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Offline Kamaji

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World War Z - Neo-Fascist Russia
« on: May 11, 2023, 01:11:23 pm »
World War Z

A new book by historian Ian Garner investigates how the war in Ukraine is transforming Russia into a fascist society.

John Lloyd
10 May 2023

A review of Z Generation: Into the Heart of Russia’s Fascist Youth by Ian Garner, 256 pages, C Hurst & Co. (May 2023)

Russia’s fear of invasion is not quite senseless paranoia. The country has been invaded many times since the wave of onslaughts in the 13th and 14th centuries by the Mongol empire. These invasions came from the east and the south and were successful in subduing the Russians, who were then still stateless. More recent attacks, from the 16th century on, came from the Swedes, the Poles, the French, the Ottomans, and—most bloodily—the Germans. All of these left mountains of dead, but still failed.

An all-out invasion of that kind is very unlikely to happen today. If it did, Russia would likely retaliate by going nuclear. According to most estimations, Russia has more nuclear warheads—nearly 6,000—than any other country in the world, including the United States. The invasion Russia now fears is less tangible. It is more like an infection—an infection of democracy, of civil society, of the rule of law, of clean and accountable government. The president of Russia, Vladimir Putin, fears institutions like these above all else. He needs protection from them, and to prevent their influence and appeal from seeping into the minds of his country’s youth.

One of these protections—or so Putin believes—is Ukraine. Putin sees that country as a crucial physical bulwark against Western influence, but it has been a centre of the very influences he most fears for more than a decade. If Ukraine is to protect Russia from the West, the country as it presently stands must be destroyed. And for that, new generations of Russia must be persuaded of both its future importance and its present danger.

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That war’s ebb and flow still commands our news and our fears. We know much less about how the conflict has been transforming Russia itself. And according to a new book of close reporting by historian Ian Garner, Russia is using every device of the modern media to create a fascist society, developed and deepened by young men and women, teenagers, and even children, who are having a whale of a time.

Garner’s book is titled Z Generation: Into the Heart of Russia’s Fascist Youth. The “Z” in the title refers to a symbol that has become something like an equivalent of the Nazi swastika since the day Russia invaded Ukraine. Today, it represents a sign of support for the Russian army, displayed everywhere and employed prominently in Russian war propaganda.

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Alina, a young woman Garner had known as a student, grew up in Nizhny Tagil, a city on the doorstep of Siberia famed for its tank factories and for metalworking of all kinds. It too had boomed in the 2000s, but by the mid-2010s, orders were reduced, and workers—who had once promised to come to Moscow to deal with the city types protesting against Putin—found themselves attending protest demonstrations instead. But Alina chose her side in adolescence. Born into a comfortable middle-class family, she studied for a degree in graphic design and longed for Moscow. Addicted to her phone, she developed an increasingly violent antipathy to the West and to Ukraine.

In her social-media posts, she now refers to Ukrainians as “Ukrofascists.” She had, Garner observed, “learned to speak a language of violence—a language of Russian Fascism.” Once open and friendly, she will have nothing to do with Garner now. Her last message to him was a photograph of a nuclear explosion with the caption: “Your children were born to be killed by Russians. And nothing more.” Alina, like Ivan Kondakov, is confident in her educated intelligence and they both look forward to a generation purged of Western materialism. “Kondakov,” Garner writes, “speaks fluently in the language of a fascism that subjugates the individual will to the national spirit.”

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Source:  https://quillette.com/2023/05/10/world-war-z/

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Re: World War Z - Neo-Fascist Russia
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2023, 01:12:06 pm »
Really puts the nut where it belongs.  For all the false claims that Ukraine was neo-nazi, it is Russia that is fast becoming the pre-eminent modern fascist state.

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Re: World War Z - Neo-Fascist Russia
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2023, 02:46:31 pm »
Call it "fascist" or a "ham-on-rye sandwich", Russia has been headed into their current invasion-mess for a couple of decades. Putin has held despotic power for a decade or two. Russian industries are run by a few owners who curry favor with Putin by doing his bidding. Putin is on his third invasion as part of his dream of rebuilding the Czarist-Soviet empire.

This time Ukraine was able to respond quickly enough, and it has cost Putin much/most of his experienced and trained professional army and much/most of their best equipment. The experienced and trained leaders and boots-on-the-ground represent years and decades of experience and training, now lost, gone. The Russian air force has mostly resorted to firing long range air-ground missiles from well inside Russia, except for their SU-25 Warthogsky, which have experienced significant losses (CAS is high-risk, so losses are not a knock on the SU-25 design). Mil-pundits are opining that it will take a decade or more to rebuild/retrain Russia's military back to what it was two years ago.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Re: World War Z - Neo-Fascist Russia
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2023, 02:55:47 pm »
Call it "fascist" or a "ham-on-rye sandwich", Russia has been headed into their current invasion-mess for a couple of decades. Putin has held despotic power for a decade or two. Russian industries are run by a few owners who curry favor with Putin by doing his bidding. Putin is on his third invasion as part of his dream of rebuilding the Czarist-Soviet empire.

This time Ukraine was able to respond quickly enough, and it has cost Putin much/most of his experienced and trained professional army and much/most of their best equipment. The experienced and trained leaders and boots-on-the-ground represent years and decades of experience and training, now lost, gone. The Russian air force has mostly resorted to firing long range air-ground missiles from well inside Russia, except for their SU-25 Warthogsky, which have experienced significant losses (CAS is high-risk, so losses are not a knock on the SU-25 design). Mil-pundits are opining that it will take a decade or more to rebuild/retrain Russia's military back to what it was two years ago.


I wonder if Russia is going to shrink even more.
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« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2023, 04:33:31 pm »
It's not complicated. Russia is ruled by Putin's despotic regime that is desperate to hold on to power.

They need to control the population to prevent revolt.  To control the population, Putin needs to control their minds by blocking their access to ideas that compete with his own plans for Russia.

He will paradoxically use nostalgia for the Russian Empire and Soviet Empire to create a new mythical national identity that promises a new Russian Golden Age that is under threat from external enemies.

He will use the national trauma of Nazi invasion and occupation, with some Ukrainian collaborators, to internally create a mythical national identity of UKraine as Nazi invaders and occupiers.  He needs this myth to counter the traditional cultural and historical ties among Ukrainian and Russian populations that may cause Russian civilians to resist or hesitate to take aggressive military action against Ukraine.

Putin will weave pieces of past history to create a new history that fits his designs for Russia and its peoples.

The only thing that sets Putin apart from any other despot is his access to a large nuclear arsenal.
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Re: World War Z - Neo-Fascist Russia
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2023, 05:33:50 pm »
It's not complicated. Russia is ruled by Putin's despotic regime that is desperate to hold on to power.

They need to control the population to prevent revolt.  To control the population, Putin needs to control their minds by blocking their access to ideas that compete with his own plans for Russia.

He will paradoxically use nostalgia for the Russian Empire and Soviet Empire to create a new mythical national identity that promises a new Russian Golden Age that is under threat from external enemies.

He will use the national trauma of Nazi invasion and occupation, with some Ukrainian collaborators, to internally create a mythical national identity of UKraine as Nazi invaders and occupiers.  He needs this myth to counter the traditional cultural and historical ties among Ukrainian and Russian populations that may cause Russian civilians to resist or hesitate to take aggressive military action against Ukraine.

Putin will weave pieces of past history to create a new history that fits his designs for Russia and its peoples.

The only thing that sets Putin apart from any other despot is his access to a large nuclear arsenal.

In other words, when coupled with the corporatist "control" of the supposedly private economy, there is precious little difference between what Putin is doing with Russia, and what Hitler did with Germany.