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How bad will the Dems get shellacked next week?

We take both w/Super Majority (stoner option)
2 (8%)
House 25+ Senate 3+
13 (52%)
House +10 Senate +2
4 (16%)
House +5 Senate +1
3 (12%)
Lose everything (regardless)
3 (12%)

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Voting closed: November 10, 2022, 04:52:50 pm

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How bad will the Dems get shellacked next week?
« on: October 31, 2022, 04:52:50 pm »
The 2022 Midterm Elections: What the Historical Data Suggest.

History suggests Democratic loss of control of both House and Senate.

By John T. Woolley

In the 22 midterm elections from 1934 -2018, the President's party has averaged a loss of 28 House seats and four Senate seats. The president’s party gained seats in the House only three times, but gained seats in the Senate on six occasions. The president’s party has gained seats in both houses only twice.

The incumbent president’s ability to launch new major policy initiatives would be greatly weakened under divided government. If the Democrats lose control of either House, the Administration can expect to be the target of numerous disruptive congressional inquiries.

Using the data we discuss below (and provide here) we would expect Democratic seat losses of around 30 in the House and 3 in the Senate. There are large error bounds around these estimates. The prediction range includes the possibility of a narrow Democratic gain in the Senate, but loss of the majority in the House seems likely. Graphs below show the two-variable relationships.

Democrats have a 9 seat margin currently in the House (with four seats vacant) and the parties are tied in the Senate. A Democratic loss in the House of fewer than 12 seats would be very unexpected.

Like many midterm projections, these estimates are based on aggregated data. There is no measure of current national controversies (for example, abortion or Trump-related litigation controversies). Both will affect turnout. Nor do we have any explicit measure of conditions and candidates in specific elections. Turnout is likely to be larger than normal, and usually that would be expected to favor the Democrats.

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https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/analyses/the-2022-midterm-elections-what-the-historical-data-suggest

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Re: How bad will the Dems get shellacked next week?
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2022, 06:48:11 pm »
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Re: How bad will the Dems get shellacked next week?
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2022, 07:12:50 pm »
Senate:  Gain 4
House:   Gain 32
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Re: How bad will the Dems get shellacked next week?
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2022, 07:22:52 pm »
Senate:  Gain 4
House:   Gain 32

That's so close it's scary! It will actually be 33 in the house.

House will be 245 republican (40 in name only) 190 Democrat (aka Communist)

Senate will be 53 republican (5 in name only) 46 democrat one avowed Communist.

« Last Edit: October 31, 2022, 07:25:40 pm by Bigun »
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Re: How bad will the Dems get shellacked next week?
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2022, 07:32:21 pm »
A 'shellacking" should also include Governors, statehouses, Attorneys General, and school boards.

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Re: How bad will the Dems get shellacked next week?
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2022, 07:36:37 pm »
If "it's the economy, stupid" still holds up, Dems should get shellacked worse than anticipated.

The Dems domestic policies have economically harmed a large majority of Americans.
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Re: How bad will the Dems get shellacked next week?
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2022, 07:36:41 pm »
A 'shellacking" should also include Governors, statehouses, Attorneys General, and school boards.

Remember this when you vote.

You forgot city and County governments.
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Re: How bad will the Dems get shellacked next week?
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2022, 07:52:59 pm »
Senate will be 53 republican (5 in name only) 46 democrat one avowed Communist.


Forty-five Democrats and two Communists.  Sanders and King.
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Re: How bad will the Dems get shellacked next week?
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2022, 08:11:32 pm »
Republicans will plow the field... and then... nothing.

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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2022, 08:16:04 pm »
Republicans will plow the field... and then... nothing.

If history is a guide, yes but some in this new crop aren't going to play ball with that crowd. @roamer_1
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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2022, 08:22:52 pm »
If history is a guide, yes but some in this new crop aren't going to play ball with that crowd. @roamer_1

Even if that is true @Bigun , and Freedom Caucus grows by 25 or 30, it still has a long way to go to have numbers that give it real power inside the GOP... And what, 4 or 5 senators? That won't amount to a row of pins in the RINO GOP senate.

I'll take the win... but still, nothing.

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Re: How bad will the Dems get shellacked next week?
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2022, 08:27:27 pm »
A 'shellacking" should also include Governors, statehouses, Attorneys General, and school boards.

Remember this when you vote.

Agreed.  Look for lots of action at the State level going forward as R's take more seats.  In Arizona, redistricting has been very good for our side.
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Re: How bad will the Dems get shellacked next week?
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2022, 08:29:38 pm »
Even if that is true @Bigun , and Freedom Caucus grows by 25 or 30, it still has a long way to go to have numbers that give it real power inside the GOP... And what, 4 or 5 senators? That won't amount to a row of pins in the RINO GOP senate.

I'll take the win... but still, nothing.

You could be right @roamer_1 but I'm a bit more hopeful today than I was six months ago.
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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2022, 08:31:51 pm »
Agreed.  Look for lots of action at the State level going forward as R's take more seats.  In Arizona, redistricting has been very good for our side.

And, believe it or not, THAT stuff is much more important than any of this federal cfrap.
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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2022, 08:42:38 pm »
You could be right @roamer_1 but I'm a bit more hopeful today than I was six months ago.

Hope always springs eternal @Bigun ... metered only by human nature.
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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2022, 08:44:02 pm »
Agreed.  Look for lots of action at the State level going forward as R's take more seats.  In Arizona, redistricting has been very good for our side.

If it were TEA, I would be more optimistic.  :shrug:

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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2022, 09:16:45 pm »
And, believe it or not, THAT stuff is much more important than any of this federal cfrap.


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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2022, 09:49:52 pm »
Okay, here’s the deal. Last November during Wisconsin’s annual deer hunting season - and in what may have been inspired or induced by bourbon - I made a small wager with my brother that the (R)’s would win back 40 seats. I’m sticking with that.
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« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2022, 10:13:49 pm »
Okay, here’s the deal. Last November during Wisconsin’s annual deer hunting season - and in what may have been inspired or induced by bourbon - I made a small wager with my brother that the (R)’s would win back 40 seats. I’m sticking with that.

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« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2022, 11:14:51 pm »
Okay, here’s the deal. Last November during Wisconsin’s annual deer hunting season - and in what may have been inspired or induced by bourbon - I made a small wager with my brother that the (R)’s would win back 40 seats. I’m sticking with that.

What was the wager?
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« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2022, 11:22:39 pm »
What was the wager?

Friendly. 20 bucks.
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« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2022, 11:25:29 pm »
My bro is a good guy. You can discuss and disagree and the conversation never becomes disagreeable. He lives his life as a conservative but he votes (D). I can’t explain it.
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Re: How bad will the Dems get shellacked next week?
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2022, 11:30:37 pm »
Being the optimist that I am ( *****rollingeyes*****), I think that DEMS will hold a majority in the Senate and the GOP will narrowly win a majority in the House.

I'm basing much of that opinion on the DEMS capabilities of stealing elections.
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« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2022, 04:48:09 am »
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« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2022, 10:56:30 am »
My bro is a good guy. You can discuss and disagree and the conversation never becomes disagreeable. He lives his life as a conservative but he votes (D). I can’t explain it.

Have you considered a DNA test?  They may have switched babies at the hospital.
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