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« on: November 08, 2022, 07:58:34 pm »
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What is wrong with page 38?

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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2022, 06:31:05 am »
One hundred views and nobody has commented. 

This is not surprising as roughly 10,000,000 Nat Geo members missed it as well and only one sent a letter to Headquarters to point out the very rare mistake this world-famous publisher made.  Still NG refused to print the letter and acknowledge their egregious error.
Will anybody at GOPBR catch it?  Not likely.
Once I point it out to you, it will be obvious, but until then........

[How is this possible, "subtle but obvious after you know it"?  Science is that way. You don't know it until you do.]
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2022, 01:43:14 pm »
Is this the infamous 'Page 38' you are referring to?

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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2022, 01:47:52 pm »
@DeerSlayer - Is it the homonym error?
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2022, 02:30:01 pm »
Is this the infamous 'Page 38' you are referring to?




That is the only page shown in the website, so it must be page 38.
I featured the cover of Nat Geo so everything could be verified.  Nothing is touched up or changed in the slightest.  I am unaware of any "homonym error."

Ten million missed it. You have one chance in 10,000,000 of catching it, I say.
Once I point it out, you can slap your forehead and exclaim "D'oh!"
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2022, 02:37:25 pm »
So the error is in the pictures themselves?
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2022, 02:48:57 pm »
So the error is in the pictures themselves?


The error is in the picture.  Just one.  Not easy, is it.
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2022, 02:50:12 pm »
The shadows don't look right in the bottom picture.  And that one column towards the left looks like someone melted plastic.
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2022, 02:52:55 pm »
Lower right corner.  That orange cigar-looking thing is a reflection of something.  You can see through it.
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2022, 03:33:40 pm »
The picture on the bottom is upside-down.

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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2022, 03:40:10 pm »
The picture on the bottom is upside-down.

I flipped it over, but couldn't tell either way.  But as it, it certainly looks like there are more stalagmites than stalagtites.
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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2022, 03:43:00 pm »
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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2022, 03:45:05 pm »
https://natgeo1991exposed.blogspot.com/

That's what it looked like to me.  The "wedding cake" (that's what I call it) feature in the center of the picture does not make sense in the configuration published by the Nat. Geo.  It only makes sense if one turns the picture around 180 degrees.

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« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2022, 03:45:06 pm »
Check out the brain on @Kamaji
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« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2022, 03:57:43 pm »
We're having fun now!

Okay, team, next brain teaser/IQ test.

Old English Riddle

As I was going to St. Ives
I met a man with seven wives.
Each wife had seven sacks,
Each sack had seven cats,
Each cat had seven kits.
Kits, cats, sacks, wives,
How many were going to St. Ives?
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« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2022, 04:13:37 pm »
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« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2022, 04:18:41 pm »
Here's one for you, @DeerSlayer

There is a house with three upstairs bedrooms.  Each has a ceiling fixture with a 100W bulb.  The wall switches for these three lights are located in the basement.  But none of the three are marked.

Your job is to determine which switch goes to which light.  You can flip the switches however you like.  But you only have one chance to go upstairs to check the status of the lights.  How do you correctly match each switch with each light?
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« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2022, 04:24:38 pm »
We're having fun now!

Okay, team, next brain teaser/IQ test.

Old English Riddle

As I was going to St. Ives
I met a man with seven wives.
Each wife had seven sacks,
Each sack had seven cats,
Each cat had seven kits.
Kits, cats, sacks, wives,
How many were going to St. Ives?

Neither kits, cats, sacks, nor wives were going to St. Ives.  Only one person - the narrator - was definitely going to St. Ives.

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« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2022, 05:03:45 pm »
Here's one for you, @DeerSlayer

There is a house with three upstairs bedrooms.  Each has a ceiling fixture with a 100W bulb.  The wall switches for these three lights are located in the basement.  But none of the three are marked.

Your job is to determine which switch goes to which light.  You can flip the switches however you like.  But you only have one chance to go upstairs to check the status of the lights.  How do you correctly match each switch with each light?

You talkin' ta me? Are YOU talkin' ta me !!!
Way easy.  Turn Switch 1 on and leave it on.  Turn Switch 2 on for five minutes, clean up around the basement and turn Switch 2 off and run upstairs.
Light 1 is on. Light 2 is hot.  Light 3 is not.
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« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2022, 05:11:36 pm »
Neither kits, cats, sacks, nor wives were going to St. Ives.  Only one person - the narrator - was definitely going to St. Ives.

