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Offline goatprairie

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He’s now changed his tune, and admitted as much.
Yeah, he's changed his tune. But since it's Trump, that's perfectly fine, right?
What if this were Hillary Rotten Clinton, Obama, or Biden who did what he did concerning the fifth? What would you be saying then?

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The vast majority of people assume that if someone invokes their 5th Amendment right that they are guilty. They are wrong.

So now that it has been established that Trump was wrong, but smart enough to listen to his attorney's can we assume you will be a big Trump supporter? After all it takes a big man to admit when they were wrong and change their attitude.
So he was lying six years ago when he was slamming people who took the fifth and the crowds were cheering him?

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Maybe Trump should have just repeated 'I don't recall', that seemed to work well for Hillary when she was questioned about a little debacle that got Americans killed and the socialist press was just fine. But invoke your constitutional right at a kangaroo court fishing expedition and it's suddenly OMG!
So Trump was lying six years ago when he said people who took the fifth were guilty?

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So Trump was lying six years ago when he said people who took the fifth were guilty?

If I asked you point blank, what were doing September 7, 2019 at 3:57 p.m. how would you answer?

Fishing like this is an infamous tactic of the criminal FBI and the DOJ.

The state of our federal law enforcement reminds me of a very iconic and funny point during the show "Breaking Bad"



'You don't want a criminal lawyer... you want a "criminal" lawyer,'
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What if this were Hillary Rotten Clinton, Obama, or Biden who did what he did concerning the fifth? What would you be saying then?

I would be saying that is good advice.
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So Trump was lying six years ago when he said people who took the fifth were guilty?

Did Trump actually say that?  Or are you simply projecting that on him in order to produce a false account of what he actually said just like Democrats do?
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So he was lying six years ago when he was slamming people who took the fifth and the crowds were cheering him?

Who did he slam for taking the fifth?
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So he was lying six years ago when he was slamming people who took the fifth and the crowds were cheering him?

When was this @goatprairie ??

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It is also alleged that the size of Trump’s Manhattan-based penthouse was exaggerated.

Since when is exaggerating the size of something a crime?

If it is,ALL men are going to be indicted.

Not ME,of course,but normal men. I would never lie about a thing like that.
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IMHO, Trump is sending out these notification in hopes that Maga mobs will protest those officials and agencies persecuting him.  He's hoping that Maga mass protests will intimidate them to back off.

@DefiantMassRINO

BullBush!

Are you seriously claiming Trump  doesn't like attention?
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So Trump was lying six years ago when he said people who took the fifth were guilty?

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DJT:  I once asked "If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?"  Now I know the answer to that question.

But no worries @goatprairie   ----- you got him now.   88devil

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Insulting me is a deflection from the validity of my opinion.

 

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That right  there is sum funny stuff!
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These morons impress who exactly?

 :shrug: :shrug: :shrug:

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Morons that are RINO's or Dims. But,I repeat myself. ALL RINO's and Dims are morons. It's an actual requirement.
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Yeah, he's changed his tune. But since it's Trump, that's perfectly fine, right?
What if this were Hillary Rotten Clinton, Obama, or Biden who did what he did concerning the fifth? What would you be saying then?

@goatprairie

Ahhh,class envy!

Never a pretty thing,especially when put on exhibit by someone who actually thinks they are a conservative because they lack imagination.
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Since @goatprairie doesn't seem to have any answers for us, I would like to review the statement that Trump made at an Iowa campaign rally in 2016:

“So there are five people taking the Fifth Amendment. Like you see on the mob, right? You see the mob takes the Fifth. If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”

To put this into context, the five people he was referring to were all Hillary Clinton staffers.  They were not subjects of the investigation.  They weren't being questioned for their own guilt, but were simply witnesses to what Hillary had done.  So they legitimately had no reason to plead the fifth because Amendment V protects against self-incrimination only.  So clearly, they were fearful of testifying against Hillary, just as a mob member would be afraid to testify against a mob leader. 

That is the context of Trump's statement.  So in the future, can we refrain from posting DU bullshit on this board?
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So he was lying six years ago when he was slamming people who took the fifth and the crowds were cheering him?

@goatprairi

No,you moron,he was just wrong due to lack of experience.

BTW,which moron do you support in 2024?
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Yeah, he's changed his tune. But since it's Trump, that's perfectly fine, right?
What if this were Hillary Rotten Clinton, Obama, or Biden who did what he did concerning the fifth? What would you be saying then?

I would be saying that that's his/her/its right.  I wouldn't assume they were guilty because they were invoking their right to silence; I would assume they were guilty because of what they'd done.  Hillary was pretty clearly guilty of mishandling classified information with her homebrew email server, and Comey's "excuse" for her - she didn't have the correct state of mind - was an obvious misstatement of the relevant law on state of mind requirements.

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Bingo!,indeed!

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IMHO, Trump took the 5th Amendment because that is his Constitutional right.  That's the simplest explanation.

IMHO, most of Trump's text is personal disparagement of a public official designed to illicit a mass response against her and her office.

@DefiantMassRINO

In other words,you want another "Bush" in the White House instead of a conservative.

Don't be a wuss,NAME Him!
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I thought Rinos were supposed to be the smart wing of the GOP 

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Why would you have ever thought that? It was the RINO's,working with their Dim communist brothers,that got us into the mess we are in now.
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I'm hoping Ron DeSantis will run in 2024.
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I've always worried that if he was in a court, or at a deposition, he would talk. It's the worst thing an innocent man can do. Attorneys make their living manipulating words and if Trump starts arguing with them he will end up walking right into a trap.

We are truly fortunate in this country that we do not have to answer questions if we don't want to, especially now that we've seen how corrupt the justice system in this country has become.

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Even *I* am smarter than that. Went to traffic court recently,and was smart enough to get my ex to go along with me and do all the talking for me by telling them I was too deaf to understand their questions.

And the funny part is that it was and is true.

Who says being damn near deaf is a bad thing?
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"Trump has suggested on many occasions that people who invoke their right against self-incrimination are guilty. “You see the mob takes the Fifth,” Trump said during a 2016 rally in Iowa. “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?"

So Trump is guilty by his own reasoning, right?

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Trump is in your head while you lay sleeping,isn't he?
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So he was lying six years ago when he was slamming people who took the fifth and the crowds were cheering him?

@goatprairie

What do your good friends at the Huffington Post have to say about this?
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If I asked you point blank, what were doing September 7, 2019 at 3:57 p.m. how would you answer?

Fishing like this is an infamous tactic of the criminal FBI and the DOJ.

The state of our federal law enforcement reminds me of a very iconic and funny point during the show "Breaking Bad"



'You don't want a criminal lawyer... you want a "criminal" lawyer,'

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LOVED that show!

The transformation of Walter that started with episode 1 has to be seen to be believed.
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