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Doctors have a macabre new way to harvest organs
« on: October 02, 2022, 01:34:16 pm »
October 2, 2022
Doctors have a macabre new way to harvest organs
By Heidi Klessig, M.D.

In the never-ending quest for viable organs, doctors have found a way around brain death and circulatory death criteria.  Transplant centers around the country are removing organ donors from life support, clamping off the blood flow to their brains, and then restarting their hearts.  Thus, the organs are resuscitated and viable for transplant, but the person doesn't wake up.

This procedure, known as normothermic regional perfusion with controlled donation after circulatory death (NRP-cDCD) allows for organ-harvesting in patients who are not brain-dead but who are not expected to survive.  Life support is removed, and after the heart stops beating, doctors wait an average of 2–3 minutes to see if the heart will start up again on its own.  If it doesn't, surgery begins with clamping off the blood flow to the patient's brain.  That way, when the rest of the body is resuscitated, the brain is excluded from the returning blood flow, and the body is effectively made "brain-dead" on purpose.  After the brain circulation is occluded, the rest of the body is hooked up to a cardiac bypass machine to deliver warm, oxygenated blood to the organs.  According to the University of Nebraska protocol, "once blood flow to the heart is established, the heart will start beating."  The remaining organs are thus resuscitated and can be harvested for transplantation.  The NRP-cDCD protocol allows for the harvesting of organs such as the heart and intestines, which would quickly become non-viable and unsuitable for transplant with previous circulatory death harvesting techniques.

Many medical professionals are uncomfortable with donation after circulatory death because they know that patients are routinely resuscitated after 2–3 minutes of cardiac arrest.  Dr. Ari Joffe, a clinical professor of pediatrics and critical care at the University of Alberta, has found at least 12 patients whose hearts restarted without any medical intervention after as much as 10 minutes of cardiac arrest, and some of these patients made a complete recovery.  In 2020, the heart of a young woman who had been declared dead by circulatory criteria was noted to have restarted during the removal of her kidneys, even as she began to gasp for breath.  The coroner declared her "second" death a homicide.  Because of concerns such as these, the American College of Physicians (ACP) recommended in 2021 that the practice of NRP-cDCD be paused, as "the burden of proof regarding the ethical and legal propriety of this practice has not been met."  Other nations, such as Australia, have banned NRP-cDCD altogether.  But despite ongoing ethical concerns, this type of organ-harvesting is continuing and expanding in the USA.

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Re: Doctors have a macabre new way to harvest organs
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2022, 01:49:47 pm »
Pretty sure I saw at least one episode of Law & Order like this. They're killing people to harvest their organs, in other words.
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Re: Doctors have a macabre new way to harvest organs
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2022, 02:28:34 pm »
Pretty sure I saw at least one episode of Law & Order like this. They're killing people to harvest their organs, in other words.

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Re: Doctors have a macabre new way to harvest organs
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2022, 10:26:44 pm »
This will continue (and increase) in the blue states.

It's up to the red states to pass state laws banning such practices.

The country is divided now... don't expect the DC government to fix this.

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Re: Doctors have a macabre new way to harvest organs
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2022, 10:42:36 pm »
THIS is why I am not an organ donor.
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Re: Doctors have a macabre new way to harvest organs
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2022, 12:35:38 am »
Pretty sure I saw at least one episode of Law & Order like this. They're killing people to harvest their organs, in other words.

Makes me think of a classic from 1978.


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Re: Doctors have a macabre new way to harvest organs
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2022, 03:06:10 am »
Outside the few minute window after the patient codes, the body releases enzymes which start the decay process and render the organs less usable with time (pretty quickly).

But consider, with cost estimates of a cool million for a healthy heart, over 100K for liver and each kidney, down to 10 bucks a square inch for skin, most people are ''worth' more parted out than living, at least to those with the knife. Does this cause a 'rush' to 'harvest'?

Or are you worth more as a patient than a donor?
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Re: Doctors have a macabre new way to harvest organs
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2022, 04:03:39 am »
THIS is why I am not an organ donor.

I'ma gonna be bear poop... So I think that process renders the organs useless.  :shrug: