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Are Republican Voters Done With Trump?
« on: November 11, 2022, 11:31:40 pm »
Are Republican Voters Done With Trump?
By Brandon Morse | 5:31 PM on November 11, 2022

It’s a question worth asking.

Donald Trump’s popularity has definitely taken a hit after the midterms thanks to a lackluster return on candidates he endorsed. His subsequent attacks on Ron DeSantis and Glenn Youngkin didn’t help either, but does that mean the GOP is done with him?

Let’s look at some facts and arguments for and against.

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Re: Are Republican Voters Done With Trump?
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2022, 11:49:21 pm »
I think it is fair to ask if DJT is done with Republican voters. His apparently unprovoked internecine sniping at two popular Republican governors is alienating swaths of his needed base. Why?
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Re: Are Republican Voters Done With Trump?
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2022, 11:57:00 pm »
Quote from: Lando Lincoln on November 11, 2022, 11:49:21 pm
I think it is fair to ask if DJT is done with Republican voters. His apparently unprovoked internecine sniping at two popular Republican governors is alienating swaths of his needed base. Why?
I think that Trump is simply trying to take DeSantis and Youngkin out pre-emptively with his snide comments, reminiscent of 2016, and deter them and anyone else in the Republican Party from running against him in the primaries in 2024, to ensure his coronation.  Trump is not very complicated and, despite popular belief among his most zealous supporters, is incapable of playing 3-D chess, or even checkers.
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Re: Are Republican Voters Done With Trump?
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2022, 12:21:39 am »
Quote from: Lando Lincoln on November 11, 2022, 11:49:21 pm
I think it is fair to ask if DJT is done with Republican voters. His apparently unprovoked internecine sniping at two popular Republican governors is alienating swaths of his needed base. Why?

Why is he going after them right after the mid terms??  You are correct, certainly he realizes their popularity.  As someone who has profoundly preached patriotism and MAGA, he  is acting in opposition by taunting two popular conservative governors which is troubling.

What he is doing truly makes no sense other than he's so threatened by their success he's acting act. 

Trump hasn't even announced he's running and maybe he knows that his odds of being the nominee just got a lot lower.  He's no longer in the limelight unless he continues doing rallies. Whereas DeSantis and Youngkin will continue to be in the news; be it for their accomplishments and going up against the status quo.
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Re: Are Republican Voters Done With Trump?
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2022, 06:52:17 am »
Trump is self destructing, and his negative rhetoric may just well spur DeSantis to challenge Trump.  I believe DeSantis will kick his butt.  People are tired of Trump's obnoxious, caustic temperment to everyone in his path.  His comments on DeSantis were the end of his political career.
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Re: Are Republican Voters Done With Trump?
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2022, 07:25:13 am »
Quote from: jafo2010 on November 12, 2022, 06:52:17 am
Trump is self destructing, and his negative rhetoric may just well spur DeSantis to challenge Trump.  I believe DeSantis will kick his butt.

Trump won't get the backing of the GOP Establishment that he got in 2016.
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Re: Are Republican Voters Done With Trump?
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2022, 09:14:39 am »
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Trump won't get the backing of the GOP Establishment that he got in 2016.

Another reason to respect and trust him.
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Re: Are Republican Voters Done With Trump?
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2022, 09:22:28 am »
Quote from: jafo2010 on November 12, 2022, 06:52:17 am
Trump is self destructing, and his negative rhetoric may just well spur DeSantis to challenge Trump.  I believe DeSantis will kick his butt.  People are tired of Trump's obnoxious, caustic temperament to everyone in his path.  His comments on DeSantis were the end of his political career.
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I tire of every GOP candidate having to kiss Trumps ... errr... Ring. It is like they feel they have to do some sorta ritual dance to get elected... I want campaigns on issues, not how much more Mega they are over their opponents. This populism game instead hanging your hat on conservative (and Christian) values (the rock and it include more than just a balance budget...).
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Re: Are Republican Voters Done With Trump?
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2022, 11:16:56 am »
Quote from: Sighlass on November 12, 2022, 09:22:28 am
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I tire of every GOP candidate having to kiss Trumps ... errr... Ring. It is like they feel they have to do some sorta ritual dance to get elected... I want campaigns on issues, not how much more Mega they are over their opponents. This populism game instead hanging your hat on conservative (and Christian) values (the rock and it include more than just a balance budget...).

That's right.
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Re: Are Republican Voters Done With Trump?
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2022, 03:56:49 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on November 12, 2022, 09:14:39 am
Another reason to respect and trust him.

Joe Biden doesn't get the backing of the GOP Establishment either.  Is that a reason to respect and trust him?

Logic definitely is not your strong suit.
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Re: Are Republican Voters Done With Trump?
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2022, 04:35:01 pm »
Quote from: Timber Rattler on November 11, 2022, 11:57:00 pm
I think that Trump is simply trying to take DeSantis and Youngkin out pre-emptively with his snide comments, reminiscent of 2016, and deter them and anyone else in the Republican Party from running against him in the primaries in 2024, to ensure his coronation.  Trump is not very complicated and, despite popular belief among his most zealous supporters, is incapable of playing 3-D chess, or even checkers.

