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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2200 on: March 23, 2023, 04:52:05 pm »
The internet says some BIG announcement coming tomorrow. Increased mobilizations is my guess.

"March 23 starting point" In Moscow, there was such an advertisement calling for people tomorrow to follow the news. Prepare yourself for the most delusional bullshit that has ever been presented, or more mobilizations.
"March 23 starting point" In Moscow, there was such an advertisement calling for people tomorrow to follow the news. Prepare yourself for the most delusional bullshit that has ever been presented, or more mobilizations.
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2201 on: March 23, 2023, 05:09:10 pm »
@Maj. Bill Martin

Isn't building things to the minimum specifications pretty much  Communist dogma?

Well, the exteriors they they build to at least minimum specifications.  The interiors they sometimes don't do even that.

It's like in construction where you have a great looking home from the outside, but the materials and construction are poor because some of the workers are stealing time or materials.

This was less of a problem in the past where tanks were simpler, and there were fewer components on which to cut corners.  Also, the Russian army is far smaller than the older Soviet army, so there just aren't as many people to do the maintenance on all the equipment that was kept in reserved.
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2202 on: March 23, 2023, 05:10:29 pm »
The internet says some BIG announcement coming tomorrow. Increased mobilizations is my guess.

"March 23 starting point" In Moscow, there was such an advertisement calling for people tomorrow to follow the news. Prepare yourself for the most delusional bullshit that has ever been presented, or more mobilizations.
"March 23 starting point" In Moscow, there was such an advertisement calling for people tomorrow to follow the news. Prepare yourself for the most delusional bullshit that has ever been presented, or more mobilizations.


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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2203 on: March 24, 2023, 10:51:00 am »
Freed - the kidnapped kids Putin 'tried to beat the Ukrainian out of': Overjoyed children embrace family as they finally get back home after MONTHS in brutal Kremlin 'camps' - but thousands remain missing as war crimes warrant awaits Russian President

Officials in Kyiv say the children had been placed in institutions in Crimea
Russian President Vladimir Putin is accused of overseeing the deportations 

By DARREN BOYLE FOR MAILONLINE and AFP
23 March 2023

A group of Ukrainian children kidnapped by Russian authorities and held in Kremlin-backed camps for months have been freed and returned home to emotional reunions.

The 17 youngsters were taken to Russian-occupied Crimea when their towns were overrun by Moscow's forces, and were told their families had abandoned them.

A charity yesterday returned the first of the snatched children to their homes, where they told how Russians beat them with iron rods if they voiced support for Kyiv.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11897141/Freed-Ukrainian-children-kidnapped-Russia-tell-year-long-ordeal.html

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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2204 on: March 24, 2023, 06:31:53 pm »
Ukraine trolls Russia for tapping Steven Seagal to train recruits

By Snejana Farberov
March 24, 2023

Steven Seagal is a running joke in Ukraine.

Kyiv’s military mercilessly mocked the aging action star — and staunch supporter of Russian President Vladimir Putin — after it was reported that he will help train military recruits at a new martial arts center in Moscow.

“Rumor has it that the Seagal-style running technique will be included in the training,” Ukraine’s Ministry of Defense tweeted Thursday.

“[R]ussian soldiers will now be able to run away from their positions with weird hand motions.”

The Russian state-run news agency TASS reported Saturday that the 70-year-old Seagal, who became a Russian citizen in 2016, appeared as a guest of honor at the ribbon-cutting ceremony unveiling the new Typhoon All-Russian Aikido Center.

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2023/03/24/ukraine-trolls-russia-over-steven-seagal/

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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2205 on: March 24, 2023, 06:33:52 pm »
Russia has Steven Seagal, Ukraine has Sean Penn and Ben Stiller.
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2206 on: March 24, 2023, 06:34:39 pm »
Russia has Steven Seagal, Ukraine has Sean Penn and Ben Stiller.

Are Sean Penn and Ben Stiller training recruits?

