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« Reply #975 on: November 01, 2022, 09:55:43 pm »
Most likely a gag, since the Pskov Oblast in Russia is hundreds of km from Ukraine, and to-date, as far as we know, Ukraine is not making military forays that deep into Russia.

On the other hand, the reporting from the Daily Mail, which doesn't typically engage in such larks, indicates that Ukraine is claiming it shot the helicopters down over Kherson, which is definitely within Ukraine's own territory.

Unable to see the link in @240B 's post (because of VPN).  But from my understanding, the sabotage attack on the base near Estonia was on the ground, not in the air.  There's a link up thread on it:  https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,478214.msg2731142.html#msg2731142


My bad.  Apparently, they claim that they did engage in a sabotage mission in the Pskov region, which is hundreds of km from Ukraine proper.

Source:  https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/10/31/ukrainian-saboteurs-reportedly-blew-up-russian-helicopters-500-miles-from-ukraine/?sh=5da150d2b8f9

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« Reply #976 on: November 01, 2022, 09:59:33 pm »
I would guess there's quite a few people with Ukrainian heritage in the Russian armed forces.

Hard to protect things from those people.

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« Reply #977 on: November 01, 2022, 10:34:48 pm »
Ukrainian Air Force says it has no effective defense against ballistic missiles Iran plans to ship to Russia

 Ukraine’s Air Force on Tuesday said it currently has no effective defense against the types of ballistic missile that Iran is preparing to ship to Russia to use in its war against Ukraine.

Yuriy Ihnat, spokesperson for Ukraine’s Air Force Command, said the range of the Iranian ballistic missiles being supplied, with “one having a range of 300km the other 700km,” will allow Russian forces to strike anywhere inside Ukraine.

“There is a high probability that they will be delivered to the north above Ukraine [border], from where they can be launched to threaten the entire Ukraine,” Ihnat said at a press conference in Kyiv on Tuesday.

Earlier on Tuesday, CNN reported that Iran is preparing to send about 1,000 additional weapons, including surface-to-surface short range ballistic missiles and more attack drones for Russia to use against Ukraine.

Asked whether Ukraine’s Armed Forces were ready to defend against these types of Iranian ballistic missiles, Ihnat replied that they “will take all measures and means of protection against these missiles” that they can.

However, Ihnat warned “currently we have no effective defense against these missiles. It is theoretically possible to shoot them down, but it is very difficult to do it with the means we currently have.”  ............

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-11-01-22#h_a3c9a4c6cbf1a7db4aa447563f868979
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« Reply #978 on: November 01, 2022, 10:38:35 pm »
What an inverted world...

Russia has to buy missiles from Iran...

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« Reply #979 on: November 01, 2022, 10:52:41 pm »
What an inverted world...

Russia has to buy missiles from Iran...

...and the Iranian materiel is superior to Russian.
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« Reply #980 on: November 01, 2022, 11:05:13 pm »

...and the Iranian materiel is superior to Russian.
That is the Greatest gain for the West in all of this. Russia has been exposed as a third world nation stuck in a nostalgia from 50-60 years ago.

Not only are the Iranians, Indians, Chinese, even the Taliban can beat them with the $85 billion dollar gift Biden and his crew gifted them. Russians are yesterday's threat. The 'real' threat today, even to Russia, is China, which is threatening the World.
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« Reply #981 on: November 01, 2022, 11:16:49 pm »
...and the Iranian materiel is superior to Russian.

One wonders if U.S. or Israeli air-defenses can shoot these Iranian missiles down.

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« Reply #982 on: November 02, 2022, 01:29:29 am »
One wonders if U.S. or Israeli air-defenses can shoot these Iranian missiles down.
Of course we can jam or destroy them. They are all based on American technology given to them by their 'brother' Obama, who is himself like them a Shi'a Muslim. (although he is non-practicing most of the time)
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« Reply #983 on: November 02, 2022, 01:39:48 am »
...and the Iranian materiel is superior to Russian.

It ought to be.  Iran is employing US technology gifted to them by the Obama Administration.

Iran–U.S. RQ-170 incident
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« Reply #984 on: November 02, 2022, 05:04:57 am »
Ukraine 93rd Mechanized Brigade taking on Wagner nazis near Bakhmut


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« Reply #985 on: November 02, 2022, 11:55:24 am »
Footage shows 100 Russian recruits mutiny and refuse to be sent to Ukraine after learning £4,200 lump sum they were promised has NOT been paid to their families

By WILL STEWART FOR MAILONLINE
2 November 2022

Video shows a mutiny igniting in Ulyanovsk after more than 100 mobilised Russians refused to be sent to the frontline to fight against Ukraine.

The troops revolted because Vladimir Putin’s officials failed to pay a 'promised' payment of £4,200 to their families in the impoverished Chuvashia region, they claimed.