I truly think Trump believes he is entitled the '24 nomination, and thinks he doesn't have to earn it.

Slapping the likes of Youngkin and DeSantis this early in the process is going to backfire (IMO)
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Re: Are Republican Voters Done With Trump?
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2022, 04:55:31 pm »
Republicans swallowing the bait in trending media about President Trump should consider what’s happening here.  Attacks on Trump (by the usual suspects), are really attacks on the message, Make America Great Again.  They hate that idea, and Trump—as flawed as he is, is the guy who brought that idea back on the table in a big way.  It’s now part of our national conversation, whereas before Trump it was just a fond memory of the Reagan years.
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Re: Are Republican Voters Done With Trump?
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2022, 04:58:04 pm »
Quote from: Timber Rattler on November 11, 2022, 11:57:00 pm
I think that Trump is simply trying to take DeSantis and Youngkin out pre-emptively with his snide comments, reminiscent of 2016, and deter them and anyone else in the Republican Party from running against him in the primaries in 2024, to ensure his coronation.  Trump is not very complicated and, despite popular belief among his most zealous supporters, is incapable of playing 3-D chess, or even checkers.

I agree with this. Torch his competition now and hope for a return of voters once he is last man standing. Simple.
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Re: Are Republican Voters Done With Trump?
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2022, 04:59:05 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on November 12, 2022, 04:55:31 pm
Republicans swallowing the bait in trending media about President Trump should consider what’s happening here.  Attacks on Trump (by the usual suspects), are really attacks on the message, Make America Great Again.  They hate that idea, and Trump—as flawed as he is, is the guy who brought that idea back on the table in a big way.  It’s now part of our national conversation, whereas before Trump it was just a fond memory of the Reagan years.

A stolen slogan does not a Reagan make.
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Re: Are Republican Voters Done With Trump?
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2022, 05:00:41 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on November 12, 2022, 04:55:31 pm
Republicans swallowing the bait in trending media about President Trump should consider what’s happening here.  Attacks on Trump (by the usual suspects), are really attacks on the message, Make America Great Again.  They hate that idea, and Trump—as flawed as he is, is the guy who brought that idea back on the table in a big way.  It’s now part of our national conversation, whereas before Trump it was just a fond memory of the Reagan years.

I'll agree with every word of that @aligncare but none of that excuses his unnecessary and unhelpful behavior of late.
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Re: Are Republican Voters Done With Trump?
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2022, 05:05:53 pm »
Who thinks DJT will wait until after the Georgia runoff to announce his candidacy?

I don’t.
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Re: Are Republican Voters Done With Trump?
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2022, 05:24:43 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on November 12, 2022, 04:55:31 pm
Attacks on Trump (by the usual suspects), are really attacks on the message, Make America Great Again.  They hate that idea, and Trump—as flawed as he is, is the guy who brought that idea back on the table in a big way.

Amassing almost $7 trillion in new debt in only four years is not making America great again.
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Re: Are Republican Voters Done With Trump?
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2022, 05:26:07 pm »
Quote from: Lando Lincoln on November 12, 2022, 05:05:53 pm
Who thinks DJT will wait until after the Georgia runoff to announce his candidacy?

That would depend on whether or not Trump cares if Democrats control the Senate.
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Re: Are Republican Voters Done With Trump?
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2022, 11:43:57 pm »
Voters in general are done with Trump
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Re: Are Republican Voters Done With Trump?
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2022, 12:12:18 am »
Quote from: LMAO on November 12, 2022, 11:43:57 pm
Voters in general are done with Trump

Anyone with half a brain is done with Trump. He is last years news. He is so 2016.  His legacy will be, Would have, Could have, Should have STFU.
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« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2022, 01:00:38 am »
Quote from: libertybele on November 12, 2022, 12:21:39 am
Why is he going after them right after the mid terms??  You are correct, certainly he realizes their popularity.

The last thing the GOP needs is an 18 month primary with Donald Trump bashing conservatives and promoting BS from QAnon and the National Enquirer. 
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« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2022, 01:02:25 am »
Quote from: Sighlass on November 12, 2022, 09:22:28 am
I tire of every GOP candidate having to kiss Trumps ... errr... Ring. It is like they feel they have to do some sorta ritual dance to get elected.

Indeed, and it has driven many potential first tier candidates away. 
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« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2022, 01:08:17 am »
Quote from: cato potatoe on November 13, 2022, 01:00:38 am
The last thing the GOP needs is an 18 month primary with Donald Trump bashing conservatives and promoting BS from QAnon and the National Enquirer.

If Trump has a thumb left on his cold dead hand.....bet on it happening. 
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Re: Are Republican Voters Done With Trump?
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2022, 01:10:57 am »
Quote from: cato potatoe on November 13, 2022, 01:00:38 am
The last thing the GOP needs is an 18 month primary with Donald Trump bashing conservatives and promoting BS from QAnon and the National Enquirer.

Absolutely true. That woul only prove to divide the party even further with the possibility of Trump destroying some good candidates along the way. We definitely don't need another repeat of '16 election.
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