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Feds concerned about armed people at Arizona ballot boxes
« on: November 01, 2022, 04:47:29 pm »
Feds concerned about armed people at Arizona ballot boxes

Reports of people watching ballot boxes in Arizona, sometimes armed or wearing ballistic vests, raise serious concerns about voter intimidation, the Justice Department said Monday as it stepped into a lawsuit over the monitoring.

The statement from the Justice Department comes days after a federal judge refused to bar a group from monitoring the outdoor drop boxes in the suburbs of Phoenix.

Threats, intimidation and coercion are illegal under the federal Voting Rights Act, even if they doesn't succeed, the government's attorneys wrote. While lawful poll watching can support transparency, “ballot security forces” present a significant risk of voter intimidation, the court documents state.

“While the First Amendment protects expressive conduct and peaceable assembly generally, it affords no protection for threats of harm directed at voters,” U.S. government attorneys wrote.

The filing runs counter to a judge's order Friday. U.S. District Court Judge Michael Liburdi found the allegations present “serious questions” but it wasn't clear they were a ”true threat" to specific people or groups and barring them could violate the watchers' freedom of speech.

Liburdi is a Trump appointee and a member of the Federalist Society, a conservative legal organization. The Arizona Alliance for Retired Americans is appealing the order in the swing state with several closely contested races this year............

https://www.yahoo.com/news/feds-concerned-armed-people-arizona-200720417.html
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Re: Feds concerned about armed people at Arizona ballot boxes
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2022, 04:55:03 pm »
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Re: Feds concerned about armed people at Arizona ballot boxes
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2022, 05:01:18 pm »
While citizens certainly have the right to peacefully observe and monitor drop boxes, and likely be armed and in camo (assuming the media isn't lying) per the district court, to me it would be strategically smarter to keep it as low key as possible given our current Stasi DOJ enforcers and their antics.

Not to mention the Pravda media looking for things to whip up their screeching Nazi hysteria. Mostly, I really want to catch some real fraud going on, especially in AZ with all the close races, and whip up a firestorm back on them.
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Re: Feds concerned about armed people at Arizona ballot boxes
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2022, 05:58:04 pm »
Really?  They didn't give a tinker's damn back in 2012 when a couple of armed black panthers stood outside of a polling place in PA:


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Re: Feds concerned about armed people at Arizona ballot boxes
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2022, 06:48:51 pm »
Really?  They didn't give a tinker's damn back in 2012 when a couple of armed black panthers stood outside of a polling place in PA:



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Re: Feds concerned about armed people at Arizona ballot boxes
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2022, 08:00:05 pm »
A ballistic vest presents a threat to no one. It is a strictly defensive device.

If people are making unseemly puddles over those, they aren't smart enough to vote.
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Re: Feds concerned about armed people at Arizona ballot boxes
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2022, 08:04:55 pm »
A ballistic vest presents a threat to no one. It is a strictly defensive device.

If people are making unseemly puddles over those, they aren't smart enough to vote.


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Re: Feds concerned about armed people at Arizona ballot boxes
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2022, 08:07:40 pm »
Camera's everywhere in this world and not one picture of "Armed" watchers.  What is this, Paul Pelosi security equipment?
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Re: Feds concerned about armed people at Arizona ballot boxes
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2022, 04:28:53 am »
Camera's everywhere in this world and not one picture of "Armed" watchers.  What is this, Paul Pelosi security equipment?

If they say it is so....well...how dare you question them ?

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Re: Feds concerned about armed people at Arizona ballot boxes
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2022, 09:55:16 am »
So what are they gonna do? Send Armed Feds? :shrug:
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Re: Feds concerned about armed people at Arizona ballot boxes
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2022, 10:37:26 pm »
It's just another way to promote the idea of GOP whackos.

Right now, from what I can tell, there are a lot of butthurt lefties out there who are pissed because they see what is coming their way in three days.

And they are lashing out in very way possible.  Most of it is irrational. 

Polls are now....totally worthless to them....as the polls are telling them to take a deep breath.....

Cause they are going down !