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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2207 on: March 24, 2023, 06:38:18 pm »
Are Sean Penn and Ben Stiller training recruits?
Good grief. It was a joke.
Penn was there to give fashion advice.
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2208 on: March 24, 2023, 06:52:36 pm »
Good grief. It was a joke.
Penn was there to give fashion advice.


No worries!

It's good for a laugh.  Certainly Segal shouldn't be given any more weight than Penn or Stiller would be given.

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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2209 on: March 24, 2023, 10:46:01 pm »
Freed - the kidnapped kids Putin 'tried to beat the Ukrainian out of': Overjoyed children embrace family as they finally get back home after MONTHS in brutal Kremlin 'camps' - but thousands remain missing as war crimes warrant awaits Russian President

Officials in Kyiv say the children had been placed in institutions in Crimea
Russian President Vladimir Putin is accused of overseeing the deportations 

By DARREN BOYLE FOR MAILONLINE and AFP
23 March 2023

A group of Ukrainian children kidnapped by Russian authorities and held in Kremlin-backed camps for months have been freed and returned home to emotional reunions.

The 17 youngsters were taken to Russian-occupied Crimea when their towns were overrun by Moscow's forces, and were told their families had abandoned them.

A charity yesterday returned the first of the snatched children to their homes, where they told how Russians beat them with iron rods if they voiced support for Kyiv.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11897141/Freed-Ukrainian-children-kidnapped-Russia-tell-year-long-ordeal.html

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Anyone have any idea what brought their release about? Doesn't sound to me like anything Pooty Poot would want to do.

After all,the replacement troops for all the teen Russians he is getting killled in Ukraine have to come from somewhere,and the Soviets have had strict restrictions on how many children you can have.
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2210 on: March 24, 2023, 10:48:40 pm »
Ukraine trolls Russia for tapping Steven Seagal to train recruits

By Snejana Farberov
March 24, 2023

Steven Seagal is a running joke in Ukraine.

Kyiv’s military mercilessly mocked the aging action star — and staunch supporter of Russian President Vladimir Putin — after it was reported that he will help train military recruits at a new martial arts center in Moscow.

“Rumor has it that the Seagal-style running technique will be included in the training,” Ukraine’s Ministry of Defense tweeted Thursday.

“[R]ussian soldiers will now be able to run away from their positions with weird hand motions.”

The Russian state-run news agency TASS reported Saturday that the 70-year-old Seagal, who became a Russian citizen in 2016, appeared as a guest of honor at the ribbon-cutting ceremony unveiling the new Typhoon All-Russian Aikido Center.

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2023/03/24/ukraine-trolls-russia-over-steven-seagal/

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WTF???

This is the first I heard of this. What  was he doing,trying to be more popular in Hollywood so he could get a job?
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2211 on: March 25, 2023, 12:24:13 am »
Russia has Steven Seagal, Ukraine has Sean Penn and Ben Stiller.

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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2212 on: March 25, 2023, 05:09:31 am »
Starlink is key to Ukrainian operations, but the Russians 'will find you' if you use it too long, soldier says

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/starlink-is-key-to-ukrainian-operations-but-the-russians-will-find-you-if-you-use-it-too-long-soldier-says/ar-AA192xJG?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=2d620af464314c8298c571e12198343b&ei=14

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Starlink has been key to Ukrainian operations and has played a role in their successes on the battlefield, allowing troops to coordinate attacks and communicate with each other, but one soldier told Defense One that if you use the service for too long, there's a chance the Russians "will find you."

The soldier, who goes by the call sign "Boris," said that his team only uses the internet and communications service when it's absolutely necessary. And when they're conducting action behind enemy lines, they have limited time to set up the portable Starlink internet dish, complete their operation, and disperse before they're located by Russian forces.

The Russians "will find you," Boris told Defense One. "You need to do it fast, then get out of there."

Part of the reason the soldiers tend to find themselves in this race against time is the Russians' advanced tracking equipment, but the Starlink terminals are also vulnerable to tracking and jamming. The latter is happening more often, thanks to either more investment from the Russians or more advanced equipment.

