Pompeo dings Trump: GOP needs leader who doesn’t claim ‘victimhood’

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 Pompeo dings Trump: GOP needs leader who doesn’t claim ‘victimhood’
by Julia Mueller - 11/16/22 12:31 PM ET

Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Wednesday said the GOP needs a leader who doesn’t claim “victimhood” in an apparent jab at former President Trump, who repeatedly referred to himself as a “victim” during his Tuesday night speech announcing his run for president in 2024.

“We need more seriousness, less noise, and leaders who are looking forward, not staring in the rearview mirror claiming victimhood,” Pompeo wrote on Twitter.

Though Pompeo didn’t mention the former president by name, but his comments came hours after Trump’s speech.

“I’m a victim, I will tell you. I’m a victim,” Trump at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Fla. 

Trump made the much-anticipated announcement that he would make a third run for the White House just a week after the Republican Party’s disappointing midterm results. 

The GOP’s hoped-for “red wave” failed to materialize, and Democrats were able to hold on to control of the U.S. Senate.

Republicans are on track to win a slim majority in the House, but the underwhelming results have set off a blame game within the party, with many pointing to Trump-backed candidates and their perceived threat to democracy as a key factor.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3738258-pompeo-dings-trump-gop-needs-leader-who-doesnt-claim-victimhood/

[Bigun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA8a2g6tTp0

[libertybele]

Pompeo is absolutely correct.  Trump needs to quit crying that he's a victim. No different than Hillary carrying on after she lost.

[Bigun]

Pompeo is absolutely correct.  Trump needs to quit crying that he's a victim. No different than Hillary carrying on after she lost.

No! He does not need to do that because he, like each of us, is a victim in the truest sense of the word.

[aligncare]

No! He does not need to do that because he, like each of us, is a victim in the truest sense of the word.

Awesome response.  It got me to think. Yes, of course the real victim of a crime here are the voters, and more broadly America herself was/is injured.  America’s reputation, foreign and domestic policy, everything was affected.  Brilliant take,  @Bigun

Of course Trump got royally shafted and has every right to be pissed.  If this had happened to Obama. America would’ve burned to the ground around mounds of bodies.

[Bigun]

Awesome response.  It got me to think. Yes, of course the real victim of a crime here are the voters, and more broadly America herself was/is injured.  America’s reputation, foreign and domestic policy, everything was affected.  Brilliant take,  @Bigun

Of course Trump got royally shafted and has every right to be pissed.  If this had happened to Obama. America would’ve burned to the ground around mounds of bodies.

I'm afraid our moment has been missed @aligncare we should all have been in DC on Jan. 6. 2020. And then invading state and local government bodies after that.   

[Right_in_Virginia]

Pompeo is absolutely correct.  Trump needs to quit crying that he's a victim. No different than Hillary carrying on after she lost.

You may have benefited from watching Trump's speech @libertybele because you'd know the former president was talking about the need to clean out the rot and corruption at the DOJ and FBI.  He cited examples of their abuses of power and the law and included that he, too, has been of victim of them, as has his family.

[libertybele]

You may have benefited from watching Trump's speech @libertybele because you'd know the former president was talking about the need to clean out the rot and corruption at the DOJ and FBI.  He cited examples of their abuses of power and the law and included that he, too, has been of victim of them, as has his family.

@Right_in_Virginia he's talked about draining the swamp numerous times, nothing that I haven't heard him talk about before.  He didn't drain it and that corruption bit him BIGLY.  Yes, he was a victim.  As @Bigun pointed out we are all victims of the leftists.

I don't proclaim to have the answers as I believe that it's too late.  With the talk of amnesty in the wings and the DEMS having control of the Senate I say it's game over. They won. 

[BellyAche]

I think the notion of "victimhood" has to do with his inability to take responsibility for anything, even how his behavior might, just might put people off completely. Yes that's his personality but in the end it does and will continue to alienate many. That's inescapable and can be a negative and obnoxious, whatever your leanings. Trump is what he is.  As Roosevelt said about Nicaragua's Somoza, "“Somoza may be a son of a bitch, but he’s our son of a bitch.”  Trump may be a son of a bitch, but he's our son of a bitch"? The next two years WILL be interesting.

[roamer_1]

It's his shtick. And it always has been and always will be.

He's a chaos con, with a victim chaser... He throws crap absolutely everywhere...
And when he gets called on it and somebody throws crap back at him
he points and wails at how mean they are.

It's what he does, nearly to the point of being a one trick pony. I don't think that will ever change, and don't know why anyone thinks it would.

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia he's talked about draining the swamp numerous times, nothing that I haven't heard him talk about before.  He didn't drain it and that corruption bit him BIGLY.  Yes, he was a victim.

@libertybele

Trump is the target of the corruption because he tried to drain them.   Name one, just one month before or after his inauguratiion that Trump wasn't under very public investigation approved by both sides of the aisle.  Short of killing him, this strategy is the most effective way to contain and stop him.

I'm really not looking to relitigate anything, I know you've announced you're "done with Trump" so disussion would be futile.  ----  I only stopped by to let you know Trump wasn't talking about the fraud in the 2020 election as your original post suggested.