A female military officer is earlier seen remonstrating with the uniformed men, amid reports that national guards and OMON riot police were called in to suppress the insubordination.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11381053/Russian-recruits-mutiny-refuse-sent-Ukraine-4-200-NOT-paid-families.html


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« Reply #986 on: November 02, 2022, 12:50:31 pm »
Told you so:


U.S. Government Database Redacts Names Of Non-Profits Receiving Over $250 Million In Taxpayer-Funded Ukraine ‘Aid.’

NATALIE WINTERS  |  November 1, 2022


The federal government is hiding the names of non-profit groups receiving nine and eight-figure grants from the Biden administration during the Russia-Ukraine war.

ForeignAssistance.gov, the federal government’s flagship website tracking its foreign spending, itemized the nearly $3.2 billion that has been allocated to Ukraine for “economic development” and “humanitarian assistance” for fiscal year 2022. The grants come from a variety of agencies including the United States Agency for International Development, the Department of State, and the Department of Energy.

32 grants totaling nearly $300 million dollars, however, have identified their non-governmental organization (NGO) implementing partner as either “NGO – United States Redacted”; “NGO – Non United States Redacted”; or “NGO – International Redacted.”

For example, four grants totaling $100,000,000, $57,000,000, $43,000,000, and $10,000,000 to support “emergency humanitarian assistance” were allocated to unidentified NGOs.

A $7,900,000 grant sent to an unidentified NGO even saw its purpose redacted, pursuant to the “Exceptions Outlined in the Foreign Aid Transparency and Accountability Act of 2016.”

The only detail about the grant is that it aims to “support the Mission’s goal for an independent, prosperous, and healthy Ukraine united around core European values in one or more of the following sectors: strengthening of democratic governance, and more inclusive, sustainable, market-driven economic growth.”

https://warroom.org/2022/11/01/government-hides-names-of-ngos-receiving-100-million-grants/



This is some of the money that Biden hails as going to help Ukraine win the war.  But it went to the State Department, USAID, and the Department of Energy instead.
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« Reply #987 on: November 02, 2022, 01:14:45 pm »
Told you so:


U.S. Government Database Redacts Names Of Non-Profits Receiving Over $250 Million In Taxpayer-Funded Ukraine ‘Aid.’

NATALIE WINTERS  |  November 1, 2022


The federal government is hiding the names of non-profit groups receiving nine and eight-figure grants from the Biden administration during the Russia-Ukraine war.

ForeignAssistance.gov, the federal government’s flagship website tracking its foreign spending, itemized the nearly $3.2 billion that has been allocated to Ukraine for “economic development” and “humanitarian assistance” for fiscal year 2022. The grants come from a variety of agencies including the United States Agency for International Development, the Department of State, and the Department of Energy.

32 grants totaling nearly $300 million dollars, however, have identified their non-governmental organization (NGO) implementing partner as either “NGO – United States Redacted”; “NGO – Non United States Redacted”; or “NGO – International Redacted.”

For example, four grants totaling $100,000,000, $57,000,000, $43,000,000, and $10,000,000 to support “emergency humanitarian assistance” were allocated to unidentified NGOs.

A $7,900,000 grant sent to an unidentified NGO even saw its purpose redacted, pursuant to the “Exceptions Outlined in the Foreign Aid Transparency and Accountability Act of 2016.”

The only detail about the grant is that it aims to “support the Mission’s goal for an independent, prosperous, and healthy Ukraine united around core European values in one or more of the following sectors: strengthening of democratic governance, and more inclusive, sustainable, market-driven economic growth.”

https://warroom.org/2022/11/01/government-hides-names-of-ngos-receiving-100-million-grants/



This is some of the money that Biden hails as going to help Ukraine win the war.  But it went to the State Department, USAID, and the Department of Energy instead.

Slush funds?

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« Reply #988 on: November 02, 2022, 01:28:25 pm »
Purged and pepsied, the new Russian Standard?
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« Reply #989 on: November 02, 2022, 02:15:14 pm »
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« Reply #990 on: November 02, 2022, 02:19:26 pm »
Terrified Russia: Antidepressant sales surge as military mobilisation brings reality of Ukraine war home - seeing 400,000 flee the country to avoid conscription.. but there's no sign of Putin toppling yet, Western officials reveal

By CHRIS PLEASANCE FOR MAILONLINE
2 November 2022

Antidepressant sales in Russia have skyrocketed as the miserable reality of Putin's war in Ukraine finally dawns on the public, Western officials have said.

Russians spent 70 per cent more on the pills in the first eight months of this year compared to last, even though they spent much of 2021 in Covid lockdowns, figures have shown.

'Russians feel frightened' as the 'catastrophic error' of Putin's invasion - including conscription and a tanking economy - begin to hit people's lives, the officials added.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11381667/Sales-antidepressants-soar-Russia-reality-Ukraine-war-bites.html

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« Reply #991 on: November 02, 2022, 09:05:53 pm »
The Joe Biden, Putin, Xi, socialist world utopia is here!  All it took was making fools out of enough Americans last Presidential election.  Are you useful fools enjoying your useful foolery now?  Add in co-vid mindless hysteria and nasty toxic vaccines, quite deadly like a Germ warfare against by our President lock stepping with his most favored nation, China/Xi.  How many useful fools does it take to destroy the most powerful nation the world has ever seen?  Esp from without and within?
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« Reply #992 on: November 02, 2022, 11:53:32 pm »
SICKLY VLAD  Bombshell leaked spy docs suggest Putin DOES have Parkinson’s and cancer… and is ‘stuffed full of steroids’

https://www.thesun.ie/news/9658645/putin-parkinsons-pancreatic-cancer-russian-insider-reveals/

BOMBSHELL leaked spy documents appear to confirm Vladimir Putin does have early stage Parkinson's disease and pancreatic cancer.

The 70-year-old Russian tyrant's health has long been the source of speculation - with Western intelligence suggesting he has serious health issues.

Rumours of the president's ill health have been swirling for years - and he is believed to be followed by a team of doctors who carefully monitor his health.

There have been Western claims about Putin’s health, notably from ex-MI6 head Sir Richard Dearlove, who said the Russian leader faces being sent to a sanatorium, and will be gone by 2023, due to medical issues.

The tyrant was recently pictured with suspected track marks from IV treatment on the back of his hand - amid rumours he's suffering from cancer and crippling pain.

And in emails now seen by The Sun Online, a Russian intelligence source close to the Kremlin appeared to confirm Putin has been diagnosed with early stage Parkinson's and pancreatic cancer.

They said there are also rumours he now has prostate cancer.

"I can confirm he has been diagnosed with early stage Parkinson's disease, but it's already progressing," the Russian security services insider claimed in the email.

"This fact will be denied in every possible way and hidden.

"Putin is regularly stuffed with all kinds of heavy steroids and innovative painkilling injections to stop the spread of pancreatic cancer he was recently diagnosed with.

"It not only causes a lot of pain, Putin has a state of puffiness of the face and other side effects - including memory lapses.

"In his close circle, there are rumours that in addition to pancreatic cancer, which is gradually spreading, Putin also has prostate cancer."

Kremlin officials have always denied there is anything wrong with their leader.

Putin has long prided himself on his "strongman" image - but his dramatic change over the past few years has prompted speculation that he may be suffering from a severe physical illness.

His public appearances during the Ukraine war have shown him out of breath, stumbling over his words, or looking exhausted.

Earlier this month, Putin appeared to be visibly in pain during a parade in Moscow's Red Square to celebrate breaking international law to annex four regions of Ukraine.

More at link.




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« Reply #993 on: November 02, 2022, 11:54:53 pm »
https://www.thesun.ie/news/9658645/putin-parkinsons-pancreatic-cancer-russian-insider-reveals/

The Russian president has repeatedly raised the spectre of using nuke weapons - and it's feared he could potentially be lining up a test in the Black Sea.

Game theory specialist Georgy Egorov warned a nuclear strike "makes sense" for Putin if he only has a few months to live.

He told Novaya Gazeta: "It makes sense to use nuclear weapons for Putin in only one situation - if the rumours about his health problems are true - if he has a few months left to live - he does not want to go down in history as a loser."

It comes after a video exposed a mysterious mark on Putin's hand as he tried to grasp a Russian soldier's arm last month.

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« Reply #994 on: November 03, 2022, 02:31:23 am »
Told you so:


U.S. Government Database Redacts Names Of Non-Profits Receiving Over $250 Million In Taxpayer-Funded Ukraine ‘Aid.’

NATALIE WINTERS  |  November 1, 2022


The federal government is hiding the names of non-profit groups receiving nine and eight-figure grants from the Biden administration during the Russia-Ukraine war.

ForeignAssistance.gov, the federal government’s flagship website tracking its foreign spending, itemized the nearly $3.2 billion that has been allocated to Ukraine for “economic development” and “humanitarian assistance” for fiscal year 2022. The grants come from a variety of agencies including the United States Agency for International Development, the Department of State, and the Department of Energy.

32 grants totaling nearly $300 million dollars, however, have identified their non-governmental organization (NGO) implementing partner as either “NGO – United States Redacted”; “NGO – Non United States Redacted”; or “NGO – International Redacted.”

For example, four grants totaling $100,000,000, $57,000,000, $43,000,000, and $10,000,000 to support “emergency humanitarian assistance” were allocated to unidentified NGOs.

