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Fertilizing the oceans with iron could help remove a gigaton of carbon dioxide per year
« on: November 18, 2022, 04:51:17 pm »
https://interestingengineering.com/science/fertilizing-the-oceans-with-iron-could-help-remove-a-gigaton-of-carbon-dioxide-per-year

Easy cheap way to put this global warming nonsense to bed permanently? Interesting idea.
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Re: Fertilizing the oceans with iron could help remove a gigaton of carbon dioxide per year
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2022, 04:59:41 pm »
Which would leave phytoplankton a gigaton less Carbon Dioxide to use in maintaining not only a fundament of the food chain, but in producing oxygen.

Not only is the fixation on Carbon Dioxide as a pollutant deeply flawed, but tinkering with atmospheric gas balances and the most fundamental chemistry of 70% of the Earth's surface is insanity.

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Re: Fertilizing the oceans with iron could help remove a gigaton of carbon dioxide per year
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2022, 05:00:07 pm »
How much iron would be required?
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Re: Fertilizing the oceans with iron could help remove a gigaton of carbon dioxide per year
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2022, 05:03:45 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on November 18, 2022, 04:59:41 pm
Which would leave phytoplankton a gigaton less Carbon Dioxide to use in maintaining not only a fundament of the food chain, but in producing oxygen.

Not only is the fixation on Carbon Dioxide as a pollutant deeply flawed, but tinkering with atmospheric gas balances and the most fundamental chemistry of 70% of the Earth's surface is insanity.

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Re: Fertilizing the oceans with iron could help remove a gigaton of carbon dioxide per year
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2022, 05:27:13 pm »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on November 18, 2022, 04:51:17 pm
Fertilizing the oceans with iron could help remove a gigaton of carbon dioxide per year

Plankton already does that.
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Re: Fertilizing the oceans with iron could help remove a gigaton of carbon dioxide per year
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2022, 05:30:03 pm »
From experience I can tell you that an abundance iron in water is not a good thing in terms of the bacteria that it breeds, for starters.

Other living things higher up the food chain don't really thrive on it either.
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Re: Fertilizing the oceans with iron could help remove a gigaton of carbon dioxide per year
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2022, 05:37:18 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on November 18, 2022, 04:59:41 pm
Which would leave phytoplankton a gigaton less Carbon Dioxide to use in maintaining not only a fundament of the food chain, but in producing oxygen.

Not only is the fixation on Carbon Dioxide as a pollutant deeply flawed, but tinkering with atmospheric gas balances and the most fundamental chemistry of 70% of the Earth's surface is insanity.

I was going to say ludicrous but insane is more accurate.

I’m not big on Bible quotes but there’s gotta be a ton addressing the vanity of man.
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Re: Fertilizing the oceans with iron could help remove a gigaton of carbon dioxide per year
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2022, 05:38:55 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on November 18, 2022, 05:37:18 pm
I was going to say ludicrous but insane is more accurate.

I’m not big on Bible quotes but there’s gotta be a ton addressing the vanity of man.
Someone should write the sci-fi where the aliens came to Earth and pretended to be saving the planet even as they were modifying the climate and chemistry to something more hostile to humans so they could invade en masse.
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Re: Fertilizing the oceans with iron could help remove a gigaton of carbon dioxide per year
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2022, 05:51:49 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on November 18, 2022, 05:38:55 pm
Someone should write the sci-fi where the aliens came to Earth and pretended to be saving the planet even as they were modifying the climate and chemistry to something more hostile to humans so they could invade en masse.

Great storyline.  The idea would be an easy sell to audiences grown up on climate hysteria.  Curse those SUV’s!
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Re: Fertilizing the oceans with iron could help remove a gigaton of carbon dioxide per year
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2022, 06:27:08 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on November 18, 2022, 05:38:55 pm
Someone should write the sci-fi where the aliens came to Earth and pretended to be saving the planet even as they were modifying the climate and chemistry to something more hostile to humans so they could invade en masse.


Oooh!  I like it!  Can I steal the idea?
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Re: Fertilizing the oceans with iron could help remove a gigaton of carbon dioxide per year
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2022, 12:31:17 pm »
We started seeding the oceans with iron in WWI and more so in WWII.
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Re: Fertilizing the oceans with iron could help remove a gigaton of carbon dioxide per year
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2022, 01:08:35 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on November 18, 2022, 04:59:41 pm
Which would leave phytoplankton a gigaton less Carbon Dioxide to use in maintaining not only a fundament of the food chain, but in producing oxygen.

Not only is the fixation on Carbon Dioxide as a pollutant deeply flawed, but tinkering with atmospheric gas balances and the most fundamental chemistry of 70% of the Earth's surface is insanity.

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What was that tagline we all heard on our tv's back in the 70's? Wasn't it,"It's not nice to fool with Mother Nature!"?
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Re: Fertilizing the oceans with iron could help remove a gigaton of carbon dioxide per year
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2022, 02:40:36 pm »
A mad scheme because of the unknown consequences for the whole of life in the ocean.

The only geoengineering schemes that make sense to consider are those that can easily be turned off:  either orbital mylar mirrors/shades that can be furled, unfurled and repositioned, or the much cheaper scheme of increasing the sulphur content of jet fuel used on great circle routes over the arctic (and possibly antarctic) to increase cloud formation.  (The effects of the latter dissipate rapidly if we went back to the current jet fuel mixture on those routes.)
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Re: Fertilizing the oceans with iron could help remove a gigaton of carbon dioxide per year
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2022, 10:14:27 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on November 18, 2022, 05:38:55 pm
Someone should write the sci-fi where the aliens came to Earth and pretended to be saving the planet even as they were modifying the climate and chemistry to something more hostile to humans so they could invade en masse.
The Arrival https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115571/?ref_=ttls_li_tt starring Charlie Sheen had the story line of liens terraforming the Earth by increasing the temperature to be inimicable to humans but supportive of them so that they could displace human life. I doubt that it was the first along those lines.
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