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Re: Should Trump Run in 2024?
« Reply #50 on: August 14, 2022, 11:24:53 pm »
Anyone who isn't paranoid in 2021 just isn't thinking clearly!

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Re: Should Trump Run in 2024?
« Reply #51 on: August 14, 2022, 11:29:15 pm »
So why didn’t he drain the swamp in his first go around? He’s gone. The DC establishment is still there and more powerful than ever

@LMAO

Yeah,really! The man had never held elected office before,is a rookie in politics,and suddenly he is the President of the United States for the first time,and has to ask advice on who to  hire to help him and to find out who he can trust.

HIT BEES ALL HIZ FALTS,HUH?

He is not going to be a political OR a Presidential rookie this time,and he will enter office knowing what to expect,and understanding fully that he can't trust anyone just because they have an "R" behind their name.

He also understands there is zero chance of him ever getting more than another 4 years to turn things around.
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Re: Should Trump Run in 2024?
« Reply #52 on: August 14, 2022, 11:31:36 pm »
@LMAO

Yeah,really! The man had never held elected office before,is a rookie in politics,and suddenly he is the President of the United States for the first time,and has to ask advice on who to  hire to help him and to find out who he can trust.

HIT BEES ALL HIZ FALTS,HUH?

He is not going to be a political OR a Presidential rookie this time,and he will enter office knowing what to expect,and understanding fully that he can't trust anyone just because they have an "R" behind their name.

He also understands there is zero chance of him ever getting more than another 4 years to turn things around.

So all the magic that didn’t happen in his first term will happen if he gets another term huh? Lol

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Re: Should Trump Run in 2024?
« Reply #53 on: August 14, 2022, 11:31:45 pm »
Yes, Trump, I believe, was naive and believed the people that worked for him would follow his lead.. Now he knows better and hopefully will take no prisoners.

@EdinVA

You can bet money on it.  Not only is ego at stake,so is the way he will get written about in the history books.

Not that a modest fellow like him lets his ego affect him.
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Re: Should Trump Run in 2024?
« Reply #54 on: August 14, 2022, 11:32:03 pm »
Sorry, I refuse to give up and let the Corruptocrats destroy the Republic. I'm funny that way and I am in the trenches in this war.

Indeed you are.  Thank you! :patriot:
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Re: Should Trump Run in 2024?
« Reply #55 on: August 14, 2022, 11:32:17 pm »
So why didn’t he drain the swamp in his first go around? He’s gone. The DC establishment is still there and more powerful than ever

Good question, and the answer is within your post.

If we want to fault Trump for anything—and it’s something that many of us might admit to doing as well—and that is that he underestimated the depth and breathe of the swamp’s corruption and pervasive influence. Certainly it will take more than one or even half dozen consecutive America-first administrations to break the swamp’s cycle of influence.

And yes, now we know the extent of the problem: our rulers are indeed powerful and tenacious and corrupt. They won’t go quietly away; they will need to be pulled out root and branch kicking and screaming if necessary.

But, Trump was instrumental in exposing them for the liars and thieves they are. Let’s not forget he was cheated out of his second administration. He must be given a chance to continue his work, followed by successive American-First administrations.

And as for our rotted culture, it will make the work ahead very difficult and require decades of repair.

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Re: Should Trump Run in 2024?
« Reply #56 on: August 14, 2022, 11:36:40 pm »
Sorry, I refuse to give up and let the Corruptocrats destroy the Republic. I'm funny that way and I am in the trenches in this war.

I was there for a LONG time, and truthfully still am. Certainly not to the extent I once was but enough to have your back, my friend! @Cyber Liberty
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Re: Should Trump Run in 2024?
« Reply #57 on: August 14, 2022, 11:39:23 pm »
Good question, and the answer is within your post.

If we want to fault Trump for anything—and it’s something that many of us might admit to doing as well—and that is that he underestimated the depth and breathe of the swamp’s corruption and pervasive influence. Certainly it will take more than one or even half dozen consecutive America-first administrations to break the swamp’s cycle of influence.

And yes, now we know the extent of the problem: our rulers are indeed powerful and tenacious and corrupt. They won’t go quietly away; they will need to be pulled out root and branch kicking and screaming if necessary.

But, Trump was instrumental in exposing them for the liars and thieves they are. Let’s not forget he was cheated out of his second administration. He must be given a chance to continue his work, followed by successive American-First administrations.

And as for our rotted culture, it will make the work ahead very difficult and require decades of repair.

I can only say AMEN and very well stated @aligncare!  BRAVO!!!
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Re: Should Trump Run in 2024?
« Reply #58 on: August 14, 2022, 11:39:48 pm »
I will return you right to what I said to begin with. Trump appointed Fauci, known Cuomo buddy whom Biden retained, to lead the response.

Trump destroyed every last shred of good will he might have built his first three years by not only not draining the swamp, but entrusting it with draconian power. He rushed mRNA vaccines into production that were spectacular failures. He ran up the deficit into the trillions of dollars by handing out free money so that lefty governors could turn their states into dystopian nightmares where they take away your birthday. And the end result? A ballot-stuffing scheme that ensured puppet Joe Biden went right to the White House while his handlers go to work on Obama's third term. The worker shortage? That started under Trump's welfare state. Inflation? That started under Trump's welfare state.

We can, and must, do better, but we can only do so if Trump disappears forever. Only after everything stops being about Trump can we ever get to work solving the real problems this country faces.

I'd much rather see the governors who actually rejected the Fauci plan and fought against it.

Good post. And there’s nothing you said that wasn’t true. That’s why you’re being attacked
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Re: Should Trump Run in 2024?
« Reply #59 on: August 14, 2022, 11:42:22 pm »
So all the magic will happen if he gets another term huh? Lol

Why do people mold  candidates into what  they believe they will be or what they will do? We saw this phenomenon with Barack Obama first

@LMAO there is no 'magic' that can fix what the left has done and is doing to are Republic.  We may not see another election in '24 at the rate they are destroying this country.  It sure isn't the Republic I grew up in and it is heart wrenching to watch a political party destroy this country for their own greed -- the Great Reset and O'Bammy's transformation is what they've been aiming for.

Either conservatives can ALL stand together or we lose. There's no guarantee that Trump will even run and if he doesn't I don't think even DeSantis (who has stated he's not interested in the presidency) or Cruz is going to be able to pull us out of this sea of quicksand that we find ourselves in.  Trump knows the ins and outs, he knows the swamp creatures, he knows how to stay one step ahead of them and above all the mud slung at him he had our country turned around in a positive direction in a very short time.  Whether you like it or not, the GOP doesn't have anyone else who can get 'er done! 

Other choices for president; Romney, Rubio, Cheney, McCarthy and other RINO's. They will continue to take this country in the same direction that we're headed for now -- down a socialist 3rd world toilet!
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Re: Should Trump Run in 2024?
« Reply #60 on: August 14, 2022, 11:43:57 pm »
I’m not gonna disagree that Trump was a rookie and he probably underestimated how deeply entrenched the Washington DC establishment is. And he probably assumed, wrongly so, that the Republicans would have his back and not be part of the problem

But he had his shot. There’s nothing that shows me that, if he got a second term, he would take an axe to the size and scope of the federal government

Sure, he cut taxes and reduced some regulations. But there needs to be much more than that to be done
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Re: Should Trump Run in 2024?
« Reply #61 on: August 14, 2022, 11:46:44 pm »
I’m not gonna disagree that Trump was a rookie and he probably underestimated how deeply entrenched the Washington DC establishment is. And he probably assumed, wrongly so, that the Republicans would have his back and not be part of the problem

But he had his shot. There’s nothing that shows me that, if he got a second term, he would take an axe to the size and scope of the federal government

Sure, he cut taxes and reduced some regulations. But there needs to be much more than that to be done

Well, if not Trump, then who?  Romney?   *****rollingeyes*****

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Re: Should Trump Run in 2024?
« Reply #62 on: August 14, 2022, 11:48:20 pm »
Well, if not Trump, then who?  Romney?   *****rollingeyes*****

Didn’t vote for Mitt Romney. You?
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Re: Should Trump Run in 2024?
« Reply #63 on: August 14, 2022, 11:49:26 pm »
Good post. And there’s nothing you didn’t say that wasn’t true. That’s why you’re being attacked

Except the Fauci part. Fauci has been director of NIH since 1984. Trump inherited Fauci, he didn’t appoint him. He was already there as head of NIH.

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Re: Should Trump Run in 2024?
« Reply #64 on: August 14, 2022, 11:50:08 pm »
I’m not gonna disagree that Trump was a rookie and he probably underestimated how deeply entrenched the Washington DC establishment is. And he probably assumed, wrongly so, that the Republicans would have his back and not be part of the problem

But he had his shot. There’s nothing that shows me that, if he got a second term, he would take an axe to the size and scope of the federal government

Sure, he cut taxes and reduced some regulations. But there needs to be much more than that to be done

So what are you going to do if Trump winds up being the Republican nominee in 2024 @LMAO ?

Will you work to defeat the EVIL that is consuming us or will you take your marbles and go home?
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Re: Should Trump Run in 2024?
« Reply #65 on: August 14, 2022, 11:53:18 pm »
Good post. And there’s nothing you said that wasn’t true. That’s why you’re being attacked

Yes, I really do having my efforts rubbished like that.  Even though we got good America First candidates nominated to State-wide offices.  Little unimportant ones like Governor, US Senator and Secretary of State.  Oh yeah, Attorney General.

Giving up it totally the right thing to do.

My work is done for now, so by all means, tell me I'm full of shit.  I like it, it encourages me.
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Re: Should Trump Run in 2024?
« Reply #66 on: August 14, 2022, 11:54:29 pm »
So what are you going to do if Trump winds up being the Republican nominee in 2024 @LMAO ?

Will you work to defeat EVIL or will you take your marbles and go home?

I'm guessing marbles, and home. 
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Re: Should Trump Run in 2024?
« Reply #67 on: August 14, 2022, 11:56:32 pm »
I will return you right to what I said to begin with. Trump appointed Fauci, known Cuomo buddy whom Biden retained, to lead the response.

Trump destroyed every last shred of good will he might have built his first three years by not only not draining the swamp, but entrusting it with draconian power. He rushed mRNA vaccines into production that were spectacular failures. He ran up the deficit into the trillions of dollars by handing out free money so that lefty governors could turn their states into dystopian nightmares where they take away your birthday. And the end result? A ballot-stuffing scheme that ensured puppet Joe Biden went right to the White House while his handlers go to work on Obama's third term. The worker shortage? That started under Trump's welfare state. Inflation? That started under Trump's welfare state.

We can, and must, do better, but we can only do so if Trump disappears forever. Only after everything stops being about Trump can we ever get to work solving the real problems this country faces.

I'd much rather see the governors who actually rejected the Fauci plan and fought against it.

I declare some b.s. here @jmyrlefuller   Trump reacted with warp speed to a pandemic getting PPE's, medical personnel, the private sector to act together to speed things up.  No other president in modern times was hit with a pandemic.  He relied on the 'experts' (Fauci and Birx), the CDC and the WHO who out and out lied to him as well as to us.  Trump was willing to use several known vaccines already on the market that data from Italy and Israel showed some promise.  Facui shut him down as did the CDC, WHO, the DEMS and the RINO's who were all too willing to go against him and keep us masked and locked down.

Bare in mind that Trump left it up to the governors of each state to close down and open back up.  We can't help if the corrupt idiots leading blue states kept states closed down and they did so at the objection of many of their constituents (MI as example) and they scared them to death telling them that they were all going to die if they didn't comply.  I'm sorry, but after awhile common sense needs to take hold and the governors, mayors, etc. of blue states need to be held accountable.

If you are blaming Trump for a ballot-stuffing scheme, think again.  You might want to become involved with your local elections office (it may be too late) and become a precinct captain or call the RNC and put a bug in Ronna's ear that she was in large part responsible. 

How about putting the blame where the blame lies; a corrupt DOJ, SCOTUS, and most of Congress along with the leaches in most of the blues states; there are some also in red states as well.

The only way to remedy the situation that we are in is to build from the bottom up -- trying to build from the top down is almost futile; even at that again, Trump had us pointed in a much better direction.

Speaking for myself, I was much better off during the Trump years then the Biden days of hell; and he's not finished with us yet.
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Re: Should Trump Run in 2024?
« Reply #68 on: August 15, 2022, 12:01:55 am »
So what are you going to do if Trump winds up being the Republican nominee in 2024 @LMAO ?

Will you work to defeat EVIL or will you take your marbles and go home?

That depends

It appears that many of these Trump endorsed candidates will be going to Congress, at least the House, and maybe some governorships and state houses

If these Trump endorsed newly elected really reduce the size and scope of the federal government and reign in these agencies to the best of their ability and what they legally can do, then I will vote for him in 2024. But if they grow the federal government in their image and use these agencies as tools to punish their opponents , I think I would just move into the mts and hide

We have very serious problems in this country that could very much end us. We need serious people that are willing to address them and not add to them

I will be voting for Trump endorsed candidate Michels for gov this year but I’m doubtful he’s going to win

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Re: Should Trump Run in 2024?
« Reply #69 on: August 15, 2022, 12:04:33 am »
@EdinVA

You can bet money on it.  Not only is ego at stake,so is the way he will get written about in the history books.

Not that a modest fellow like him lets his ego affect him.
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Re: Should Trump Run in 2024?
« Reply #70 on: August 15, 2022, 12:24:30 am »
They're the problem.

No.  @jmyrlefuller The problem is not with Trump supporters.  The problem is with you and those like you who are drawn to losing so they can luxuriate in four more years of whining and feeling abused.

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Re: Should Trump Run in 2024?
« Reply #71 on: August 15, 2022, 12:27:43 am »
They're the problem.

I wouldn’t necessarily say they’re the problem

They are average people who are told by the media and the elite how stupid and terrible they are and they found somebody who they feel is on their side
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« Reply #72 on: August 15, 2022, 12:41:38 am »
I wouldn’t necessarily say they’re the problem

They are average people who are told by the media and the elite how stupid and terrible they are and they found somebody who they feel is on their side

There, fixed it for you.  happy77
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Re: Should Trump Run in 2024?
« Reply #73 on: August 15, 2022, 12:48:40 am »
@LMAO

Yeah,really! The man had never held elected office before,is a rookie in politics,and suddenly he is the President of the United States for the first time,and has to ask advice on who to  hire to help him and to find out who he can trust.

HIT BEES ALL HIZ FALTS,HUH?

He is not going to be a political OR a Presidential rookie this time,and he will enter office knowing what to expect,and understanding fully that he can't trust anyone just because they have an "R" behind their name.

He also understands there is zero chance of him ever getting more than another 4 years to turn things around.
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Yet that's all Donald Trump does, day in and day out. When he's not out there bragging about himself (when you're more narcissistic than a career politician, that's a problem), he's making these outrageous claims that he has no idea of how to implement them, and in many cases he knows there's no realistic way to do so. He had four years and managed to take a halfway decent three year start (much of it, again, driven by a Republican Congress and statehouses) and utterly destroy it. Why would I want to give this man another four to do even more damage?

Over 300 million people in this country, and all we can do is keep going back to the same turd that caused so much grief?
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Re: Should Trump Run in 2024?
« Reply #74 on: August 15, 2022, 12:57:26 am »
There's an old saying: don't write checks your backside can't cash.

Yet that's all Donald Trump does, day in and day out. When he's not out there bragging about himself (when you're more narcissistic than a career politician, that's a problem), he's making these outrageous claims that he has no idea of how to implement them, and in many cases he knows there's no realistic way to do so. He had four years and managed to take a halfway decent three year start (much of it, again, driven by a Republican Congress and statehouses) and utterly destroy it. Why would I want to give this man another four to do even more damage?

Over 300 million people in this country, and all we can do is keep going back to the same turd that caused so much grief?

Ok, lay it all out on the table @jmyrlefuller exactly what specific grief did Trump himself cause the country?? 
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