Biden to announce executive action to protect abortion access

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Will Joe next come out with an EO that orders Americans to abort or face jailtime?

It seems heading that way.

[roamer_1]

So, he's basically accusing - in public - a coordinate branch of government of acting unconstitutionally and in a treasonous manner?

projection on his part.

[mystery-ak]

Biden Will Sign Meaningless Executive Orders on Abortion After Massive Pressure by Democrats
By Rick Moran Jul 08, 2022 10:10 AM ET

Joe Biden wants and needs to satisfy his rabid, ravenous base of pro-abortion fanatics by expanding access to the procedure and allowing more women to kill their unborn babies. Unfortunately for him, there’s a little thing called the Constitution of the United States that’s standing in his way.

Try explaining that to the faces contorted with rage marching in the streets demanding Biden do something about abortion.

The entire radical left of the Democratic Party has become unhinged. They have suggested all kinds of ludicrous alternatives, like building abortion clinics on federal lands or allowing a “carveout” for the filibuster to force a vote on making abortion legal nationwide.

An abortion clinic on a military base, for example, would still leave doctors, women, and anyone who assists in an abortion open to criminal charges in states that outlaw abortion. As for a filibuster carveout, there aren’t even 50 Democratic votes in the Senate for a law that would legalize abortion nationwide.

But Biden has some tricks up his sleeve, many of which would end up being challenged in court.

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https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2022/07/08/biden-will-sign-meaningless-executive-orders-on-abortion-after-massive-pressure-by-democrats-n1611343

[DefiantMassRINO]

Would this involve the Unconstitutional circumvention of the House of Representatives for the budget appropriations necessary to carry out the policy?

Is this Executive Order in conflict with existing Laws?

Did the development and execution of the Executive Order follow prescribed legal procedures necessary to be upheld in a court?

Throw that spaghetti against the wall and see if it sticks.  DC lawyers never turn down more billable hours.

I seem to remember the Dems holding Reagan to the fire for the Contras.

[240B]

Prostitution is a business transaction as old as mankind on Earth. Why is it illegal? Same reason alcohol is illegal on Sunday.
Because America was founded by Puritans.

[DefiantMassRINO]

Massachusetts Bay Colony was founded by the Puritans.

Rhode Island Plantation was found by people escaping Puritanism.

Puritanism still has significant reach in the laws, culture, literature, and history of Massachusetts.

Alas, those poor S.O.B.'s in Virginia missed out on the opporunity to exploit witch trials for economic gain.

Many of the Founding Fathers from Massachusetts were actually rebelling against the Puritanism of their forefathers.

In Massachusetts, you can now buy alcohol on Sunday.  I don't know about recreational marijuana.

[240B]

Massachusetts Bay Colony was founded by the Puritans.

Rhode Island Plantation was found by people escaping Puritanism.

Puritanism still has significant reach in the laws, culture, literature, and history of Massachusetts.

Alas, those poor S.O.B.'s in Virginia missed out on the opporunity to exploit witch trials for economic gain.

Many of the Founding Fathers from Massachusetts were actually rebelling against the Puritanism of their forefathers.

In Massachusetts, you can now buy alcohol on Sunday.  I don't know about recreational marijuana.

Some States have grown and wised up. But many other States still have institutionalized "Blue Laws", which are Puritanical codices from the 1600s. Not so long ago (recently in my lifetime) in many States it was illegal to buy a hammer, nails, shovel, pitchfork, or any work implement on Sunday. But yes definitely, no alcohol on Sunday or alcohol can only be sold after noon on Sunday is directly from 1600s Puritans. They thought if you couldn't drink or work that you would go to Church, which is what every good and righteous citizen of all colors should do anyway.

[roamer_1]

Some States have grown and wised up. But many other States still have institutionalized "Blue Laws", which are Puritanical codices from the 1600s. Not so long ago (recently in my lifetime) in many States it was illegal to buy a hammer, nails, shovel, pitchfork, or any work implement on Sunday. But yes definitely, no alcohol on Sunday or alcohol can only be sold after noon on Sunday is directly from 1600s Puritans. They thought if you couldn't drink or work that you would go to Church, which is what every good and righteous citizen of all colors should do anyway.

You can laugh at them all you want... But federalism says they have the right to live as they (as a state) prefer. If you don't like it, don't go there. but have the decency to let them be.

[240B]

You can laugh at them all you want... But federalism says they have the right to live as they (as a state) prefer. If you don't like it, don't go there. but have the decency to let them be.

Odd reaction? Federalism, OK? Didn't say it was good or bad, only that it exist. I have no crusade to change anything. As you say, they can do what they want. But yes, as a personal opinion, prostitution would be much safer for EVERYONE if it was legal. And not selling alcohol on Sunday does not make anyone decide to go to Church.

[mystery-ak]

FNC’s Turley Slams Biden Claims on Abortion — ‘Entirely and Demonstrably Untrue’


Trent Baker 8 Jul 2022

Friday on Fox News Channel’s “Outnumbered,” constitutional scholar Jonathan Turley blasted President Joe Biden’s remarks before signing an executive order on abortion access.

Turley noted that Biden referred to the U.S. Supreme Court justices that ruled to overturn Roe v. Wade as “extremists,” which the Fox News contributor said was “unfair.” He added that Biden was not telling the truth when he argued the court didn’t consider early English and American cases on abortion.

“There was much about these remarks that were quite curious,” Turley advised. “First of all, he seemed to refer to Griswold as standing for the opposite of what Griswold stands for. I mean, Griswold was the protection of that right. He seemed to refer to it as the rejection of the right to use contraception.”

He continued, “But there were some unfair moments directed at the court, not just calling them repeatedly, the justices, ‘extremists,’ but, you know, he says, as you noted, that they didn’t consider the early English and American cases on abortion. That’s entirely and demonstrably untrue. Now, you could disagree with how they view that history, but to say that they ignored it was really quite unfair. But there were other aspects that I expect justices were probably grinding their teeth when listening to this.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/07/08/fncs-turley-slams-biden-claims-on-abortion-entirely-and-demonstrably-untrue/

[Bigun]

You can laugh at them all you want... But federalism says they have the right to live as they (as a state) prefer. If you don't like it, don't go there. but have the decency to let them be.

Unfortunately, many here have NO idea what federalism is and have no wish to learn even though there would be no United States of America without it.

[DefiantMassRINO]

The Blue Law ban on businesses being open on Sunday was done away with in the early 1980s.

The Blue Law ban on alcohol sales on Sunday was only lifed in the late 1990s/early 2000s.

The motivation in both cases was financial, not moral or liberatarian - Massachusetts wanted more tax revenue ... for the children.

There's nothing like a good ol' fashioned Puritan shaming.  That does not work so well since President Slick Willy Clinton abolished shame in politics.

[Bigun]

FNC’s Turley Slams Biden Claims on Abortion — ‘Entirely and Demonstrably Untrue’

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Trent Baker 8 Jul 2022

Friday on Fox News Channel’s “Outnumbered,” constitutional scholar Jonathan Turley blasted President Joe Biden’s remarks before signing an executive order on abortion access.

Turley noted that Biden referred to the U.S. Supreme Court justices that ruled to overturn Roe v. Wade as “extremists,” which the Fox News contributor said was “unfair.” He added that Biden was not telling the truth when he argued the court didn’t consider early English and American cases on abortion.

“There was much about these remarks that were quite curious,” Turley advised. “First of all, he seemed to refer to Griswold as standing for the opposite of what Griswold stands for. I mean, Griswold was the protection of that right. He seemed to refer to it as the rejection of the right to use contraception.”

He continued, “But there were some unfair moments directed at the court, not just calling them repeatedly, the justices, ‘extremists,’ but, you know, he says, as you noted, that they didn’t consider the early English and American cases on abortion. That’s entirely and demonstrably untrue. Now, you could disagree with how they view that history, but to say that they ignored it was really quite unfair. But there were other aspects that I expect justices were probably grinding their teeth when listening to this.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/07/08/fncs-turley-slams-biden-claims-on-abortion-entirely-and-demonstrably-untrue/

 

[DefiantMassRINO]

So, does that make all observant Catholics "extremists"?

The Dems have been loosing ethnic Catholics for their "extremist" views supporting abortion and LGBTQ rights, and purging the Party of any candidate who is pro-life or socially conservative.