Troops say that there are some ways to prevent Russians from interfering with the service, such as placing a Starlink device behind a dirt or concrete barrier to prevent jamming signals. Some soldiers have figured out that putting it in a hole can help too.
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2213 on: March 26, 2023, 02:19:29 pm »
Vladimir Putin forces his cannon-fodder conscripts to remain at frontline with threat of a bullet in the head from his 'retreat-blocking detachment' if they flee to save their lives in Ukraine

By OLIVER PRICE
25 March 2023

Vladimir Putin's commanders are forcing his conscript soldiers at gunpoint to remain at the frontline.

They are using a brutal Stalin tactic to prevent Russian reservist troops leaving their positions, say men who have seen the horror of the cannon-fodder killing fields.

'People are abandoned in the trenches as if homeless and littered with corpses,' complained Russian reservist draftees in a new video appealing directly to Vladimir Putin.

'Retreat-blocking detachments were set up against us and they did not let us out of positions.'

They are forced at gunpoint to remain in position, a tactic used by Stalin's cruel SMERSH secret police in World War Two.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11901473/Putin-forces-Russian-conscripts-remain-frontline-death-threats-flee-Ukraine.html

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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2214 on: March 26, 2023, 04:46:48 pm »
Vladimir Putin forces his cannon-fodder conscripts to remain at frontline with threat of a bullet in the head from his 'retreat-blocking detachment' if they flee to save their lives in Ukraine

 

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This is,and has always been Soviet doctrine. Look up "NKVD Blocking Squads".
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2215 on: March 26, 2023, 06:15:44 pm »
Ukraine war: Battle for Bakhmut 'stabilising', says commander

By Kathryn Armstrong
BBC News
March 25, 2023

The battle for Bakhmut, the Ukrainian city which Russia has spent months trying to capture, is "stabilising", says Ukraine's commander-in-chief.

Valerii Zaluzhnyi said Ukrainian troops' "tremendous efforts" were holding back Russia.

Earlier this month, Western officials estimated between 20,000 and 30,000 Russian troops had been killed or injured in Bakhmut since last summer.

Moscow is eager for a victory after failing to make major recent gains.

Despite this, military analysts believe Bakhmut has little strategic value, with the city's importance now symbolic.

The high number of Russian casualties may be the main reason Ukraine has not withdrawn from the city, analysts say.

On Facebook, Lt Gen Zaluzhnyi said that while the situation on Ukraine's frontlines "is the toughest in the Bakhmut direction... due to the tremendous efforts of the defence forces, we are managing to stabilise the situation".

Lt Gen Zaluzhnyi posted after speaking to the UK's Chief of Defence Staff, Admiral Sir Tony Radakin, about the situation in Ukraine.

His comments are the latest positive signal from Ukrainian officials about the long battle for Bakhmut.

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Source:  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65072173

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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2216 on: March 26, 2023, 06:19:02 pm »
Vladimir Putin forces his cannon-fodder conscripts to remain at frontline with threat of a bullet in the head from his 'retreat-blocking detachment' if they flee to save their lives in Ukraine

By OLIVER PRICE
25 March 2023

Vladimir Putin's commanders are forcing his conscript soldiers at gunpoint to remain at the frontline.

They are using a brutal Stalin tactic to prevent Russian reservist troops leaving their positions, say men who have seen the horror of the cannon-fodder killing fields.

'People are abandoned in the trenches as if homeless and littered with corpses,' complained Russian reservist draftees in a new video appealing directly to Vladimir Putin.

'Retreat-blocking detachments were set up against us and they did not let us out of positions.'

They are forced at gunpoint to remain in position, a tactic used by Stalin's cruel SMERSH secret police in World War Two.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11901473/Putin-forces-Russian-conscripts-remain-frontline-death-threats-flee-Ukraine.html

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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2217 on: March 26, 2023, 09:46:49 pm »
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@libertybele

That has )ALWAYS been standard Soviet doctrine. They have NKVD "blocking  squads" following up the infantry  attacks in the rear that are armed with machine  guns,and their job is to execute  anyone they see stalling or retreating.

During WW-2 many of the "second line troops" (the ones right in front of the NKVD troops) weren't even armed. They were expected to pick up the dropped weapons of the dead assault troops and continue the assault.