A $7,900,000 grant sent to an unidentified NGO even saw its purpose redacted, pursuant to the “Exceptions Outlined in the Foreign Aid Transparency and Accountability Act of 2016.”

The only detail about the grant is that it aims to “support the Mission’s goal for an independent, prosperous, and healthy Ukraine united around core European values in one or more of the following sectors: strengthening of democratic governance, and more inclusive, sustainable, market-driven economic growth.”

https://warroom.org/2022/11/01/government-hides-names-of-ngos-receiving-100-million-grants/



This is some of the money that Biden hails as going to help Ukraine win the war.  But it went to the State Department, USAID, and the Department of Energy instead.


Let's see if a Pub Congress has the will to put and end to this. Talk's cheap deeds are precious.
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« Reply #995 on: November 03, 2022, 02:32:57 am »
Slush funds?

I can't help but wonder how much of this money ended up in Rat campaign funds. Money is fundgible.
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« Reply #996 on: November 03, 2022, 02:52:51 am »
I can't help but wonder how much of this money ended up in Rat campaign funds. Money is fundgible.

A hell of a lot of it.  And Republicans are too stupid to do anything about it.

Rafael Warnock has only been in the Senate for two years.  Yet his campaign raised over $100 million dollars this election cycle.  Mark Kelly in Arizona?  Also only two years.  Yet he managed to raise over $80 million.  No Republican candidate comes anywhere close to that.

Fetterman?  $60 million.  Tim Ryan?  $50 million.  Mandela Barnes?  $35 million.  In each of these races, the Democrat has raised far more money than their Republican opponents.  And all of it came from the massive spending packages enacted since Biden took over.  Massive corruption.  And Republican have been completely silent.

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« Reply #997 on: November 03, 2022, 09:03:40 am »
A hell of a lot of it.  And Republicans are too stupid to do anything about it.

Rafael Warnock has only been in the Senate for two years.  Yet his campaign raised over $100 million dollars this election cycle.  Mark Kelly in Arizona?  Also only two years.  Yet he managed to raise over $80 million.  No Republican candidate comes anywhere close to that.

Fetterman?  $60 million.  Tim Ryan?  $50 million.  Mandela Barnes?  $35 million.  In each of these races, the Democrat has raised far more money than their Republican opponents.  And all of it came from the massive spending packages enacted since Biden took over.  Massive corruption.  And Republican have been completely silent.



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« Reply #998 on: November 03, 2022, 11:26:47 am »
Russian conscripts are resorting to 'playing dead on the battlefield' as they are sent in to fight with poor equipment and insufficient training

By MAILONLINE REPORTER
2 November 2022

Russian conscripts are resorting to 'playing dead on the battlefield' as they are sent to fight in Ukraine with poor equipment and insufficient training. The wife of a Russian man sent to fight in Moscow’s 423rd Guards Motor Rifle Regiment said that her husband and his fellow conscripts pretended to be dead, as they only had machine guns to defend themselves. He and others are facing court martial after leaving the frontline in Ukraine. Pictured: File photo of Russian recruits.

It comes as antidepressant sales in Russia skyrocketed as the miserable reality of Putin's war in Ukraine finally dawns on the public, Western officials said. Russians spent 70 per cent more on the pills in the first eight months of this year compared to last, even though they spent much of 2021 in Covid lockdowns, figures have shown. 'Russians feel frightened' as the 'catastrophic error' of Vladimir Putin's invasion - including conscription and a tanking economy - begin to hit people's lives, the officials added. At least 400,000 have fled since Putin announced he would begin drafting people into the army in September, significantly more than the 300,000 he added to his ranks. Pictured: An anti-war protest in Saint-Petersburg, Russia in March.

Ekaterina said that her 27-year-old husband was trained in trench digging before being moved to the front line. She told independent Russian outlet Novaya Gazeta Europe: 'For many hours they simply lay on the ground and pretended to be dead for one simple reason: they no longer had any weapons other than machine guns. There were mortars against them, drones flew over them, if they even moved a finger, then a drone would immediately fly in and destroy them.'

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/galleries/article-11383181/Russian-conscripts-resorting-playing-dead-battlefield.html

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« Reply #999 on: November 03, 2022, 01:10:32 pm »
From the article:
Officials say there is no sign that Putin has decided to change course in Ukraine and no sign that anyone is preparing to replace him. Russia is now into its ninth month of fighting in Ukraine and has failed to achieve any of the military objectives set by Putin at the start of the war. The Kremlin thought it was getting involved in an easy conflict that would take days to resolve and had 'no Plan B' for what to do if the war went awry, officials said. 'They still don't have Plan B,' the officials added.


Spot on.  They are still operating off the 15-day plan they initiated last winter.
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