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Offline Elderberry

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Will Anyone Pay a Price for Suppressing Freedom of Speech?
« on: December 15, 2022, 01:51:55 am »
Powerline 12/14/2022

We know now that tech companies cooperated with government officials to suppress Americans’ freedom of speech. Was that legal? Of course! say liberals: the First Amendment doesn’t apply to private companies. (This is the first and only time when liberals accord such unfettered discretion to private industry.) But is that really the end of the story?

In yesterday’s Wall Street Journal, law professor Philip Hamburger took up the question. He concludes that a plausible case can be made that the collusion between public and private actors constituted a criminal conspiracy to deprive Americans of their civil rights. This is the relevant criminal statute:

    Section 241 of Title 18 of the U.S. Code provides: “If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person . . . in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same, . . . they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.”

How might it apply?

    Because the First Amendment doesn’t bar private parties from independently suppressing speech, Section 241 would apply to tech censorship only if government officers, acting as part of a conspiracy, have violated the Constitution. … The type of suppression most clearly barred by the First Amendment was the 17th-century English censorship imposed partly through cooperative private entities—universities and the Stationers’ Company, the printers trade guild.

More: https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/12/will-anyone-pay-a-price-for-suppressing-freedom-of-speech.php

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Re: Will Anyone Pay a Price for Suppressing Freedom of Speech?
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2022, 07:03:00 am »
Who needs Russians?

There's plenty of totalitarian collusion happening right here at home...

(domestic terrorism!)
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Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Re: Will Anyone Pay a Price for Suppressing Freedom of Speech?
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2022, 08:05:19 am »
Don't hold your breath.  *****rollingeyes*****

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Re: Will Anyone Pay a Price for Suppressing Freedom of Speech?
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2022, 09:12:00 am »
But that price has already been paid by millions of COVID dead and their loved ones.
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis

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Re: Will Anyone Pay a Price for Suppressing Freedom of Speech?
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2022, 11:35:28 pm »
Question:
"Will Anyone Pay a Price for Suppressing Freedom of Speech?"

Answer:
Yes.
It will be paid...  by those who attempt to speak "too freely"...

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Re: Will Anyone Pay a Price for Suppressing Freedom of Speech?
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2022, 11:41:30 pm »
   We'll soon know by how well these take off, I guess.

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