We Need To Stop Calling Ourselves Conservatives

[Hoodat]

"Republicans ran to fix Washington," reads the memo from the House Freedom Caucus obtained by Just the News. "We cannot continue to govern in the same way that broke it."...

Some Republicans did.  But the majority ran because it has become a well-paying career.

However, the statement here is spot on.  We cannot continue to govern in the same way that broke it.  Cut off the Fed.  Stop monetizing the debt.  If government refuses to live within its means, then it has to compete with everyone else for borrowed dollars.  Asking the Fed to print money may help politicians hold on to their jobs, but it is literally destroying this country.

[roamer_1]

The TEA Party did not die at the hands of the Democrat MSM.  It was murdered by GOP daggers thrust into its back.

If only the GOP was willing to fight against Democrats with the same fervor it uses fighting against Conservatives.

BARE FACTS.

[Bigun]

Conservatism is not a label. That's the point.

Conservatism is a state of mind. Far removed from mere labels.

[catfish1957]

LOL! Like I said... **** around and find out. Y'all haven't fought for shit. and won less.
Because populism is not Conservatism and never will be.

I miss ol' Phil Gramm.  We need a 100 like him, who in every other statement screams for balancing the Fedzilla budget.

That is why there are no more traditonal conservatives left.  There are 31 trillion reasons why all of DC is shit.

[corbe]

LOL! Like I said... **** around and find out. Y'all haven't fought for shit. and won less.
Because populism is not Conservatism and never will be.

 

[DCPatriot]

@DCPatriot

Ahh... So anyone who BELIEVES the stuff you are supposed to be standing for is virtue signaling... Couldn't be that my philosophical bend governs my life, could it?

Look. What political Conservatism is *FOR* is to ensure a government that allows actual Conservatives to practice their actual philosophy in what they call LIBERTY.

The promise of that in modernity IS Goldwater-Reagan, and nothing else. THAT was the promise made. And THAT is the promise that must be kept. Otherwise, y'all are of no use to me at all.

Because my liberty will soon be endangered (is being endangered even now) without those things - ALL of them.

And thus, the coalition of Conservatives may as well go elsewhere - and most of them have.

Your reasoning may well be nothing but the politics, and thus everything is a label to be worn any way you choose... But mine is a philosophy rooted in natural law that is proven to be true against aeons.

Anyone who ignores that valuable knowledge knows neither history nor human nature... And is doomed to repeat the past.

The absurdity is that you want me to help you do it.

There was only ONE Conservative like you in the "Goldwater-Reagan" act.  And he LOST!   

[Hoodat]

Nothing will change until the crop of legacy conservatives are replaced with the new breed of fighters.

lol.  First of all, there are only a small handful of Conservatives in Congress now.  This new breed of fighters are the same ones helping Democrats destroy the country.  Every single time a new budget authorization comes up, funded with new Fed money, your new breed helps get it passed.  If Conservatives were in control, there would be no need to involve the Fed.  The budget would be balanced.

Fighters?  Fighters would say "Hell NO!"  Fighters would shut the government down until a majority of legislators bit the bullet and agreed for our government to live within its means.

[roamer_1]

There was only ONE Conservative like you in the "Goldwater-Reagan" act.  And he LOST!   

Then what good are you??

[Bigun]

I miss ol' Phil Gramm.  We need a 100 like him, who in every other statement screams for balancing the Fedzilla budget.

That is why there are no more traditonal conservatives left.  There are 31 trillion reasons why all of DC is shit.

I'm more in line with this line of thinking:

"I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution, or that have failed in their purpose, or that impose on the people an unwarranted financial burden. I will not attempt to discover whether legislation is 'needed' before I have first determined whether it is constitutionally permissible. And if I should later be attacked for neglecting my constituents' interests, I shall reply that I was informed their main interest is liberty and that in that cause I am doing the very best I can."

 Sen. Barry Goldwater (R-Ariz.), "The Conscience of a Conservative"


But that does not mean that I do not recognize the need to recognize the realities of the current situation.

[Hoodat]

There was only ONE Conservative like you in the "Goldwater-Reagan" act.  And he LOST!   

[catfish1957]

I'm more in line with this line of thinking:

"I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution, or that have failed in their purpose, or that impose on the people an unwarranted financial burden. I will not attempt to discover whether legislation is 'needed' before I have first determined whether it is constitutionally permissible. And if I should later be attacked for neglecting my constituents' interests, I shall reply that I was informed their main interest is liberty and that in that cause I am doing the very best I can."

 Sen. Barry Goldwater (R-Ariz.), "The Conscience of a Conservative"

 

Need 100% adherence to zero based budgetting and gut Fedzilla down to the bones.

[sneakypete]

The TEA Party did not die at the hands of the Democrat MSM.  It was murdered by GOP daggers thrust into its back.

YUP!

If only the GOP was willing to fight against Democrats with the same fervor it uses fighting against Conservatives.

@Hoodat

That didn't have a single damn thing to go with the Dims,or Dim policies. It was all about "Protecting MY seat and MY power by the Senior ALLEGED Republicans.

It was PERSONAL,NOT political. It was all about "Me,ME,ME,DAMMIT!"

Had nothing to do with you,me,or anyone else not on their Christmas Card list.

NOTHING will fire up a career politician like a serious threat to their seat,which is also a serious theat to their power and income.

[Hoodat]

@Right_in_Virginia

WRONG. How many bright new Conservatives has MurderTurdle yanked the monetary carpet out from under?

Speaking of Mitch, there are currently three Senate races that the pundits are highlighting to determine who wins control of the Senate in 2023:

Pennsylvania
Georgia
Arizona

In each of these three races, Mitch McConnell opposed the eventual Republican nominee.

[roamer_1]

Speaking of Mitch, there are currently three Senate races that the pundits are highlighting to determine who wins control of the Senate in 2023:

Pennsylvania
Georgia
Arizona

In each of these three races, Mitch McConnell opposed the eventual Republican nominee.

I would like nothing more than to see that particular bastard resign in infamy.

[roamer_1]

I'm more in line with this line of thinking:

"I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution, or that have failed in their purpose, or that impose on the people an unwarranted financial burden. I will not attempt to discover whether legislation is 'needed' before I have first determined whether it is constitutionally permissible. And if I should later be attacked for neglecting my constituents' interests, I shall reply that I was informed their main interest is liberty and that in that cause I am doing the very best I can."

 Sen. Barry Goldwater (R-Ariz.), "The Conscience of a Conservative"


But that does not mean that I do not recognize the need to recognize the realities of the current situation.

ABSOLUTELY!!!

Where is THAT in the so-called 'conservatism' of today?

[catfish1957]

I would like nothing more than to see that particular bastard resign in infamy.

You'll never find 25-27 GOP senators with enough balls to dethrone the SOB.  Hate to burst the bubble.

[roamer_1]

I miss ol' Phil Gramm.  We need a 100 like him, who in every other statement screams for balancing the Fedzilla budget.

That is why there are no more traditonal conservatives left.  There are 31 trillion reasons why all of DC is shit.

That's damn well right.

[DCPatriot]

Then what good are you??

You looked in the mirror when you typed that, didn't you??   

The only possible way your type of "Conservatism" can work is starting out with a solid majority of support from the People.
Because it involves nothing but decades of miserable economic pain in order to escape it.

Today, that's impossible.

Don't laugh...we all know temporarily suspending the Women's vote would do the trick, but.....NOOOOOO!!!!   

The "Woman" vote as a group can be described as more emotional and nurturing.  AAACK!!!  Democratic!!

Okay...now we can all laugh....   

[roamer_1]

You'll never find 25-27 GOP senators with enough balls to dethrone the SOB.  Hate to burst the bubble.

no bubble there. I know it.

[roamer_1]

You looked in the mirror when you typed that, didn't you??   

No.

The only possible way your type of "Conservatism" can work is starting out with a solid majority of support from the People.
Because it involves nothing but decades of miserable economic pain in order to escape it.

Today, that's impossible.

What you will have instead is far, far worse - And is now almost certainly a mathematical certainty.

The piper WILL be paid. And the bill is WAY past due.

Most people have no idea what that will be like, and are damn well not ready for when it comes.

[roamer_1]

I am almost sure everybody on this board will see bread at $10,000 a loaf.

[catfish1957]

I am almost sure everybody on this board will see bread at $10,000 a loaf.

Hopefully we'll have a Bastille Day in DC before it gets that out of hand.

Maybe the socialist slime legislators will think they'll be martyrs.   

I'll be more like....  Good Riddance.

[DCPatriot]

No.

What you will have instead is far, far worse - And is now almost certainly a mathematical certainty.

The piper WILL be paid. And the bill is WAY past due.

Most people have no idea what that will be like, and are damn well not ready for when it comes.

Human Nature.

Taking this miracle "Castor Oil" you're selling out the back of your truck that even tells you on the label ..."Tastes like Shit!!"

Good luck selling that to the country.

Look...we're not going to resurrect the Reagan Years!   We're not taking about a decade of double digit fixed mortgage rates here!!

Not to a generation...(going on two) of participation trophies who are conditioning themselves to no future (Climate Crap), poor-paying jobs so they can hardly afford rent...let alone to buy something.

So, who's going to sign up for that.  VOTE for that???

It's why I think the opposition already factored in...losing the House and Senate.

Put the GOP in charge when you're getting your prostate re-sectioned.

[Hoodat]

I am almost sure everybody on this board will see bread at $10,000 a loaf.

Once the Weimar Dollar is replaced as the standard petroleum exchange currency, people will be lucky to see bread at any price.

[Hoodat]

It's why I think the opposition already factored in...losing the House and Senate.

Put the GOP in charge when you're getting your prostate re-sectioned.

The difference here is that we aren't demanding your votes.  You are demanding ours.  So tell me, which vote is worth more?  When your policies fail at the ballot box, the first thing you do is blame Conservatives for not supporting your liberal spend, spend, spend - compromise, compromise, compromise - sell out, sell out, sell out bullshit.