You are correct but you are wrong.
The riddle does not ask if the riddler was going to St. Ives.
It asks:  "Kits, cats, sacks, wives, How many (of those!) were going to St. Ives?"

I was cruising from Ft. Lauderdale to Los Angeles in 2013 when I pondered this lovely riddle and posed it to my poker buddies.  They all agreed with my analysis.
The reflexive "how many" refers to the immediately precedent subject.

Going through Panama, I won a big pot at six card hi/low Monte with a club wheel, ace through five, both ways.
Declare before showing.  One chip in your hand for low, two in your hand for high, three for both ways.  You have to win both ways or you lose.

__________________________

The Overcrowded Prison

A prison was overcrowded, and the warden decided to release a prisoner by giving a test.
He had three prisoners brought to his office and explained his proposition.

"The guard behind you has a duffel bag with  5 hats in it.  Three are black and two are red.
He will place one hat on each of you from behind you.  If you can tell me the color of your hat, you will be released to go home.  But you must agree not to guess and if you guess wrong, you understand you will be shot immediately.  Agreed?" 
[No lose proposition.  All agree.  Hats are placed on the three.]
First prisoner looks at other two:  "I don't know."
Second prisoner looks at other two:  "I don't know."
Third prisoner is blind: "I know."

Does he or doesn't he?  Explain or you will be shot.
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« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2022, 05:13:37 pm »
You are correct but you are wrong.
The riddle does not ask if the riddler was going to St. Ives.
It asks:  "Kits, cats, sacks, wives, How many (of those!) were going to St. Ives?"

I was cruising from Ft. Lauderdale to Los Angeles in 2013 when I pondered this lovely riddle and posed it to my poker buddies.  They all agreed with my analysis.
The reflexive "how many" refers to the precedent subject.

Going through Panama, I won a big pot at six card hi/low Monte with a club wheel, ace through five, both ways.
Declare before showing.  One chip in your hand for low, two in your hand for high, three for both ways.  You have to win both ways or you lose.

It's correct that the riddle didn't ask about the narrator, only about the Kits, cats, sacks, wives; I answered that in the first clause of my answer, and then threw in the second clause as commentary, not additional answer.

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« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2022, 05:28:07 pm »
It's correct that the riddle didn't ask about the narrator, only about the Kits, cats, sacks, wives; I answered that in the first clause of my answer, and then threw in the second clause as commentary, not additional answer.

That was not clear.  I axed for an answer, not commentary.  This is a lotta work, yanno?
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« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2022, 06:16:58 pm »
Neither kits, cats, sacks, nor wives were going to St. Ives.  Only one person - the narrator - was definitely going to St. Ives.
We all learned that answer to the riddle when Zeus kept John McClane from giving the wrong answer in Die Hard with a Vengeance :silly:

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« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2022, 07:25:51 pm »
We all learned that answer to the riddle when Zeus kept John McClane from giving the wrong answer in Die Hard with a Vengeance :silly:

I must have missed that part.  What about the blind prisoner?
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« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2022, 09:15:57 pm »
Science IQ Test Number Four

Will a container of pure, distilled water freeze into solid ice at exactly zero degrees Celsius and standard pressure (760 Torr)?
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« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2022, 10:02:50 pm »
__________________________

The Overcrowded Prison

A prison was overcrowded, and the warden decided to release a prisoner by giving a test.
He had three prisoners brought to his office and explained his proposition.

"The guard behind you has a duffel bag with  5 hats in it.  Three are black and two are red.
He will place one hat on each of you from behind you.  If you can tell me the color of your hat, you will be released to go home.  But you must agree not to guess and if you guess wrong, you understand you will be shot immediately.  Agreed?" 
[No lose proposition.  All agree.  Hats are placed on the three.]
First prisoner looks at other two:  "I don't know."
Second prisoner looks at other two:  "I don't know."
Third prisoner is blind: "I know."

Does he or doesn't he?  Explain or you will be shot.

First Prisoner:  The only way he could know the color of his own hat is if Prisoner 2 and Prisoner 3 were both wearing red.  Since he didn't know, then either Prisoner 2 or Prisoner 3 (or both) was wearing a black hat.

Second Prisoner:  Realizing that either he or Prisoner 3 must be wearing a black hat, if he sees a red hat on Prisoner 3, then he knows he must have a black hat on.  Since he doesn't know, then Prisoner 3 can't be wearing a red hat.

Third Prisoner:  Without seeing the hats of Prisoners 1 and 2, he knows he has on a black hat.
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« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2022, 10:05:19 pm »
Science IQ Test Number Four

Will a container of pure, distilled water freeze into solid ice at exactly zero degrees Celsius and standard pressure (760 Torr)?

No.  It will remain liquid water at 0°C and 1 atm.
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« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2022, 09:46:40 am »
No.  It will remain liquid water at 0°C and 1 atm.

Hoodat so smart he got everthang ko-rect.
In the same way, a container of ice will remain ice at 0 degrees. In my first chemistry class in high school, I wondered how water can freeze at 0 while ice melts at 0.
That may be the defined freezing point, but if you look at a graph of the triple point, you see lines where two phases are at perfect equilibrium and at that one point, all three phases.
Steam isn't always hot.  At extremely low pressure it can be colder than your freezer.

http://Water-Wow.blogspot.com

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« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2022, 02:27:12 pm »
Science IQ Test #5

Why shouldn't you wear sunglasses while playing tennis, or paddleball?

P.S.  This board is on a weird time zone I tell you.  It's like Greenwich Mean Time.
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« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2022, 02:10:01 pm »
Science IQ Test #5

Why shouldn't you wear sunglasses while playing tennis, or paddleball?


Nobody knows?    I posed this question last year to my late good tennis buddy, Dr. Ken, who was an eye surgeon.  He replied, "I don't see any reason why sunglasses would do that."
But a retired air force pilot told me it was the case.
I said to the eye surgeon, "Let's think about this.  Sunglasses cause your pupils to dilate.
This reduces the depth of field (span of feet, front to back, where everything is in focus) in your eyes."

That is the definition of depth perception being reduced.  Dr. Ken had to agree with me because it is so obvious.

Now you know.
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« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2022, 04:13:28 pm »
So if you drop acid before playing tennis, your depth perception won't be as good?
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« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2022, 04:29:16 pm »
So if you drop acid before playing tennis, your depth perception won't be as good?

Maybe not. But you won't care. You'll see wonderful traces following the ball.

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« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2022, 05:24:50 pm »
So if you drop acid before playing tennis, your depth perception won't be as good?

How do you make the transition from being so smart to the opposite in just days?
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« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2022, 05:39:17 pm »
Science IQ Test #5

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« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2022, 07:07:27 pm »
How do you make the transition from being so smart to the opposite in just days?

It's a gift.
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« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2022, 07:24:49 pm »
Andy, Bill, Chuck, and Dwight hold the professions of aviator, builder, cashier, and doctor, but not necessarily in that order.  Only the cashier tells the truth.  The other three professions always lie.

Here are three statements.  Use these to determine each person's profession:

Andy:  Bill is the cashier
Bill:  Chuck is not the doctor
Chuck:  Andy is the builder
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« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2022, 08:04:33 pm »
Andy is the aviator
Bill is the builder
Chuck is the doctor
Dwight is the cashier

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« Reply #37 on: November 13, 2022, 08:10:56 pm »
Andy, Bill, Chuck, and Dwight hold the professions of aviator, builder, cashier, and doctor, but not necessarily in that order.  Only the cashier tells the truth.  The other three professions always lie.

Here are three statements.  Use these to determine each person's profession:

Andy:  Bill is the cashier
Bill:  Chuck is not the doctor
Chuck:  Andy is the builder

Andy is the Aviator.
Bill is the Builder.
Chuck is the Doctor.
Dwight is the Cashier.

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« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2022, 08:11:32 pm »
Andy is the aviator
Bill is the builder
Chuck is the doctor
Dwight is the cashier

Yep.

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« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2022, 08:22:41 pm »
Andy has to be lying because he'd have to be the cashier to be telling the truth.
Therefore Bill cannot be the cashier and what Bill says is a lie. Therefore Chuck has to be the doctor and is also lying.
Therefore Andy is not the builder, the doctor or the cashier leaving only the Aviator.
Bill has to be the builder because he is not the cashier, doctor or aviator.
With Andy, Bill and Chuck proven as liars only Dwight is left to be the cashier.
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« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2022, 03:04:53 pm »
Science IQ Test #6

How much ice at 0 degrees Celsius will be required to cool one pound of gold at 100 degrees Celsius, just melting all of the ice so that both are at 0 degrees?

