Trump calls for a re-do of the 2020 election “immediately!”

[Right_in_Virginia]

I didn't change the subject at all.

You sure tried. 

[roamer_1]

You sure tried.

I did no such thing.

[corbe]

   So, are you finally admitting that perhaps you need all Republicans, even the Conservative ones, to push your fat orange populist across the line in 2024?

@Right_in_Virginia 

[libertybele]

   So, are you finally admitting that perhaps you need all Republicans, even the Conservative ones, to push your fat orange populist across the line in 2024?

@Right_in_Virginia

@corbe I get and understand that you don't like Trump. What is concerning is that there is no one with his experience in dodging all the mudslinging that the left threw at him; impeachments, collusion, insurrection, etc. that has announced or is willing to run.

All eyes are on DeSantis but again, he has stated that he is not interested.  So, who do you think the GOP has in their back pocket that can win against the DEMS?  I highly doubt that the ticket is going to be Joe/Chuckles again.  IMO the leftists will have inserted who they want into the race, my guess is Rice, Jarrett, or Michelle.  Also, consider it is likely that amnesty will be granted by then and millions of DEM voters will be itching to cast their first ballot.

So ... if not the fat orange man, then who??

IMO Trump is the best bet., if he weren't such a threat the leftists and RINO's like Cheney wouldn't be after him to try and stop him from running.

[corbe]

   I just lived through 4 years of Trump.  For America to give him another 4 years to fix this $hit is just insane.  Realizing that this Country has digressed into unchartered territory leaves me very little hope. @libertybele

   It would be suicidal for DeSantis to make any public statement about 2024. 
   Maybe Cruz will develop the courage, again, for Round 2 with a wounded Trump in the Arena, afterall.  DeSantis is the Answer.

[DefiantMassRINO]

... immediately ... 2 years later

He's keeping old grievances fresh to keep people riled up so they'll do his bidding when he blows his dog whistle, which can be heard by Trump's favorite lap dog, Lindsey Graham.

[Right_in_Virginia]

   So, are you finally admitting that perhaps you need all Republicans, even the Conservative ones, to push your fat orange populist across the line in 2024?

@Right_in_Virginia

[Right_in_Virginia]

The longer this thread lasts, the sillier you sound.  Calling non-orange koolaid drinking briefers basically cowards is downright insulting.

For the record, I was the 3rd registered GOP voter in the history of my county. Don't lecture me on fortitude or fear.

I suppose it's possible that in your world nothing says courage and fortitude like surrendering the target of a fascist government to the regime because a tweet confused you  @catfish1957   

[corbe]

   Incidentally My Favorite Trump autobiography is coming on TCM in about 20 minutes.

[roamer_1]

@corbe I get and understand that you don't like Trump. What is concerning is that there is no one with his experience in dodging all the mudslinging that the left threw at him; impeachments, collusion, insurrection, etc. that has announced or is willing to run.

Why would ANYONE be throwing their hat in the ring this soon? The mid terms ain't even done yet. Traditionally  'announcing' is still a YEAR away.

So ... if not the fat orange man, then who??

IMO Trump is the best bet., if he weren't such a threat the leftists and RINO's like Cheney wouldn't be after him to try and stop him from running.

Twenty_Trillion_Dollars.

NEXT.

[berdie]

Why would ANYONE be throwing their hat in the ring this soon? The mid terms ain't even done yet. Traditionally  'announcing' is still a YEAR away.

Twenty_Trillion_Dollars.

NEXT.

And the added benefit of non-stop, reality tv drama.

[roamer_1]

And the added benefit of non-stop, reality tv drama.

woohoo. Like we need any more of that. 

 

[corbe]

   After the way they treated Goldwater, Nixon, Reagan and the Bush clan I am not surprised American likes its Republicans to Fight Back but I just think there's a better way to approach this problem, maybe Logic instead of getting down in the ditch with them, of course, I could be wrong.

 

[libertybele]

Why would ANYONE be throwing their hat in the ring this soon? The mid terms ain't even done yet. Traditionally  'announcing' is still a YEAR away.

Twenty_Trillion_Dollars.

NEXT.

You are correct the mid terms are still a couple of months away and usually candidates don't announce they're running for about a year out from now.

That's not the concern ... again, the concern is who has the stamina, tenacity, and bullet-proof vest that will be needed to withstand the attacks from the leftists?  I'm looking around the Senate - possibly Cruz or Paul.  Looking around the House, possibly Hawley.  Conservative governors need to stay right where they're at.

Conservatives aren't exactly numerous and chomping at the bit to run at any level.  We'll see the typical RINO's come '24 (if we make it that far).

You can look at Trump's deficit and sneer and rightfully so, but we didn't have the empty shelves, runaway inflation, economic downturn, and we were energy independent.  I'll take that from what we have now and Joe has tacked on another 3 trillion and it sure as heck hasn't gone to help us in the U.S.

[libertybele]

   I just lived through 4 years of Trump.  For America to give him another 4 years to fix this $hit is just insane.  Realizing that this Country has digressed into unchartered territory leaves me very little hope. @libertybele

   It would be suicidal for DeSantis to make any public statement about 2024. 
   Maybe Cruz will develop the courage, again, for Round 2 with a wounded Trump in the Arena, afterall.  DeSantis is the Answer.

@corbe you need to remember what things were like under Obama -- enter Trump; lowest unemployment in history, energy independent, revered around the globe, NAFTA re-negotiated, CHINA under control, IRAN nuke deal reversed, etc.  Yes COVID hit -- still my opinion that it was inflicted upon us to steal an election and destroy Trump's economy and to allow Joe to bring our country to its knees.

Trump had us headed in the right direction.  Again, DeSantis said he's not interested.  I doubt he wants to drag his wife and small kids through the wringer.

The market has plunged to a 50 year decline -- though the fed is raising interest rates Powell and the financial gurus have stated that inflation will continue to skyrocket.

President Trump is needed again -- I'm not so sure that he'll be able or eligible to run.  IF not we're in trouble. 

The DEMS have headed us for the Great Reset -- it has taken a huge chunk out of our small budget and if inflation continues I think we're going to see worse than the Great Depression and possibly become a 3rd world country.

Just my opinion.

[EdinVA]

You can look at Trump's deficit and sneer and rightfully so, but we didn't have the empty shelves, runaway inflation, economic downturn, and we were energy independent.  I'll take that from what we have now and Joe has tacked on another 3 trillion and it sure as heck hasn't gone to help us in the U.S.

Folks seem to forget, Trump refused to sign those budget busters 3 times wanting congress to fix it.  They refused and he was getting heat for shutting down the gov... so that is on congress not Trump

[catfish1957]

I suppose it's possible that in your world nothing says courage and fortitude like surrendering the target of a fascist government to the regime because a tweet confused you  @catfish1957   

@Right_in_Virginia

Sorry... you lost that narrative that the tweet did not constitute  a "do-over".  Your lack of understanding plain English is pretty puzzling.

Your explanation of it being "trolling" almost has a gaslit feel to it.  We all know what Trump meant.

[roamer_1]

You are correct the mid terms are still a couple of months away and usually candidates don't announce they're running for about a year out from now.

That's not the concern ... again, the concern is who has the stamina, tenacity, and bullet-proof vest that will be needed to withstand the attacks from the leftists?  I'm looking around the Senate - possibly Cruz or Paul.  Looking around the House, possibly Hawley.  Conservative governors need to stay right where they're at.

Conservatives aren't exactly numerous and chomping at the bit to run at any level.  We'll see the typical RINO's come '24 (if we make it that far).

None of that matters *at all* till we know who's running. And it's a looooong time from now before we know that. No sense getting all verklempt about it literally a political age before we know anything. Far better to focus on what's on the plate right now - Because taking the house will tie it in knots, and taking both the house and senate leaves a chance in hell to fight back... And will set the tone for the following silly season you are worried about.

You can look at Trump's deficit and sneer and rightfully so, but we didn't have the empty shelves, runaway inflation, economic downturn, and we were energy independent.  I'll take that from what we have now and Joe has tacked on another 3 trillion and it sure as heck hasn't gone to help us in the U.S.

And you don't think the shutdown under Tumpy and the 8T dollars of new debt he presided over have anything to do with that? How much of that massively increased government power, instituted under him, might be at play now?

The way to stop all this is to take the power away, and the only way to take the power is to take the money away... FROM EVERYONE. The one thing all y'all refuse to admit is the very thing that allows the continuity which enables the deep state y'all are so very against - That continuity is directly related to big.gov and NOTHING was done to reduce it in the least.

In fact it INCREASED...

The ONE thing I am precisely sure of is 'TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY'.

ANY increase in government is not to be tolerated. Even toeing the line and breaking even is not enough. REAL and lasting REDUCTION removes the power from them all.

And that, most certainly, is NOT TUMPY.

Twenty friggin trillion dollars and over a quarter more existing debt.
That translates directly to expanded government and deep state power.

NEXT.

[libertybele]

None of that matters *at all* till we know who's running. And it's a looooong time from now before we know that. No sense getting all verklempt about it literally a political age before we know anything. Far better to focus on what's on the plate right now - Because taking the house will tie it in knots, and taking both the house and senate leaves a chance in hell to fight back... And will set the tone for the following silly season you are worried about.

And you don't think the shutdown under Tumpy and the 8T dollars of new debt he presided over have anything to do with that? How much of that massively increased government power, instituted under him, might be at play now?

The way to stop all this is to take the power away, and the only way to take the power is to take the money away... FROM EVERYONE. The one thing all y'all refuse to admit is the very thing that allows the continuity which enables the deep state y'all are so very against - That continuity is directly related to big.gov and NOTHING was done to reduce it in the least.

In fact it INCREASED...

The ONE thing I am precisely sure of is 'TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY'.

ANY increase in government is not to be tolerated. Even toeing the line and breaking even is not enough. REAL and lasting REDUCTION removes the power from them all.

And that, most certainly, is NOT TUMPY.

Twenty friggin trillion dollars and over a quarter more existing debt.
That translates directly to expanded government and deep state power.

NEXT.

@roamer_1  Trump left the shutdown up to the governor's of each state.  It was Fauci he insisted that people be masked, social distance and the whole hurrah .... FL and TX shutdown as well, but Abbott and DeSantis saw the crappola that was being flung.

We'll see what happens.  We are hurting as a nation and it is going to take a miracle to turn things around -- I'm not so sure that this country is going to come back from the destruction of Joe & Co.

I fear for those who haven't prepared and I fear even more for the upcoming generation.  They are the ones who are going to suffer the most.

Long live TEA!!

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia

Sorry... you lost that narrative that the tweet did not constitute  a "do-over".  Your lack of understanding plain English is pretty puzzling.

@catfish1957  --- I think plain English is grasped by most.  Your lack of understanding stems from sarcasm being the highest form of intelligence.

[catfish1957]

@catfish1957  --- I think plain English is grasped by most.  Your lack of understanding stems from sarcasm being the highest form of intelligence.

Try a new tactic.....  Denial is failing.

Equating a "do-over" in the context of DJT's tweet with sarcasm, is just plain silly.  You've jumped the shark in your Orange obsessive derangement.  Just admit he went unhinged, and went rogue sensically.

[libertybele]

...hmmm..... Well, the words used by Trump calls for a new election and that equates to a 'do over'.

Don't get my wrong, I like Trump and think that he made an excellent President and I'd like to see him run another 4 years; but IMO he sounds like he is becoming unhinged and the leftists are finally getting to him.  Just my opinion here.

[roamer_1]

That is NOT the remedy. No such remedy exists.
The states certified.

Certified means done. Set in stone. Tough sh*t, too bad, there it is.
That is what cert is *FOR*.
Biteme is the duly elected POTUS.

The only remedy beyond that is investigation and prosecution as a civil matter. And tightening up the election rules so it doesn't happen again.

[DCPatriot]

   I just lived through 4 years of Trump.  For America to give him another 4 years to fix this $hit is just insane.  Realizing that this Country has digressed into unchartered territory leaves me very little hope. @libertybele

   It would be suicidal for DeSantis to make any public statement about 2024. 
   Maybe Cruz will develop the courage, again, for Round 2 with a wounded Trump in the Arena, afterall.  DeSantis is the Answer.

Put down the bong and back away slowly @corbe

He has already proven he's capable of turning this country around in less than one term.

You've had a ringside seat here the past 7 years and haven't learned a damned thing.  As soon as you think you see an opening, your hatred for him shines through.

You and @roamer_1 and a couple of others here have no credibility when it comes to President Trump.

[catfish1957]

...hmmm..... Well, the words used by Trump calls for a new election and that equates to a 'do over'.

Don't get my wrong, I like Trump and think that he made an excellent President and I'd like to see him run another 4 years; but IMO he sounds like he is becoming unhinged and the leftists are finally getting to him.  Just my opinion here.

100% agreement.  I'll crawl through glass November 2024 to vote for either Trump or DeSantis.  It's just some here try rationalize bizarre Trump behavior for some other motive.

Some just can't fight through the delusion that Trump is flawed in some areas, and immune from snapping under the pressure.

I know I'd be pressed to be able to cope.