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 Coal industry ‘shocked and disheartened’ by Manchin climate deal
by Alexander Bolton - 08/03/22 4:40 PM ET

The West Virginia Coal Association and several other state-based coal industry groups on Wednesday blasted the tax and climate deal that Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) agreed to last week, warning it will “severely threaten American coal” and an estimated 381,000 jobs. 

“This legislation is so egregious, it leaves those of us that call Sen. Manchin a friend, shocked and disheartened,” the groups wrote in a blistering statement that accused the West Virginia senator of zigzagging in the energy debate. 

“Sen. Manchin has seemingly fought against numerous climate measures advanced over the past year by the national democratic establishment,” the groups said. “The current Schumer-Manchin draft agreement on climate and energy frankly leaves us questioning the motivation and sincerity of Manchin’s previous stance and his repeated chant: we must ‘innovate not eliminate.’”

The groups warn the deal Manchin crafted with Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) after months of negotiation “will quickly diminish our coal producing operations and all but obviate any need to innovate coal assets.” 

The groups argue the bill — which Democrats have dubbed the Inflation Reduction Act and plan to pass this weekend — will do “nothing for coal or coal generation” and won’t reduce inflation or lower household energy costs.

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Re: Coal industry ‘shocked and disheartened’ by Manchin climate deal
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2022, 03:07:37 pm »
Vote for Democrats and get the shaft every time!
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Re: Coal industry ‘shocked and disheartened’ by Manchin climate deal
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2022, 03:11:09 pm »
They have to find out the hard way
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Re: Coal industry ‘shocked and disheartened’ by Manchin climate deal
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2022, 05:35:57 pm »
Manchin is representing himself and the DCP and not the people of West Virginia.

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Re: Coal industry ‘shocked and disheartened’ by Manchin climate deal
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2022, 05:41:27 pm »
Vote for Democrats and get the shaft every time!

Yep, and here's their sign.  Manchin sold them out.
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Re: Coal industry ‘shocked and disheartened’ by Manchin climate deal
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2022, 05:41:32 pm »
Hey coal industry.  You knew Manchin was a snake.
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Re: Coal industry ‘shocked and disheartened’ by Manchin climate deal
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2022, 06:32:13 pm »
I am sitting on 500 acres of coal (3 layers thick, each richer than the other), that is currently too costly to mine at current prices. It was at one time my retirement plan.
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Re: Coal industry ‘shocked and disheartened’ by Manchin climate deal
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2022, 07:07:44 pm »
How many times does the coal industry need to be "shocked and disheartened" by this Rat before they stop electing him?  His treachery goes back years.
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Re: Coal industry ‘shocked and disheartened’ by Manchin climate deal
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2022, 07:11:40 pm »
How many times does the coal industry need to be "shocked and disheartened" by this Rat before they stop electing him?  His treachery goes back years.

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Re: Coal industry ‘shocked and disheartened’ by Manchin climate deal
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2022, 07:34:42 pm »
How many times does the coal industry need to be "shocked and disheartened" by this Rat before they stop electing him?  His treachery goes back years.

That is what's confusing. How many times do you get burned by the same person before you realize that they're no good and lie? Unless, the election in WV has been bought. :shrug:
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Re: Coal industry ‘shocked and disheartened’ by Manchin climate deal
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2022, 07:35:57 pm »
I am sitting on 500 acres of coal (3 layers thick, each richer than the other), that is currently too costly to mine at current prices. It was at one time my retirement plan.

 **nononono*  Praying that one day soon you will reap the benefit of those 500 acres.
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Re: Coal industry ‘shocked and disheartened’ by Manchin climate deal
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2022, 07:54:33 pm »
I am sitting on 500 acres of coal (3 layers thick, each richer than the other), that is currently too costly to mine at current prices. It was at one time my retirement plan.

Maybe they'll crank those steel mills back up in Birmingham.
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Re: Coal industry ‘shocked and disheartened’ by Manchin climate deal
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2022, 07:55:45 pm »
Maybe they'll crank those steel mills back up in Birmingham.

Yup.  Steel needs Coke.
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Re: Coal industry ‘shocked and disheartened’ by Manchin climate deal
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2022, 08:05:00 pm »
Yup.  Steel needs Coke.

So does Hunter Biden.
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Re: Coal industry ‘shocked and disheartened’ by Manchin climate deal
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2022, 08:22:53 pm »
I am sitting on 500 acres of coal (3 layers thick, each richer than the other), that is currently too costly to mine at current prices. It was at one time my retirement plan.
it will still be there for the kids and grandkids to enjoy.  not going anywhere.

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Re: Coal industry ‘shocked and disheartened’ by Manchin climate deal
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2022, 11:30:41 pm »
I Sailed observed:
"They have to find out the hard way"

Some will never "find out".
They'll just keep repeating their mistakes over and over and over and over.

"My great-grandaddy voted democrat",
"My grandaddy voted democrat",
"My daddy voted democrat",
"I'm a democrat -- I could NEVER vote for the evil Republicans".

What can be done with them?