[LMAO]

Pompeo is absolutely correct.  Trump needs to quit crying that he's a victim. No different than Hillary carrying on after she lost.

This is were I’m sympathetic to Trump on this. He isn’t wrong when you put together the “very fine people” hoax, the “collusion with Putin” hoax, and squashing the Hunter Biden story to help Joe Biden, and the questionable impeachments

But, in the unlikely event he becomes president, his grudges would come with him.

[libertybele]

It's his shtick. And it always has been and always will be.

He's a chaos con, with a victim chaser... He throws crap absolutely everywhere...
And when he gets called on it and somebody throws crap back at him
he points and wails at how mean they are.

It's what he does, nearly to the point of being a one trick pony. I don't think that will ever change, and don't know why anyone thinks it would.

There's a lot of truth to what you say.  I still proclaim that he was a good president. Lately though, he's done more harm than good. As I previously stated, him going after conservatives will once again split the voting base and in doing so, he'll hand the DEMS the WH.  With amnesty and cheating, there's not a chance of the GOP winning anyways. So let him continue to whine. It's not going to do a darn bit of good. It will make him feel better and keep his base revved up, but that's about it. 

[libertybele]

This is were I’m sympathetic to Trump on this. He isn’t wrong when you put together the “very fine people” hoax, the “collusion with Putin” hoax, and squashing the Hunter Biden story to help Joe Biden, and the questionable impeachments

But, in the unlikely event he becomes president, his grudges would come with him.

I agree with you.  At this point though, I am very doubtful we'll see another GOP seated.  The DEMS have the steal and their game down pat.  They will transform this country now at warp speed and the Great Reset will take place just as they planned.  It is obvious that they aren't going to give up their power, so, other than a full blown revolution taking place,I don't see things changing.

[LMAO]

There's a lot of truth to what you say.  I still proclaim that he was a good president. Lately though, he's done more harm than good. As I previously stated, him going after conservatives will once again split the voting base and in doing so, he'll hand the DEMS the WH.  With amnesty and cheating, there's not a chance of the GOP winning anyways. So let him continue to whine. It's not going to do a darn bit of good. It will make him feel better and keep his base revved up, but that's about it.

We will see another GOP president. We’re going to have to play the game on equal terms with the Dems.

Until the laws are changed, ballot harvesting and early voting must become part of the GOP’s arsenal

[LMAO]

Didn’t Pence recently claim he felt victimized by Trump?

[BellyAche]

It's often the case that the "victimizer" claims to be the "victim."  Trump can easily be the victimizer and has a long history of doing this as a CEO before he got into politics. There is a long list of grievances in his dealings that any lawyer can hang their hat on and for democrats to use against him. If there's a notion that many are trying to destroy his character, I think that it's the accumulation of questionable behavior (past and recent) that's "come to roost." No one is without failings and Trump's bellicosity has served a purpose to galvanize many hard working people who found a voice with him. That type of leadership can wear thin in the the end, particularly against calmer, more thoughtful Republicans. In the end a person's personality is a very subjective thing to judge. I personally do not like Trump, but found uses for him. Other's may see him as THE figure of the party to discombobulate the political order. That's fine. But only carrying a big stick is not the way to lead in my view. Trump carries that stick with a vengeance I think.  And so it goes....

[aligncare]

@BellyAche

You can’t substantiate that with any legitimacy.  He ran a large organization with all the typical problems that CEO’s face in our over regulated businesses, such as grievance and nuisance lawsuits and reorganization and bankruptcy, when business environments go south, such as happened with the casinos in Atlantic City.

But in fact, Trump had a very good record.  His employees liked him and had very few employee grievance lawsuits.

[catfish1957]

Can't believe a week after the midterm elections, we are already seeing tid bits of 2024 primary strategy.  Pompeo goes on attack.

I am loving DeSantis' approach, which is  basically ignoring Trump's insults.

[Bigun]

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[BellyAche]

All disgruntled employees?

https://theweek.com/articles/783976/brief-history-trumps-smalltime-swindles

[libertybele]

Can't believe a week after the midterm elections, we are already seeing tid bits of 2024 primary strategy.  Pompeo goes on attack.

I am loving DeSantis' approach, which is  basically ignoring Trump's insults.

DeSantis did respond by saying that the focus needs to be on the GOP winning GA.  If I recall, DeSantis is hoping for a FL, GA alliance.

[BellyAche]

Just for "fun"...

https://crushthelsatexam.com/deep-dive-donald-trumps-long-history-of-lawsuits/

[aligncare]

Just for "fun"...

https://crushthelsatexam.com/deep-dive-donald-trumps-long-history-of-lawsuits/

Great.  Now do Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Jack Welch, or any other randomly selected successful CEO.  You will find similar checkered histories.

You don’t get to be wildly successful unless you’ve done battle in the business arena.

[Free Vulcan]

I got nothing against Trump. In some ways he was the right man at the right time, and overall he did a good job with the Presidency.

But the guy is still doing the same old schtick he was in '16. Alot has happened and the world has moved on.

He needs to update his approach to be a viable candidate, mainly to put aside the grudges, slights, defensiveness, the loyalty bs, and the past to focus on what is happening now, and coming forth with solutions.