[roamer_1]

Odd reaction? Federalism, OK? Didn't say it was good or bad, only that it exist. I have no crusade to change anything. As you say, they can do what they want. But yes, as a personal opinion, prostitution would be much safer for EVERYONE if it was legal. And not selling alcohol on Sunday does not make anyone decide to go to Church.

Similar to legalizing gambling or drugs, what that will buy you is way more alcohol and prostitution. A statistical surety.

And as a fairly devout messianic, Shabbat is on Saturday... But I can certainly understand Christians wanting to preserve Sabbath. Used to be, in fact, that all stores were generally closed on Sunday here (and in Illinois too in my yoot), and I do not believe it to be an improvement that the day of rest no longer exists.

Now, there is no family gathering without some being unable to attend because of work.

And the point of it (as you should know) is not to prevent the purchase as much as forcing that rest- Not causing others to work on Sabbath.

[Hoodat]

Alas, those poor S.O.B.'s in Virginia missed out on the opportunity to exploit witch trials for economic gain.

They were too busy making bourbon.

[roamer_1]

Unfortunately, many here have NO idea what federalism is and have no wish to learn even though there would be no United States of America without it.

Every argument otherwise would be tainted by statism. One or the other, in all things. 

[DefiantMassRINO]

I'm waiting for the day Massachusetts legalizes prostitution, psychedelics, opium, and cocaine ... for the revenue ... for the children, of course.

They've already legalized casino gambling and recreational marijuana ... for the revenue ... for the children.

There is no greater amoral institution that a government in ravenous pursuit of new revenues to subsidize its further expansion ... for the children ... of state officials to get no-work, no-show jobs with benefits and pensions.

Thank God Massachusetts is not California.  It is only by maintaining divided state Government - Democratic Legislature and Republican Governorship - that we've avoided the fate is eveloping the Moonbat State.

[240B]

The Blue Law ban on businesses being open on Sunday was done away with in the early 1980s.

The Blue Law ban on alcohol sales on Sunday was only lifed in the late 1990s/early 2000s.

The motivation in both cases was financial, not moral or liberatarian - Massachusetts wanted more tax revenue ... for the children.

There's nothing like a good ol' fashioned Puritan shaming.  That does not work so well since President Slick Willy Clinton abolished shame in politics.

Everything you listed depends entirely on where you live. Your State may do all of those things, but many States are still enforcing Blue Laws to one degree or another for some reason. Has nothing to do with "shaming Puritans". They lived in their time. But why would we today still enforce religious laws of any kind from 600 years ago?

[Bigun]

Everything you listed depends entirely on where you live. Your State may do all of those things, but many States are still enforcing Blue Laws to one degree or another for some reason. Has nothing to do with "shaming Puritans". They lived in their time. But why would we today still enforce religious laws of any kind from 600 years ago?

Because God's laws are immutable and do not change over time.

[Kamaji]

Everything you listed depends entirely on where you live. Your State may do all of those things, but many States are still enforcing Blue Laws to one degree or another for some reason. Has nothing to do with "shaming Puritans". They lived in their time. But why would we today still enforce religious laws of any kind from 600 years ago?

New York still enforces certain blue laws.  One of the most obnoxious to me personally, is the requirement that dry cleaners - other than automated laundromats - must close on one day during the weekend; they can pick Saturday or Sunday, but they have to be closed on one day.

[roamer_1]

Because God's laws are immutable and do not change over time.

That answer is impeccably correct. 

[The_Reader_David]

So, does that make all observant Catholics "extremists"?

Actually, observant Catholics have always been regarded as extremists by the Left.  Heck, they tried genocide against them in the Vendee during the French Revolution for their extremist refusal to live under the rule of "Reason".  (Though down the years the Left has managed to martyr more Orthodox Christians than Latins -- they don't like us either, though here in the US we aren't numerous enough for them to take much notice.)

[christian]

Even though Biden signed the abortion EO's the driven mad baby butchers are demonstrating anyway, the real agenda of the commie socialists, destabilize America any way you can with what ever excuse you can come up with.
Before the Pres election, and now even after the election....and even though they got their candidate in office, Joe.