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Re: This could be the key to draining the swamp
« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2022, 02:32:03 pm »
Hear here!! Well said @roamer_1 The only place you and I disagree is how we vote in general elections.

And I will not change that @Bigun . I think the taint of RINOs is far more threat than the liberals themselves - At least the liberals are outside the gate.

Look at the Democrats. Wacky as hell, and dangerous too, they still vote in lockstep *FOR* liberalism.

But somehow, we are told Republicans have to be inclusive and compromising - which is exactly the bullcrap that keeps Republicans toothless. And because of that, *NO* opposition at all.

So I don't care about party nonsense, or retaining seats. All those seats do nothing if they are filled with RINOs voting against Conservatism with the Democrats.

So no, I will not vote for anything but Conservatives. No matter the immediate cost. We need to build real and lasting opposition. That is done with zealots, not rah-rah party tricks.

What beats liberal zealotry is Conservative zealotry. RINOs stop that dead.

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Re: This could be the key to draining the swamp
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2022, 02:36:49 pm »
I was one of Cruz' biggest fans and supporters in '16.  Even got booted from TOS for that support.

Since, Cruz has bolted to tropical Mexico during the freeze crisis, and called the J6 trespassers terrorist.

He's got a lot of ground to make up, before I can trust him again.
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Re: This could be the key to draining the swamp
« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2022, 02:41:46 pm »
I was one of Cruz' biggest fans and supporters in '16.  Even got booted from TOS for that support.

Since, Cruz has bolted to tropical Mexico during the freeze crisis, and called the J6 trespassers terrorist.

He's got a lot of ground to make up, before I can trust him again.

Me too, and I have said so... I might be able to be talked into voting for him, but it would take a whole lot of talking. And what offends me most of all is that he voted FOR the pork, with his lips firmly planted on Tumpy's a**.

No way that is TEA party. No way that is Conservative.

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Re: This could be the key to draining the swamp
« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2022, 02:41:47 pm »
And I will not change that @Bigun . I think the taint of RINOs is far more threat than the liberals themselves - At least the liberals are outside the gate.

Look at the Democrats. Wacky as hell, and dangerous too, they still vote in lockstep *FOR* liberalism.

But somehow, we are told Republicans have to be inclusive and compromising - which is exactly the bullcrap that keeps Republicans toothless. And because of that, *NO* opposition at all.

So I don't care about party nonsense, or retaining seats. All those seats do nothing if they are filled with RINOs voting against Conservatism with the Democrats.

So no, I will not vote for anything but Conservatives. No matter the immediate cost. We need to build real and lasting opposition. That is done with zealots, not rah-rah party tricks.

What beats liberal zealotry is Conservative zealotry. RINOs stop that dead.

And I will NEVER cede power to the Communists @roamer_1 NEVER!
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Re: This could be the key to draining the swamp
« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2022, 02:49:30 pm »
And I will NEVER cede power to the Communists @roamer_1 NEVER!

No offense meant @Bigun , but you do when they are in your own party. That's what voting for RINOs in the general IS.

Because either they are communists in their own right, or they enable them, and block Conservatism.

Hard for me to swallow that. In fact, I will not.

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« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2022, 02:51:20 pm »
You get MORE of what you vote *FOR*

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Re: This could be the key to draining the swamp
« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2022, 02:53:21 pm »
No offense meant @Bigun , but you do when they are in your own party. That's what voting for RINOs in the general IS.

Because either they are communists in their own right, or they enable them, and block Conservatism.

Hard for me to swallow that. In fact, I will not.

To me, and I am an extreme radical fiscal conservative is that anyone left of Coolidge is destroying us.  And folks that is 100.0% of Congress,and 99.99999% of the U.S. population.
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Re: This could be the key to draining the swamp
« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2022, 03:01:00 pm »
No offense meant @Bigun , but you do when they are in your own party. That's what voting for RINOs in the general IS.

Because either they are communists in their own right, or they enable them, and block Conservatism.

Hard for me to swallow that. In fact, I will not.

No offence taken @roamer_1 but the way I see things a RINO will betray you on many things, while a Commy will betray you on ALL things!
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Re: This could be the key to draining the swamp
« Reply #33 on: August 19, 2022, 03:03:12 pm »
To me, and I am an extreme radical fiscal conservative is that anyone left of Coolidge is destroying us.  And folks that is 100.0% of Congress,and 99.99999% of the U.S. population.

That's right. In fact, I firmly believe than fiscal Conservatism will no longer do... We are coming to where the rubber meets the road, and extreme austerity - Painful austerity - will be the only route left, and that only by force.

Sooner or later you have to pay the piper, and the bill is way past due.

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« Reply #34 on: August 19, 2022, 03:09:33 pm »
That's right. In fact, I firmly believe than fiscal Conservatism will no longer do... We are coming to where the rubber meets the road, and extreme austerity - Painful austerity - will be the only route left, and that only by force.

Sooner or later you have to pay the piper, and the bill is way past due.

Yep, and that painful austerity may not be a choice or option. I am still torn on whether the pending disaster will be  a '30's (or worse) financial collapse.  Or....   Hyperinflaton in the form of Weimar or Zimbawe. 

The dunces in control of the Fed have the nation's testicles in the vice, and now is a question of which direction they turn the rod.
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Re: This could be the key to draining the swamp
« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2022, 03:10:53 pm »
No offence taken @roamer_1 but the way I see things a RINO will betray you on many things, while a Commy will betray you on ALL things!

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Doesn't matter some or all, when the things betrayed advance big government and further entrench the left - Which is always the case.

As a fun aside, go on over to ACU and see how many Republicans rate below 80%... Because really, I wouldn't call anyone under 90% a Conservative (including Cruz last I looked). I might vote down in the 80s, but low 80's I am running into people I don't consider Conservative at all...

And then go count how many are below 60% to understand why nothing Conservative ever wins.

There's your problem, right there.

How many fair-thee-well liberals are on the other side? Not many.


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Re: This could be the key to draining the swamp
« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2022, 03:20:28 pm »
@Bigun
Doesn't matter some or all, when the things betrayed advance big government and further entrench the left - Which is always the case.

As a fun aside, go on over to ACU and see how many Republicans rate below 80%... Because really, I wouldn't call anyone under 90% a Conservative (including Cruz last I looked). I might vote down in the 80s, but low 80's I am running into people I don't consider Conservative at all...

And then go count how many are below 60% to understand why nothing Conservative ever wins.

There's your problem, right there.

How many fair-thee-well liberals are on the other side? Not many.

You nailed it.  To just show how left wing socialist it has become in DC........

Senators with an ACU rating over 90- 6
Senators with an ACU rating under 10-35

Someone please explain how we already aren't a socialist country.
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Re: This could be the key to draining the swamp
« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2022, 03:21:09 pm »
@Bigun
Doesn't matter some or all, when the things betrayed advance big government and further entrench the left - Which is always the case.

As a fun aside, go on over to ACU and see how many Republicans rate below 80%... Because really, I wouldn't call anyone under 90% a Conservative (including Cruz last I looked). I might vote down in the 80s, but low 80's I am running into people I don't consider Conservative at all...

And then go count how many are below 60% to understand why nothing Conservative ever wins.

There's your problem, right there.

How many fair-thee-well liberals are on the other side? Not many.

Hell @roamer_1 in MY state house district stupid voters just voted to keep the "Republican" incumbent with the absolute WORST voting record in the House over a staunch conservative businessman. Farm bureau and the NRA supported the incumbent.  There is no opponent in November.  I UNDERSTAND the problem! Far better than most in fact!
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« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2022, 03:23:29 pm »
You nailed it.  To just show how left wing socialist it has become in DC........

Senators with an ACU rating over 90- 6
Senators with an ACU rating under 10-35

Someone please explain how we already aren't a socialist country.

The constitution. Or what little is left of it.
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« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2022, 03:24:39 pm »
The constitution. Or what little is left of it.

After what happened August 8th?  Not so sure anymore.
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Re: This could be the key to draining the swamp
« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2022, 03:31:24 pm »
Yep, and that painful austerity may not be a choice or option.

YEP. Don't get me wrong - I would rejoice to see fiscal conservatism arise, and I would happily roll the bones on whether or not it would be enough to bail us out. But if even that much does not happen soon - Like right now - I think a recovery will be beyond reach.

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I am still torn on whether the pending disaster will be  a '30's (or worse) financial collapse.  Or....   Hyperinflaton in the form of Weimar or Zimbawe. 

With $30T on the books and a government printing and spending more than the GNP? That boat is going right to the bottom. Doesn't matter which way it gets there.

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The dunces in control of the Fed have the nation's testicles in the vice, and now is a question of which direction they turn the rod.

We were warned. Fiat currency always goes the same way eventually... Because it can.

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Re: This could be the key to draining the swamp
« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2022, 03:45:07 pm »
John Cornyn =76%

Ted Cruz = 95%'

Current ACU ratings @catfish1957
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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien