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Re: November 8th Election Thread
« Reply #75 on: November 15, 2022, 07:00:30 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on November 15, 2022, 06:51:20 pm
More likely, a great opportunity for Ducey to stab us in the back again.  And a recount will probably show an even greater gap between Lake and Hobbs as we more to a new level of cheating.

That's where the state could jump in and take over the recount to investigate.

But I guarantee you he won't do it.
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Re: November 8th Election Thread
« Reply #76 on: November 15, 2022, 10:01:26 pm »
Quote from: HikerGuy83 on November 15, 2022, 05:49:56 pm
If there was cheating, it really helps that DJT is flapping his gums about it. 

He's presented no real evidence and people see it as his MO. 

Consequently, any real cheating that might have taken place is a lot harder to highlite.

I've not seen anything that says there was cheating. 

But if it exists, DJT is hurting the ability of anyone to get it out in context.

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Re: November 8th Election Thread
« Reply #77 on: November 15, 2022, 10:57:17 pm »
johnny maga
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Donald Trump is a private citizen. He spent $4 million helping Blake Masters in the AZ Senate race

Mitch McConell, the Senate Slumlord, spent $0

Tell me again how Trump is the problem


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Re: November 8th Election Thread
« Reply #78 on: November 15, 2022, 11:09:46 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on November 15, 2022, 05:05:49 pm
I'm still trying to figure out why it's to our advantage to ignore the cheating.   :shrug:

IMO, this is an excellent question @Cyber Liberty   Once you understand the 'our' in "our advantge" doesn't include us, it all becomes clear.

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Re: November 8th Election Thread
« Reply #79 on: November 15, 2022, 11:17:56 pm »
"The Republican apparatus always intended to underdeliver, shooting themselves in the foot was the only way they could get Trump—they think...'  (Video)


https://mobile.twitter.com/anneluty/status/1592357232515354626
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Re: November 8th Election Thread
« Reply #80 on: November 16, 2022, 12:18:55 am »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on November 15, 2022, 06:04:59 pm
I've read one AZ county has 17% that are registered as Democrat but 53% of the vote went for Katie Hobbs?

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4108877/posts

This is the only thing I could find on your statement. 

I don't understand what they are trying to say.

Republicans received 52 % of the vote ? 

Really.....and lost ?
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Re: November 8th Election Thread
« Reply #81 on: November 16, 2022, 12:27:10 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on November 15, 2022, 10:57:17 pm
johnny maga
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Donald Trump is a private citizen. He spent $4 million helping Blake Masters in the AZ Senate race

Mitch McConell, the Senate Slumlord, spent $0

Tell me again how Trump is the problem


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Let's be clear.....Mitch needs to go.....too.
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Re: November 8th Election Thread
« Reply #82 on: November 16, 2022, 12:34:13 am »
Lake still has not coneeded. 
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Re: November 8th Election Thread
« Reply #83 on: November 16, 2022, 12:36:54 am »
Neither has Hobbs.
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Re: November 8th Election Thread
« Reply #84 on: November 16, 2022, 02:14:48 am »
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Re: November 8th Election Thread
« Reply #85 on: November 16, 2022, 02:22:36 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on November 15, 2022, 10:57:17 pm
johnny maga
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Donald Trump is a private citizen. He spent $4 million helping Blake Masters in the AZ Senate race

Mitch McConell, the Senate Slumlord, spent $0

Tell me again how Trump is the problem


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Yeah but didn't BM say he would vote against MM for Majority Leader? Same for Don Bolduc. Two dummies who spoke out against the guy they wanted money from.
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Re: November 8th Election Thread
« Reply #86 on: November 16, 2022, 02:26:10 am »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on November 16, 2022, 02:22:36 am
Yeah but didn't BM say he would vote against MM for Majority Leader? Same for Don Bolduc. Two dummies who spoke out against the guy they wanted money from.

It's PAC money, not McConnell's personal stash.  The people donating to that PAC did so to help get Republicans elected to the Senate.  McConnell treated other people's money as his own personal stash.  Come to think of it, he does the same thing with our tax dollars.
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Re: November 8th Election Thread
« Reply #87 on: November 16, 2022, 02:33:34 am »
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Re: November 8th Election Thread
« Reply #88 on: November 16, 2022, 02:48:09 am »
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Katie Hobbs will certify her own corrupt election.

Think about that, America.
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Re: November 8th Election Thread
« Reply #89 on: November 16, 2022, 04:39:01 am »
Quote from: mystery-ak on November 16, 2022, 02:48:09 am
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Katie Hobbs will certify her own corrupt election.

Think about that, America.

Remind me again why we are calling it corrupt.

What do we know for sure.
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Re: November 8th Election Thread
« Reply #90 on: November 16, 2022, 02:36:56 pm »
Quote from: HikerGuy83 on November 16, 2022, 04:39:01 am
Remind me again why we are calling it corrupt.

What do we know for sure.

We know with 100% certainty that it was corrupt just like it was in 2020. But YOU can never see what you refuse to look for.
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Re: November 8th Election Thread
« Reply #91 on: November 16, 2022, 02:44:31 pm »
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Re: November 8th Election Thread
« Reply #92 on: November 16, 2022, 07:11:22 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on November 16, 2022, 02:36:56 pm
We know with 100% certainty that it was corrupt just like it was in 2020.

Yes, the internet is crawling with pro.....oh, wait.
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Re: November 8th Election Thread
« Reply #93 on: November 16, 2022, 07:14:55 pm »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on November 16, 2022, 02:22:36 am
Yeah but didn't BM say he would vote against MM for Majority Leader? Same for Don Bolduc. Two dummies who spoke out against the guy they wanted money from.

Two democratic senators, democratic governor, and a democratic SOS......

First time since 1950.

But it can't be the fact that the AZ GOP is a frigging mess and that the messages (Lake was very good on the issues) can't get above the din of the election BS.

Add to that, the lingering presence of DJT (who just announced his 2024 candidacy) and you got what they asked for.

A slaughter.

Just leaning of many I know who voted for Hobbs after voting for Trump twice.
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Re: November 8th Election Thread
« Reply #94 on: November 17, 2022, 10:11:05 am »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on November 15, 2022, 11:31:29 am
So tired of this constant idiotic conspiratorial thinking all it does is suppress turnout.

How so? When you know you need 1.25 to get credit for one, don't you feel compelled to try that much harder? To get enough votes in to overwhelm the cheater's point spread?

Being complacent about the outcome might suppress turnout, but knowing you will need as many votes as you can get would have the opposite effect.

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Re: November 8th Election Thread
« Reply #95 on: November 18, 2022, 01:30:28 am »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on November 17, 2022, 10:11:05 am
How so? When you know you need 1.25 to get credit for one, don't you feel compelled to try that much harder? To get enough votes in to overwhelm the cheater's point spread?

Being complacent about the outcome might suppress turnout, but knowing you will need as many votes as you can get would have the opposite effect.



Instead of just talking about it, Lake appears to be pulling together a team to look for it. 

I think that is great.

If she finds something, it will be an interesting time.

If she does not....what then ?

Do we get to bury it for at least this cycle ?
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Re: November 8th Election Thread
« Reply #96 on: November 18, 2022, 01:33:59 am »
Quote from: HikerGuy83 on November 16, 2022, 07:14:55 pm
Two democratic senators, democratic governor, and a democratic SOS......

At the same time, the GOP flips two house seats.  Go figure.
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Re: November 8th Election Thread
« Reply #97 on: November 18, 2022, 02:37:58 am »
Finchem won't concede. 

I don't think he helps Lake's situation any.

And there are a lot of GOP who are not sympathetic. 

I hope Lake can get this moving fast.

We all need to see what's been looked at and why.
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Re: November 8th Election Thread
« Reply #98 on: November 18, 2022, 02:52:48 am »
https://freebeacon.com/columns/good-riddance-madame-speaker/

The article didn't slam her near hard enough.

So long Nancy.  The only reason I'll miss you is that they might put someone with a brain your place and make our lives harder.

If anyone deserved to buried in stupidville, TN.....it's Nancy Pelosi.
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Re: November 8th Election Thread
« Reply #99 on: November 18, 2022, 02:57:10 am »
@HikerGuy83 https://www.uncoverdc.com/2022/11/10/maricopa-county-election-judge-speaks-out/

Not proof positive, but very strong circumstantial evidence--and definitely cause to question the veracity of totals presented in Maricopa County.
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