recently handed down a ruling that not only put a stop to that scheme, but the Justice who wrote the opinion wanted New York’s politicians to understand in no uncertain terms that this kind of anti-2A nonsense isn’t going to fly.

Justice Thomas E. Moran wrote of the case that CPLR-§63, New York’s Red Flag Law, doesn’t “sufficiently protect a citizen’s rights and therefore is unconstitutional.”

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This Court is not unmindful of the dangers firearms may pose when possessed in the hands of a person suffering a mental illness, harboring a criminal intent, or both. However, when viewed objectively, CPLR §63-a’s goal of removing weapons from the otherwise lawful possession of them by their owners, without adequate constitutional safeguards, cannot be [*8]condoned by this Court.

While some may advocate that “the ends justify the means” in support of §63-a, where those means violate a fundamental right under our Bill of Rights to achieve their ends, then the law, on it’s face, cannot stand.

Therefore, the “Temporary Extreme Risk Protection Order” (TERPO) and “Extreme Risk Protection Order” (ERPO) are deemed to be unconstitutional by this Court as CPLR Article 63-a is presently drafted. It can not be stated clearly enough that the Second Amendment is not a second class right, nor should it ever be treated as such.

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Source:  https://redstate.com/brandon_morse/2023/01/04/new-york-supreme-court-nukes-democrats-red-flag-laws-includes-biting-message-n683078

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Keep in mind:  the "Supreme Court" in New York is the lowest level trial court of record.  Decisions by the Supreme Court are subject to two levels of review, first by the Appellate Division of the Supreme Court, and then by the NY Court of Appeal, which is the highest court in NY state.

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NY red flag law ruled unconstitutional.
New York’s red flag law has been ruled unconstitutional, knocking down a key gun control measure as the state pushes revamped gun laws through the courts.
#2a  #constitution  ##ccw  #infringements  #newyork
  https://americanmilitarynews.com/2023/01/ny-red-flag-law-ruled-unconstitutional
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This is a lower court ruling.
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Rochester, N.Y. — New York State Supreme Court Judge Thomas Moran ruled last week that one of the state's strongest gun laws is unconstitutional.

The Extreme Risk Protection Order law, also known as the Red Flag law, allows law enforcement to temporarily seize a person's guns based on someone else making a written allegation in a petition to a judge that the person poses a harm to themself or others.  ...
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No mention of an appeal.

The judge's ruling - and reasoning - is set out here, and it's worth a reading. I appreciate his final comment: It can not be stated clearly enough that the Second Amendment is not a second class right, nor should it ever be treated as such.
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Keep in mind:  the "Supreme Court" in New York is the lowest level trial court of record.  Decisions by the Supreme Court are subject to two levels of review, first by the Appellate Division of the Supreme Court, and then by the NY Court of Appeal, which is the highest court in NY state.
Well being it's New York, and it's leadership is as stupid as California's, do you think they will double and triple down on stupid?

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Well being it's New York, and it's leadership is as stupid as California's, do you think they will double and triple down on stupid?

It's entirely possible.