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Precision Versus Massed Fires: Potential Lessons From The Ukraine War
By Dan Gouré
December 12, 2022
 
Ukraine may provide answers to many questions regarding the way high-end wars of the 21st century will be fought. One of the most important of these questions is the appropriate balance between precision and massed fires. Both sides have employed large numbers of precision and unguided projectiles in the nearly year-long war. The answer to this question is of critical importance for the Department of Defense (DoD) as it not only seeks to replenish munitions stockpiles drawn down as a result of aiding Ukraine but also considers what combination of munitions and missiles is needed and in what numbers to prepare U.S. forces for potential high-end conflicts with Russia, China, or both.

It is clear that Ukraine has become an artillery/rocket war. The two sides have fired a stunning number of artillery rounds. These are largely non-guided projectiles of various calibers. Some reports have Russia firing up to 20,000 rounds a day while Ukraine has been expending between four and seven thousand per day. These usage rates are reminiscent of past Great Power conflicts. As a recent report by the Royal United Services Institute observed, massed artillery fires are being used by the Russian Army to compensate for the poor quality of its personnel, the inadequacy of combined arms tactics, and poor command and control:

The generally mediocre performance of Russia's ground forces has been increasingly offset by their leveraging of massed artillery fires to facilitate a slow and methodical advance. Sustained bombardment has progressively displaced the local population and levelled the settlements and infrastructure that were being defended, forcing the Ukrainian military to abandon territory after it is devastated.

https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2022/12/12/precision_versus_massed_fires_potential_lessons_from_the_ukraine_war_869627.html
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Re: Precision Versus Massed Fires: Potential Lessons From The Ukraine War
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2022, 01:17:38 pm »
All of this "precision" stuff is dependent on the GPS system... hope no one figures out how to disable it...

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Re: Precision Versus Massed Fires: Potential Lessons From The Ukraine War
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2022, 02:02:23 pm »
All of this "precision" stuff is dependent on the GPS system... hope no one figures out how to disable it...

Satellite jamming ‘normal’ by militaries during conflict, not peacetime: State Dept. official

https://breakingdefense.com/2022/03/satellite-jamming-normal-by-militaries-during-conflict-not-peacetime-state-dept-official/

Why isn’t Russia doing more to jam GPS in Ukraine?

https://news.yahoo.com/why-isn-t-russia-jamming-105200516.html

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Russian forces have been regularly jamming signals from the U.S. Global Positioning System as part of its war on Ukraine. These signals underlie many aspects of modern warfare, from navigating surveillance drones and targeting missiles to enabling mobile radios.

The importance of GPS as a military tool was underscored by Kremlin media in November as troops were massing along the Ukraine border. After Russia demonstrated it could destroy a satellite in space, a television commentator known to be an unofficial mouthpiece of President Vladimir Putin said the nation could “blind NATO” by shooting down all GPS satellites.

Despite this, Russian interference with GPS in Ukraine has not been nearly as aggressive as many observers had expected.

Experts within the GPS/positioning, navigation, and timing communities have proposed a number of possible reasons for this. Here are the most prevalent, all of which are based entirely on publicly available information:

Russia’s electronic warfare capability isn’t as good as it was thought to be. Russian forces have a fearsome reputation when it comes to electronic warfare. And they go out of their way to reinforce this. At one point, the state-owned news agency Sputnik proclaimed Russian EW capabilities “render aircraft carriers useless.”/quote]
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Re: Precision Versus Massed Fires: Potential Lessons From The Ukraine War
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2022, 07:35:40 pm »
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Why isn’t Russia doing more to jam GPS in Ukraine?

Probably because they don't have the capability despite all their past bluster.
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Re: Precision Versus Massed Fires: Potential Lessons From The Ukraine War
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2022, 07:55:38 pm »
Satellite jamming ‘normal’ by militaries during conflict, not peacetime: State Dept. official

https://breakingdefense.com/2022/03/satellite-jamming-normal-by-militaries-during-conflict-not-peacetime-state-dept-official/

Why isn’t Russia doing more to jam GPS in Ukraine?

https://news.yahoo.com/why-isn-t-russia-jamming-105200516.html

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Russian forces have been regularly jamming signals from the U.S. Global Positioning System as part of its war on Ukraine. These signals underlie many aspects of modern warfare, from navigating surveillance drones and targeting missiles to enabling mobile radios.

The importance of GPS as a military tool was underscored by Kremlin media in November as troops were massing along the Ukraine border. After Russia demonstrated it could destroy a satellite in space, a television commentator known to be an unofficial mouthpiece of President Vladimir Putin said the nation could “blind NATO” by shooting down all GPS satellites.

Despite this, Russian interference with GPS in Ukraine has not been nearly as aggressive as many observers had expected.

Experts within the GPS/positioning, navigation, and timing communities have proposed a number of possible reasons for this. Here are the most prevalent, all of which are based entirely on publicly available information:

Russia’s electronic warfare capability isn’t as good as it was thought to be. Russian forces have a fearsome reputation when it comes to electronic warfare. And they go out of their way to reinforce this. At one point, the state-owned news agency Sputnik proclaimed Russian EW capabilities “render aircraft carriers useless.”/quote]
So if I block GPS so you can't use it, then I can't either.... should be able to use that to figure out when you are going to do something nasty to me....   :shrug: