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Dershowitz:  "I don’t believe that these universities are interested in intellectual, academic diversity. They're interested only in having a photograph that shows a significant number of people — it’s a quota system."

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If universities were really interested in diversity, they would hire more Conservative faculty members.
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If universities were really interested in diversity, they would hire more Conservative faculty members.

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If universities were really interested in diversity, they would hire more Conservative faculty members.

Exactly.

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U.S. Supreme Court likely to end affirmative action in college admissions: legal experts
'This proved to be a full-contact oral argument for both the advocates and the justices,' law professor Jonathan Turley stated to Fox News.
    By Ian Miles Cheong | November 01, 2022

Supreme Court experts have said that the Justices are likely to end the use of affirmative action in college admissions.

Speaking to Fox News, George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley said, “This proved to be a full-contact oral argument for both the advocates and the justices,” and that “The challengers clearly had a better day before the court.”

The court previously heard two other cases on the use of race admissions at Harvard University and the University of North Carolina. The activist group, Students for Fair Admissions, brought forward both cases, Fox News reported.

“Chief Justice Roberts at points appeared to be losing his patience with Harvard's counsel Seth Waxman due to his combative style in oral argument,” Turley said in an interview with Fox News Digital. “Waxman spoke over a number of justices who asked questions and did not appear responsive to direct questions from justices.” ... Rebel News
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In a discussion over affirmative action, Sotomayor ironically shows she doesn't know the basic difference between "de facto" and "de jure." It's not a slip of the tongue, they go back and forth, Alito tries to correct her and she proceeds to make the same mistake.

Someone observing the oral argument tells me that Kagan was trying to make a coherent point, and was interrupted by Sotomayor asking some nonsense question. Kagan then "immediately folded her head into her hands and then glared at Soto."
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In a discussion over affirmative action, Sotomayor ironically shows she doesn't know the basic difference between "de facto" and "de jure." It's not a slip of the tongue, they go back and forth, Alito tries to correct her and she proceeds to make the same mistake.

Someone observing the oral argument tells me that Kagan was trying to make a coherent point, and was interrupted by Sotomayor asking some nonsense question. Kagan then "immediately folded her head into her hands and then glared at Soto."


That is a little shocking, to be perfectly honest.  The only de jure discrimination in the U.S. at this point is the discrimination she is trying to defend - i.e., affirmative action.

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"I don’t need affirmative action to be successful.  Stop treating my blackness like it’s a disability.'  (Video)


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AA should be on the line. In today's world, there should be no race issue. IMNSHO, the "race" question should not be on the application at all. Look at the qualifications, period.

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That is a little shocking, to be perfectly honest.  The only de jure discrimination in the U.S. at this point is the discrimination she is trying to defend - i.e., affirmative action.
Exactly. Justice Thomas said as much when one of the lawyers tried to defend racial discrimination in the form of preferences.
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Richard Hanania
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In a discussion over affirmative action, Sotomayor ironically shows she doesn't know the basic difference between "de facto" and "de jure."


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This could easily turn out to be the most significant court ruling made since the founding of America.
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AA should be on the line. In today's world, there should be no race issue. IMNSHO, the "race" question should not be on the application at all. Look at the qualifications, period.
I have been saying that for years. If I have to check those boxes, the question is "Why?". None of those are supposed to be a factor in whether or not I am a qualified applicant, and let the best qualified applicant win.
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I have been saying that for years. If I have to check those boxes, the question is "Why?". None of those are supposed to be a factor in whether or not I am a qualified applicant, and let the best qualified applicant win.

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If you want to stop racial discrimination stop doing it! 

Affirmative action is just racial discrimination by another name.
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If you want to stop racial discrimination stop doing it! 

Affirmative action is just racial discrimination by another name.

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