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Is NATO the aggressor in Ukraine?
unite for individuality:
--- Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on January 26, 2023, 04:43:37 am ---"Jeffrey Sachs:
US government "definitely contributed to the overthrow of Yanukovych...
I know this from inside, not just from outside.
I know from top people involved in these issues."
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This is a good example of how closely linked the global ruling clique is with academia.
Jeffrey Sachs (not part of Goldman Sachs) is an economist at Columbia U.
who has been hired as a consultant by several countries around the world.
In the above post, he boasts that he personally knows the people who
overthrew the pro-Russian government in Ukraine,
which prompted Putin to invade the country.
Do not ever think that the war in Ukraine is between
the pro-democracy West and the Russian oligarchy.
It is actually a war between
the global ruling clique (the European oligarchy)
and the Russian oligarchy.
NATO can be most accurately described as
the military arm of the World Trade Organization.
The fact revealed by Jeffrey Sachs that
the U.S. government was involved in the overthrow Ukraine's government
reveals that the U.S. government, the D.C. swamp,
is a COLONY of the WTO's global empire!
More about Jeffrey Sachs -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Sachs
Hoodat:
--- Quote from: unite for individuality on January 26, 2023, 06:01:56 am ---In the above post, he boasts that he personally knows the people who
overthrew the pro-Russian government in Ukraine,
which prompted Putin to invade the country.
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Just want to be clear about what happened. Russia invaded Ukraine. It is their war. They started it. They alone are the aggressors. And they can end it whenever they choose.
Right_in_Virginia:
--- Quote from: Hoodat on January 26, 2023, 06:14:46 am ---Just want to be clear about what happened. Russia invaded Ukraine. It is their war. They started it.
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Angelo Fazio
@TheLoFaz
How can so many stand for the planet, healthcare and humanity and at the same time advocate for WW3?
I get the “he started it” argument (I have a 6 year old), not grounds to fan the flames of mass destruction.
Pick one, either you want to save the world or destroy it.
9:39 AM · Jan 26, 2023
Kamaji:
--- Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on January 26, 2023, 08:09:16 pm ---Angelo Fazio
@TheLoFaz
How can so many stand for the planet, healthcare and humanity and at the same time advocate for WW3?
I get the “he started it” argument (I have a 6 year old), not grounds to fan the flames of mass destruction.
Pick one, either you want to save the world or destroy it.
9:39 AM · Jan 26, 2023
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:mauslaff:
Right_in_Virginia:
2016--- Oliver Stone Documentary "Ukraine on Fire". (Video)
--- Quote ---The film premiered at the Taormina Film Festival in Italy on 16 June 2016; thereafter, it did not receive a general theatrical release but was published as DVD on 18 July 2017. Later, the documentary became available also in the video on demand market via Apple TV and Amazon Prime and since June 2021 also on YouTube.
In March 2022, it was reported that the documentary had been removed from YouTube and Vimeo. YouTube explained they "removed this video for violating our violent or graphic content policy, which prohibits content containing footage of corpses with massive injuries, such as severed limbs"; subsequently, the film was uploaded to Rumble for free viewing. As of 12 March 2022, the documentary was again available on YouTube, this time with a content warning attached.
Ron Dreher, writing for the American Conservative, gave this impression: "I expected 'Ukraine On Fire' to be propaganda, and indeed it was. But that doesn't mean it is entirely a lie, and in any case, it's important to know how the other side regards a conflict, if only to understand how they are likely thinking." He confirmed that some NGO are in the political change business as seen personally observed in Hungary and argues against a black hat vs. white hat interpretation of the situation. According to his assessment, the argument by Mearsheimer and Kennan, that the West has pushed Ukraine and Russia towards an escalating crisis, needs some consideration (not full endorsement) in order to understand the complexity of the situation.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_on_Fire
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https://youtu.be/kGQfiImnZHE
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