No calculations, please.  Guess.

(It is a wild and crezzy answer from a wild and crezzy guy.)
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« Reply #41 on: November 15, 2022, 03:14:35 pm »
Off the top of my head, 80 cal per gram of ice, and approx 6°C of average metal per calorie, I would say each unit of ice can bring down 5 units of metal by 100 °C.  So around one-fifth lb of ice. or 0.44 kg.  But gold may not be your average metal.
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« Reply #42 on: November 15, 2022, 03:47:45 pm »
Reasonable estimate. Not even close.  I doubt that anybody else can do better.
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« Reply #43 on: November 15, 2022, 04:03:27 pm »
You're right.  I was way off.
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« Reply #44 on: November 15, 2022, 04:35:33 pm »
Science IQ Test #6

How much ice at 0 degrees Celsius will be required to cool one pound of gold at 100 degrees Celsius, just melting all of the ice so that both are at 0 degrees?

No calculations, please.  Guess.

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Infinity.

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« Reply #45 on: November 15, 2022, 04:37:53 pm »
Science IQ Test #6

How much ice at 0 degrees Celsius will be required to cool one pound of gold at 100 degrees Celsius, just melting all of the ice so that both are at 0 degrees?

No calculations, please.  Guess.

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None. Zero. Just stick it in a box and set it out on the step for a while. (current outdoor ambient temp is 12 above)
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« Reply #46 on: November 15, 2022, 04:54:44 pm »
None. Zero. Just stick it in a box and set it out on the step for a while. (current outdoor ambient temp is 12 above)

I don't think he's after the practical answer...

Any energy added to any volume of exactly 0 C water will raise the temperature above 0 C and melt it. Using an infinite amount of water ice at 0 C will melt it but will be 1/infinity close to 0 C.

That's the theory I'm going with...

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« Reply #47 on: November 15, 2022, 05:16:47 pm »
I don't think he's after the practical answer...

Any energy added to any volume of exactly 0 C water will raise the temperature above 0 C and melt it. Using an infinite amount of water ice at 0 C will melt it but will be 1/infinity close to 0 C.

That's the theory I'm going with...

The poster is using for heat of fusion for water.  The transition from one gram of ice at 0°C to one gram of water at 0°C releases 80 calories of heat (or 334 joules).  So you need to know roughly how much heat is needed to raise the temperature of one gram of gold by 100°C (which is where my guess of 16 cal fell apart).
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« Reply #48 on: November 15, 2022, 07:29:49 pm »
The poster is using for heat of fusion for water.  The transition from one gram of ice at 0°C to one gram of water at 0°C releases 80 calories of heat (or 334 joules).  So you need to know roughly how much heat is needed to raise the temperature of one gram of gold by 100°C (which is where my guess of 16 cal fell apart).

Hoodat, Hoodat, Hoodat, what we gonna do wid choo? 

Ice melting to water ABSORBS 80 calories per gram, it doesn't "release" it.  Confusing words is easy when you know what you mean but misspeak.

Water holds 33 times as much heat as an equivalent weight of gold, and then multiply that by 80 for the heat of fusion. 

The answer is 0.617 ounces of ice.
 
Water has a heat capacity of 4.18 J/g C degree
Gold has a heat capacity of 0.129 J/g C degree
The heat of fusion of water is 80 times the heat capacity of water, so one gram of gold will cool down 100 degrees C with the loss of 12.9 Joules.  Ice will melt absorbing 4.18 J x 80 per gram or  334.4 J without changing temperature!
The ratio of 12.9 to 334.4 or .038576 will apply to any respective quantity of gold cooling 100 C and ice just melting without even changing temperature.  So a pound of gold at 100 C requires .038576 pound of ice at 0 to cool it.   .038576 of 16 ounces is 0.617 ounces of ice.

[Your estimate of .16 specific heat for gold was really good!  Only off by a factor of 2.]
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« Reply #49 on: November 15, 2022, 07:39:49 pm »
Science IQ Test #7

How many ounces of steam at 100 degrees Celsius will heat up one pound of gold at 0 degrees Celsius, just condensing all the steam so that both are at 100 degrees Celsius?

The previous solution will guide you to a very close estimate!  Both answers are surprising and informative.  They show why our Brilliant Creator gave water its unusual properties, because we are 90% water, and it keeps us from freezing or dying of heat prostration easily.  Very cool.
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