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https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/30/investing/dow-stock-market-2022

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Wall Street is bidding goodbye – and good riddance – to 2022. It has been a year most investors would rather forget.

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, a snarled supply chain and another year of Covid turned markets on their head this year. Inflation surged around the globe and central banks hiked rates at a historic pace to keep price hikes from spiraling out of control. China, the world’s second-largest economy, periodically shut down entire cities to contain the pandemic. Energy supplies were cut off, but recession fears send demand falling in the second half of the year anyway. Intense storms and climate change upended markets, too.

That left few safe places for investors to park their money this year.

The Dow fell 152 points, or 0.5% Friday, the last trading day of the year. Over the course of the year, the Dow has fallen over 9%, its worst year since 2008.

The S&P 500 was 0.7% lower Friday, leaving it down 19.9% for the year.

The Nasdaq Composite Index was down 1% Friday, close to its lowest level since July 2020. The tech-heavy index has been battered this year, falling 34%.

Stocks had a miserable year, but bonds fared even worse. Inflation, massive rate hikes and a super-strong dollar left bonds unattractive to investors.



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Even his lackeys at CNN can't hide the fact that Pedo Joe is taking us over the financial cliff.  And just think insider sentiment going into '23 is that '23 will be even more bearish.
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Re: Stocks are having their worst year since 2008. Bonds are even worse
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2022, 05:33:55 pm »
And I personally don't think we've seen anything yet!
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Re: Stocks are having their worst year since 2008. Bonds are even worse
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2022, 05:39:50 pm »
The inevitable consequence of a bubble.
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Re: Stocks are having their worst year since 2008. Bonds are even worse
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2022, 05:44:31 pm »
And I personally don't think we've seen anything yet!

Agree 100%.  It's not a question of if, but when.  A $32T federal government deficit hole , and rapidly accelerating increases just doesn't sustain a 33K DJIA in any sane world.

I personally think the bottom falls out at and soon after the first major international decoupling of  COMEX from $USD

When the $USD is no longer the reference currency, we'll crash to 3rd world status in no time.
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Re: Stocks are having their worst year since 2008. Bonds are even worse
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2022, 05:45:05 pm »
The inevitable consequence of a bubble.

 :yowsa: And the landing will be a hard one!
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Re: Stocks are having their worst year since 2008. Bonds are even worse
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2022, 08:46:42 pm »
It's odd. The old, usual conventional wisdom said...Have a mix of stocks and bonds. The bonds will increase in value if stocks go down.

Not so in this instance.

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Re: Stocks are having their worst year since 2008. Bonds are even worse
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2022, 10:12:48 pm »
Would have been a great campaign issue for Republicans to run on.  Oh well.
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Re: Stocks are having their worst year since 2008. Bonds are even worse
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2022, 03:37:54 pm »
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Re: Stocks are having their worst year since 2008. Bonds are even worse
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2022, 06:12:26 pm »
I've tracked year my investments for year end performance since 1982. 

2022 was only the second year I have been down since '82. 

'09 was the only other year, when I was down 6.17% for the Obama crash.

'22 was only the second time...  down 1.12%

Incredbily bad, in light of what I feel was absolute 10+% inflation for the year.  Pedo Joe, this is all on you.
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