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MSNBC’s O’Donnell: Electoral College the ‘Most Grotesque Institution Ever Imposed’ on Democracy

Pam Key 7 Jul 2022

MSNBC anchor Lawrence O’Donnell said Thursday on his show “The Last Word” that the Electoral College was “the most grotesque institution ever imposed on a so-called democracy.”

O’Donnell said, “Today, the most clownish British prime minister of our lifetime announced his humiliating resignation pending the choice of a successor and thereby demonstrated, once again, the superiority of the British parliamentary system over the system chosen by our Founders, who believed they were smarter. And deciding to lock the country into fixed four-year terms, of presidents, who we now know, for partisan reasons, cannot be removed no matter what crimes they are caught committing. The Founders’ obsession to avoid all things British in government led them to the creation of the most grotesque institution ever imposed on a so-called democracy, the Electoral College. The only reason to worry about the fairness of the next presidential election is the Electoral College. Without the Electoral college, no problem. The Electoral College is one of the Founders’ many crimes against democracy.”

He added, “Other crimes against democracy by the Founders include two senators per state, not allowing anyone other than a small percentage of white men to vote, and not allowing anyone to vote for United States senators. The founders were experimenters in democracy. Not true believers in democracy. They were dabblers and democracy. Many of their obstacles to democracy that they put in the Constitution have been removed. Women are now allowed to vote. Black people are allowed to vote. Everyone now, at least, has the right to vote, theoretical right to vote.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/07/07/msnbcs-odonnell-electoral-college-the-most-grotesque-institution-ever-imposed-on-democracy/
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Lawrence O’Donnell claims to be from Dorchester, Mass, but doesn't have the local accent.

The Electoral College was a compromise among those who wanted the President to be elected by popular vote, those who wanted the President selected by Congress, and less populous states who were afraid result in their voices and interests being drowned out by the larger states.

The Electoral College is an imperfect mechanism to balance the majority rule of the more populous states and the minority rights of the less populous state.

As demographics continue to change, Liberal Democratic states that have been loosing House Seats over the past 30 years (such as Massachusettts, Connecticut, New Jersey, New York) will come to rely on this mechanism to avoid becoming irrelevant as Texas and Florida gain more House Seats.

AOC is right.  The Electoral College is affirmative action for rural states, but that was the compromise needed to get less populous states, like Delaware, to agree to ratify the US Constitition.

Our Founders did not want rule by fickle radical moods of the mob.  Our system is a conglomeration of institutional, Federal, and gubenatorial checks and balances.  That's why radical elements are frustrated on both sides.  In the heat of the moment, they are unable to fully impose their majority will upon the minority because no office, institution, branch of government, or government has unchecked unilateral authority.

The system is designed to slow roll radicalism so significant change requires super majorities, compromise, checks on power, and balance of power - all of which help the system persevere through the fickle radical whims of the mob.
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Lawrence O’Donnell claims to be from Dorchester, Mass, but doesn't have the local accent.

The Electoral College was a compromise among those who wanted the President to be elected by popular vote, those who wanted the President selected by Congress, and less populous states who were afraid result in their voices and interests being drowned out by the larger states.

The Electoral College is an imperfect mechanism to balance the majority rule of the more populous states and the minority rights of the less populous state.

As demographics continue to change, Liberal Democratic states that have been loosing House Seats over the past 30 years (such as Massachusettts, Connecticut, New Jersey, New York) will come to rely on this mechanism to avoid becoming irrelevant as Texas and Florida gain more House Seats.

AOC is right.  The Electoral College is affirmative action for rural states, but that was the compromise needed to get less populous states, like Delaware, to agree to ratify the US Constitition.

Our Founders did not want rule by fickle radical moods of the mob.  Our system is a conglomeration of institutional, Federal, and gubenatorial checks and balances.  That's why radical elements are frustrated on both sides.  In the heat of the moment, they are unable to fully impose their majority will upon the minority because no office, institution, branch of government, or government has unchecked unilateral authority.

The system is designed to slow roll radicalism so significant change requires super majorities, compromise, checks on power, and balance of power - all of which help the system persevere through the fickle radical whims of the mob.

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AOC is right.  The Electoral College is affirmative action for rural states, but that was the compromise needed to get less populous states, like Delaware, to agree to ratify the US Constitition.


I take exception to that statement. In fact, if it were not for the electoral college, the voting power (and thus, representation) in this country would be perfected and centered in regions that have megacities - And those regions already absolutely governed by those cities. The entire population of these United States would be at the whim and mercy of those few cities - Whose populations are indelibly liberal, entirely self-obsessed, forever condescending toward what they consider hicks in flyover country, and who are invincibly ignorant  of anything without sidewalks.

No, The leveling presented in the electoral college is not only the best remedy, it should be expanded and adopted into state systems for the same purpose - to keep those self same cities from governing the states they are in.

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