Not that Pooty  Poot ever had  to worry about  this. Not only was he never an infantry soldier,he  was an  officer in Military Intelligence.
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2218 on: March 27, 2023, 12:38:17 am »
@libertybele
Not that Pooty  Poot ever had  to worry about  this. Not only was he never an infantry soldier,he  was an  officer in Military Intelligence.

Putin was a Lieutenant Colonel in the KGB actually, and the liaison to the Red Army Faction terrorist group in West Germany before seemingly getting out in 1991 (but in truth was re-assigned to spy on students at Leningrad State University).  His father served in a NKVD "Destruction Battalion" during World War II.
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2219 on: March 27, 2023, 02:09:25 am »
Putin was a Lieutenant Colonel in the KGB actually, and the liaison to the Red Army Faction terrorist group in West Germany before seemingly getting out in 1991 (but in truth was re-assigned to spy on students at Leningrad State University).  His father served in a NKVD "Destruction Battalion" during World War II.

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Correct me if I  am wrong but wasn't that the same thing?
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2220 on: March 27, 2023, 10:35:34 am »
@Timber Rattler

Correct me if I  am wrong but wasn't that the same thing?

Yeah, more or less.  A "scorched earth" and "motivational" unit to keep frontline Soviet troops from fleeing the fight, or else to mow them down, a la "Stalingrad."

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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2221 on: March 27, 2023, 12:04:40 pm »
Six Russian naval vessels 'were detected near site of Nord Stream pipeline five days before it was sabotaged'

By ELIZABETH HAIGH
26 March 2023

A convoy of six Russian naval vessels was spotted near the Nord Stream pipeline just five days before it was sabotaged, it was reported yesterday.

Three of the four pipelines carrying Russian gas to Germany were seriously damaged by explosions near the Danish island of Bornholm on September 26 last year, disrupting global supply.

Russia has always denied any responsibility for the attack, and blamed western powers or Ukrainian groups, but new information now suggests its ships were in the area in the days before the massive blasts.

It is thought that hundreds of kilograms of explosives and equipment would have been required to pull off the scale of the damage seen last September, which occurred 80m below sea level.

But it has now been claimed that a Swedish warship may have spotted the Russian convoy and tracked it, possibly being aware of it for as long as three days, The Times reports.

The Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines connecting Russia and Germany under the Baltic Sea were hit by a series of unexplained explosions last September, in what Moscow called an act of 'international terrorism'.

A report by open-source intelligence researchers now claims to have identified abnormal activity by a Danish patrol vessel and a Swedish warship, which may suggest they had spotted suspicious activity.

The researchers say the ships appeared to have seen something unusual on September 22 or 23, when they were allegedly tracking a contingent of Russian naval ships which had broken away from a larger exercise three days before.

These claims, first revealed in the German news site T-Online, originated from sources in the security services and detailed the convoy including two Russian tugs, a surveillance ship and a submarine rescue ship SS-750, built in 1990.

The SS-750 has its own mini-submarine, called the AS-26, which can reach depths of 80m and carry loads of up to 50kg.

'It would make absolute sense to use something like the AS-26 for such an attack,' Danish corvette captain and military analyst Johannes Riber told T-Online.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11904987/Six-Russian-naval-vessels-detected-near-site-Nord-Stream-pipeline-five-days-sabotage.html

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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2222 on: March 27, 2023, 05:13:47 pm »
So not so "far fetched" after all...

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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2223 on: March 27, 2023, 05:14:18 pm »
So not so "far fetched" after all...

Exactly.

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« Reply #2224 on: March 27, 2023, 07:10:18 pm »
The Russian reaction to the destruction of the pipeline was remarkably restrained.

As to why the Russians might have done it...when Cortes came to the New World, he burned his ships to signify to his men that there was no going back.  It could have been for Putin to quash any thought among other Russians that they could go back to a normal relationship with the West.

I've always thought the most likely scenarios was either that, or some non-national, anti-Russian group.

But the muted Russian reaction was really, really odd.