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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #50 on: August 27, 2022, 06:27:54 pm »
Well, the NYT is nothing I ever read and accept as gospel. 

But I looked around and the story was being covered pretty thoroughly.

By "story", you mean the NYTimes story itself, not the events described within.  Because I haven't seen you post a single media report that corroborates their claims.


The dispute from what I can read is that the times hinted that this was due to money troubles.

And the only source for what you read (with zero evidence backing it) is the NYTimes.


That, from what I can tell, is what the NRSC is disputing.

They pulled the ads from the battleground states to use it other places.

A lie.  That is not at all what the NRSC said.


Chris Hartline keeps denying things...but he'll never say they didn't pull ads in the state.

And you keep obfuscating.  'Pulling ads' is not the same as 'pulling funding' which is the claim you made.


Of course this is "fake news", as I said, everyone is publishing it.

The NYTimes is the only one publishing it.  The others simply reference the NYTimes report.  This is a favorite tactic of the Left, one which you seem to have an uncanny familiarity with.
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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #51 on: August 27, 2022, 08:45:14 pm »
Didn't you post you were unhappy about Blake changing the content on his campaign website?

I said I don't ignore it when people are disingenuous.

That doesn't change that in my mind. 

He's still more suspect.

Doesn't mean I can't accept his modified approach.

He's taking a beating over it (and he should). 

Plus he's added clarrifications that are helpful.

My question is why he didn't do this to begin with ? 

Was he pandering to the anti-abortion crowd ? 

What does he TRULY believe. 

His statements are, as I said, reasonable. 

If they had been in place at the start, no problem for me.

If he doesn't change them (even though I am not toally on board), no problem for me.
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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #52 on: August 27, 2022, 09:37:52 pm »
@HikerGuy83 Vote for him or not.   :shrug:

That's all I can ask, and I'm cool with that.
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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #53 on: August 27, 2022, 10:51:40 pm »
@HikerGuy83 Vote for him or not.   :shrug:

That's all I can ask, and I'm cool with that.

Oh, I plan to vote for him.

Just because I don't like what he did does not mean I'd walk away from him.

I am not a fan of Lake either.

But better her than Hobbs. 

I'll be voting for Lake too. 

No candidate is perfect (I've made my feelings about Trump knowns but I voted for him twice and would do it again (in the given years...not today).

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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #54 on: August 27, 2022, 10:53:43 pm »
If that happens, we better pray for Clarence Thomas's health.

Why?  If the DNC gets the Senate, they’ll simply expand the Court by adding enough ideologically left “justices” to permanently remake the Constitution. 

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« Reply #55 on: August 28, 2022, 01:53:38 am »
Why?  If the DNC gets the Senate, they’ll simply expand the Court by adding enough ideologically left “justices” to permanently remake the Constitution. 

I don't think they have the appetite for that in all of their members. 

But, the best thing would be if Arizona would get two GOP senators in D.C. 

Right now, however, it ain't looking good for Masters. 

There is work to be done.


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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #56 on: August 28, 2022, 02:43:47 am »
I don't think they have the appetite for that in all of their members. 

But, the best thing would be if Arizona would get two GOP senators in D.C. 

Right now, however, it ain't looking good for Masters. 

There is work to be done.

McMasters dropped a "softball" last night on Ingraham's program.

Was into interview railing against Biden agenda, but called the 87,000 agents added "DHS" rather than "IRS"

Is that the norm for him?
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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #57 on: August 28, 2022, 03:20:12 am »
McMasters dropped a "softball" last night on Ingraham's program.

Was into interview railing against Biden agenda, but called the 87,000 agents added "DHS" rather than "IRS"

Is that the norm for him?

I truly don't know.

But he is getting attention all over the country for some of the things he has said in the past.

Not that it matters.....

He needs to win AZ.

And right now, he's in an uphill battle in almost every way.

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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #58 on: September 03, 2022, 02:01:15 am »
I get Youtube ads (I listen to music at work) are now targeting Black Masters on his abortion stance. 

I think he's doing a little better in what polling there is going on.

I hope so.

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« Reply #59 on: September 03, 2022, 02:15:22 am »
So, the National Republican Senatorial Committee cuts and runs when the going gets tough?  What cowardly wusses.
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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #60 on: September 03, 2022, 04:22:40 am »
I get Youtube ads (I listen to music at work) are now targeting Black Masters on his abortion stance. 


An aside, I know... But, d00d...

On whatever you're using, install Firefox (or other) with Ublock Origin addon, and you'll not see a YooToob ad ever again... Jussayin.

Don't use the Youtube app... The minute you are in a browser instead, all that goes away.

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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #61 on: September 03, 2022, 01:48:57 pm »
So, the National Republican Senatorial Committee cuts and runs when the going gets tough?  What cowardly wusses.

The NRSC is not cutting and running.  They are still funding Masters with millions.  Only Mitch McConnell's private PAC is not funding Masters.  The story is bogus, because Turtle's PAC was never going to run ads, so there are no ads to pull.

Don't fall for this, @DefiantMassRINO.
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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #62 on: September 03, 2022, 06:14:55 pm »
An aside, I know... But, d00d...

On whatever you're using, install Firefox (or other) with Ublock Origin addon, and you'll not see a YooToob ad ever again... Jussayin.

Don't use the Youtube app... The minute you are in a browser instead, all that goes away.

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Thanks.

I'll look into it.

I don't mind adds since it makes money for some people (I think).

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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #63 on: September 03, 2022, 06:26:06 pm »
So, the National Republican Senatorial Committee cuts and runs when the going gets tough?  What cowardly wusses.

It was reported that the money was being redirected from AZ and 3 other races to races they needed to secure.

The NYSlimes intonated that it was because of financial issues. 

Something the RNSC denies. 

They have never explicitly denied rerouting the money (that I've read....and they've chose their words of denial very very carefully).

Lost in the yelling of this thread.....

1. The RNSC has already spent a bunch of money....much more than the dems.
2. I posted an article from Fox where they say the RNSC, in response the outcry, came back to the four races and are buying ad time again.

The last check with OpenSecrets shows:

Kelly having 30 million, having spent almost 30 million....he's all over the place.

Masters has les that 2 million having spend 3.5 million.....

Why is there such a huge freaking difference ?

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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #64 on: September 03, 2022, 06:27:48 pm »
One other thing.

The 538 needle has not moved.

All of Kelly's spending isn't widening the gap.

Frankly, the hit pieces on Masters are pretty lame.

Masters is still down 8 points. 

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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #65 on: September 03, 2022, 06:50:13 pm »
Kelly having 30 million, having spent almost 30 million....he's all over the place.

Masters has les that 2 million having spend 3.5 million.....

Why is there such a huge freaking difference ?

Democrat megadonors are pouring cash into Kelly's campaign like Niagara Falls.  Almost none of Mark Kelly's donations are from in-state.
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« Reply #66 on: September 03, 2022, 07:51:12 pm »
Thanks.

I'll look into it.

I don't mind adds since it makes money for some people (I think).

 :shrug: Suit yourself.  :beer:


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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #67 on: September 03, 2022, 08:03:24 pm »
One other thing.

The 538 needle has not moved.

All of Kelly's spending isn't widening the gap.

Frankly, the hit pieces on Masters are pretty lame.

Masters is still down 8 points.

A lot of the gloss is off the Nate Silver rose.  He had one great election and has been sliding down the partisan path ever since.  Now, he's just a Zogby.
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« Reply #68 on: September 03, 2022, 08:19:57 pm »
A lot of the gloss is off the Nate Silver rose.  He had one great election and has been sliding down the partisan path ever since.  Now, he's just a Zogby.

Invariably polls cannot be trusted from mid summer to mid October as the professional painters try to influence favor, thinking to lead the electorate by the nose and get them on the bandwagon.

I would pay them no mind till the first or second week in October, when the statistical numbers need to drift back toward reality, less the pollster is too far off by the time the actual counts come in.

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« Reply #69 on: September 04, 2022, 04:21:24 am »
Invariably polls cannot be trusted from mid summer to mid October as the professional painters try to influence favor, thinking to lead the electorate by the nose and get them on the bandwagon.

I would pay them no mind till the first or second week in October, when the statistical numbers need to drift back toward reality, less the pollster is too far off by the time the actual counts come in.


Things do typically change once it gets more serious. 

However, they do have some "relative" value in that what they gauge either shifts or it doesn't.   The accuaracy may be off, but the precision is pretty good. 

That said, we can only hope they shift in Masters direction. 

The polls have shown no "relative" change in the race following 30 million by Kelly's team. 

Let's hope that is a good sign.

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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #70 on: September 04, 2022, 04:22:55 am »
Biden's approval ratings are in the tank. 

I suspect those are pretty close to accurate.

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« Reply #71 on: September 07, 2022, 02:27:20 pm »
A lot of the gloss is off the Nate Silver rose.  He had one great election and has been sliding down the partisan path ever since.  Now, he's just a Zogby.

He's not bad when Trump isn't involved. Trump brought a lot of people out who never voted before.

Take him with a grain of salt like all the others. I follow RCP average, 538, Cook political report, etc. etc. These people aren't God and they were wrong. But in standard boring elections (where people like Trump don't run) they often aren't.

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« Reply #72 on: September 07, 2022, 05:12:26 pm »
He's not bad when Trump isn't involved. Trump brought a lot of people out who never voted before.

Take him with a grain of salt like all the others. I follow RCP average, 538, Cook political report, etc. etc. These people aren't God and they were wrong. But in standard boring elections (where people like Trump don't run) they often aren't.

Wave bye-bye to boring elections.
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« Reply #73 on: September 07, 2022, 05:34:42 pm »
Wave bye-bye to boring elections.

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Trump won't live forever.

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« Reply #74 on: September 07, 2022, 05:55:56 pm »
:shrug:

Trump won't live forever.

Correct, but the Rats are on a never-ending search for the next Trump to blame all the world's ills upon.
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