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Re: U.S. to send $4.5 billion more to Ukraine for budget needs.
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2022, 05:36:25 pm »
Freedom my a*s ---- this whole sh*tshow is state-sponsored money laundering

BREAKING: Biden admin to send additional $4.5 BILLION to Ukraine
These new funds will go directly to Ukraine's government.
The Post Millennial, Aug 8, 2022

According to Reuters, the US Agency for International Development made the announcement on Monday: "The funding, coordinated with the U.S. Treasury Department through the World Bank, will go to the Ukraine government in tranches, beginning with a $3 billion disbursement in August, USAID, the Agency for International Development, said," they report.

Transfer payments of $1.7 billion in July and $1.3 billion in June were already made earlier this year. Billions were also provided in military support, and a $1 billion weapons package is expected to make its way in the near future.

Ukrainian officials say that they face a $5-billion-a-month fiscal shortfall due to the war. The World Bank estimates that over half of Ukrainians willl be living in poverty by the end of 2023.

USAID says that the US's financial support to the wartorn Ukraine has allowed for their government to keep gas and electricity flowing to critical infrastructure. The funds have also gone towards teachers, nurses, and other civil servants.

https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-biden-admin-to-send-additional-4-5-billion-to-ukraine?utm_campaign=64483


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Re: U.S. to send $4.5 billion more to Ukraine for budget needs.
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2022, 05:42:10 pm »
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The World Bank estimates that over half of Ukrainians willl be living in poverty by the end of 2023.

Any estimates from The World Bank on Americans living in poverty by the end of 2023?

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Re: U.S. to send $4.5 billion more to Ukraine for budget needs.
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2022, 05:50:16 pm »
Any estimates from The World Bank on Americans living in poverty by the end of 2023?

We will have two classes of people; the very elite like Gates. Blooomberg, Bezos, etc., and the rest of us.  Poor because of what has been inflicted upon us by our gov't.

IF the GOP takes the House, what are the odds of them actually doing something??
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Re: U.S. to send $4.5 billion more to Ukraine for budget needs.
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2022, 06:08:27 pm »
For the record, Ukraine hasn't asked for money to address their budget needs.  They have asked for weapons (which we still are not delivering).

Biden is doing this on purpose.
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Re: U.S. to send $4.5 billion more to Ukraine for budget needs.
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2022, 06:53:56 pm »
For the record, Ukraine hasn't asked for money to address their budget needs. 

Wrong @Hoodat

Ukraine needs up to $7 billion in support per month, Zelensky says.
NY Times, April 21, 2022

As Ukraine suffers from what he described as “completely destroyed normal economic relations” and widespread destruction, President Volodymyr Zelensky told the World Bank that his country needed up to $7 billion in support per month and that it would need hundreds of billions of dollars to recover from the war.

Since Russia invaded Ukraine on Feb. 24, Mr. Zelensky said, Russian troops have destroyed or damaged tens of thousands of houses and more than 1,100 educational institutions, as well as hospitals and businesses. An initial analysis found that Ukraine has suffered $550 billion in losses, he said.

In the United States, Denys Shmyhal, the Ukrainian prime minister, met with the House speaker, Nancy Pelosi, to call for additional support for his country.

Mr. Shmyhal said on Twitter after meeting with Ms. Pelosi that he was “convinced” that Ukraine would receive increased economic, humanitarian and military support. Mr. Shmyhal also joined the World Bank meeting that Mr. Zelensky addressed virtually.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/21/world/zelensky-ukraine-support.html


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Ukraine asks U.S. for $2 billion per month in emergency economic aid
Treasury Secretary Janet L. Yellen says the administration is working on asking Congress for more funding
Washington Post,  April 25, 2022 at 6:00 a.m. EDT

Marchenko said Ukraine is seeking the economic support to continue to pay for pensions, salaries for health care and education officials, and other humanitarian needs.

 Ukraine could print more money to cover some of these expenses, but that would lead to spiking inflation at a time when the war has already disrupted the trade of basic goods into the country.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2022/04/25/ukraine-finance-minister-aid/



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Re: U.S. to send $4.5 billion more to Ukraine for budget needs.
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2022, 06:56:45 pm »
Wrong @Hoodat

Ukraine needs up to $7 billion in support per month, Zelensky says.
NY Times, April 21, 2022

As Ukraine suffers from what he described as “completely destroyed normal economic relations” and widespread destruction, President Volodymyr Zelensky told the World Bank that his country needed up to $7 billion in support per month and that it would need hundreds of billions of dollars to recover from the war.

Again, what part of "the World Bank" are you confusing with the US Treasury?
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Re: U.S. to send $4.5 billion more to Ukraine for budget needs.
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2022, 07:01:05 pm »
Again, what part of "the World Bank" are you confusing with the US Treasury?

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The funding, coordinated with the U.S. Treasury Department through the World Bank, will go to the Ukraine government in tranches, beginning with a $3 billion disbursement in August, USAID, the Agency for International Development, said," they report.

https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-biden-admin-to-send-additional-4-5-billion-to-ukraine?utm_campaign=64483



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Re: U.S. to send $4.5 billion more to Ukraine for budget needs.
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2022, 07:05:39 pm »
Are you unaware that Janet Yellen and Nancy Pelosi and the US Congress do not work for The World Bank?

Are you unaware that Janet Yellen and Nancy Pelosi do not speak for the Ukraine government?
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Re: U.S. to send $4.5 billion more to Ukraine for budget needs.
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2022, 07:09:22 pm »
The funding, coordinated with the U.S. Treasury Department through the World Bank, will go to the Ukraine government in tranches, beginning with a $3 billion disbursement in August, USAID, the Agency for International Development, said," they report.

https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-biden-admin-to-send-additional-4-5-billion-to-ukraine?utm_campaign=64483

This was part of the $40 billion package which I vehemently opposed.  In fact, I even detailed on this thread more than once the amount targeted for USAID, and how that money would not be used for the weapons that Ukraine is asking for.  Not sure what point you are trying to make here.  The only part that is missing from your argument here is the part where Ukraine requested that money from the US instead of weapons.
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Re: U.S. to send $4.5 billion more to Ukraine for budget needs.
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2022, 07:15:46 pm »
Are you unaware that Janet Yellen and Nancy Pelosi do not speak for the Ukraine government?

This   pointing-up @Hoodat    ..... borders on the incoherent.

Zelensky set the terms of his extortion and Biden --- with the willing support of Bidenites everywhere ---- agreed to the terms.  Here's step 1 of the laundering process......

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The funding, coordinated with the U.S. Treasury Department through the World Bank, will go to the Ukraine government in tranches, beginning with a $3 billion disbursement in August, USAID, the Agency for International Development, said," they report.

https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-biden-admin-to-send-additional-4-5-billion-to-ukraine?utm_campaign=64483

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Re: U.S. to send $4.5 billion more to Ukraine for budget needs.
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2022, 07:43:14 pm »
This   pointing-up @Hoodat    ..... borders on the incoherent.

Zelensky set the terms of his extortion

Do you have a link for that?  Didn't think so.
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« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2022, 07:47:25 pm »

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1556686000352645120

None of which will provide Ukraine with the offensive capability to drive Russians out of their territory.  But Biden knows that.

btw, the 50 M-113s (without guns) are especially insulting.
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Re: U.S. to send $4.5 billion more to Ukraine for budget needs.
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2022, 11:04:44 am »
Do you have a link for that?  Didn't think so.

I posted two links upthread.

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« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2022, 03:42:17 pm »
I posted two links upthread.

Neither of your links says a thing about extortion.  Care to try again?
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