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Ukraine lays out $750B ‘recovery plan’ for postwar future
Fox2  Now, Jul 4, 2022, Associated Press

LUGANO, Switzerland (AP) — Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Monday the reconstruction of his war-battered country is the “common task of the entire democratic world,” as his prime minister laid out a $750 billion recovery plan once invading Russia’s guns fall silent.

As Russian forces continued their crushing advance in Ukraine’s eastern Donbas region, Zelenskyy spoke by video message to the Ukraine Recovery Conference in Switzerland about the needs of the country that has been on an up-and-down march toward democracy since the end of the Cold War and now faces widespread devastation.

“The reconstruction of Ukraine is not a local project, is not a project of one nation, but a common task of the entire democratic world — all countries, all countries who can say they are civilized,” Zelenskyy told hundreds of attendees in Lugano. ”Restoring Ukraine means restoring the principles of life, restoring the space of life, restoring everything that makes humans humans.”

British Foreign Secretary Liz Truss said such a recovery would require a sort of “Marshall Plan” for Ukraine to help it rebuild.

Such ambitions, Zelenskyy said, will require wide-scale construction, funding and security “in all of our country which will be forced to continue living beside Russia.”

“Today, we’re all united in our defense. Tomorrow in our reconstruction,” said Ukrainian Prime Minister Denys Shymhal, who attended in person. He presented a recovery plan that meets immediate needs — even as the war continues — followed by a “fast recovery” when it’s over, and then longer-term requirements.


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Re: Ukraine lays out $750B ‘recovery plan’ for postwar future
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2022, 05:26:50 pm »
Ah, Mr. Zelensky, you can go ahead and forward that invoice to the EU.

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Re: Ukraine lays out $750B ‘recovery plan’ for postwar future
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2022, 05:32:21 pm »
Considering we're looking at $1 trillion dollars to rebuild one European shithole, how badly does the world really need a Ukraine??  It's been 30 years, isn't it time to shift those borders anyway??

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Re: Ukraine lays out $750B ‘recovery plan’ for postwar future
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2022, 05:46:35 pm »
how badly does the world really need a Ukraine??

A heck of a lot more than the world needs a Russia that inflicts these types of atrocities with reckless disregard for human life to neighboring countries.
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Re: Ukraine lays out $750B ‘recovery plan’ for postwar future
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2022, 05:48:13 pm »
A heck of a lot more than the world needs a Russia that inflicts these types of atrocities with reckless disregard for human life to neighboring countries.

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Re: Ukraine lays out $750B ‘recovery plan’ for postwar future
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2022, 06:02:28 pm »
A heck of a lot more than the world needs a Russia that inflicts these types of atrocities with reckless disregard for human life to neighboring countries.

Better hope Germany and France agree.   :whistle:

BTW, what say you about the atrocities and reckless, deliberate disregard by Kiev for those they claim are its own citizens, especially in the Donbas region?

There are no good guys .... and Zelensky should end this war while he has a chance of getting something out of it. 

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Re: Ukraine lays out $750B ‘recovery plan’ for postwar future
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2022, 06:09:23 pm »
There are no good guys ....

There is certainly a bad guy here.  Your attempt to equate Ukraine with Russia is egregiously disingenuous.
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Re: Ukraine lays out $750B ‘recovery plan’ for postwar future
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2022, 06:12:21 pm »
There is certainly a bad guy here.  Your attempt to equate Ukraine with Russia is egregiously disingenuous.

Yup.

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Re: Ukraine lays out $750B ‘recovery plan’ for postwar future
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2022, 08:45:04 pm »
Better hope Germany and France agree.   :whistle:

BTW, what say you about the atrocities and reckless, deliberate disregard by Kiev for those they claim are its own citizens, especially in the Donbas region?

There are no good guys .... and Zelensky should end this war while he has a chance of getting something out of it.



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Re: Ukraine lays out $750B ‘recovery plan’ for postwar future
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2022, 09:13:23 pm »
"Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Monday the reconstruction of his war-battered country is the “common task of the entire democratic world,” as his prime minister laid out a $750 billion recovery plan once invading Russia’s guns fall silent."

NO... !!
NO DEAL.

Instead of recognizing reality and trying to negotiate a settlement, you caused the destruction of your own country by fighting until much of your nation was in ruins and continues to be pummeled even now.

Find your "billions to rebuild" somewhere else.

It's time to call for a truce, and be ready to concede the territories you've lost.

Otherwise, a good portion of THE REST OF Ukraine will get leveled, as well.

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Re: Ukraine lays out $750B ‘recovery plan’ for postwar future
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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2022, 02:11:27 pm »
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We should be electing people to congress who are more interested in saving their own country than laundering billions in Ukraine.

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Re: Ukraine lays out $750B ‘recovery plan’ for postwar future
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2022, 02:17:19 pm »
They can't wait until the war's end to embezzle money.  Classic.
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Re: Ukraine lays out $750B ‘recovery plan’ for postwar future
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2022, 02:23:04 pm »
Negatory. This is a bridge too far.

To even consider it, there would have to be serious corruption reforms which will never even be put on the table, so no dice.
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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2022, 02:32:33 pm »
I have no problem with Russia forking over $750 billion to rebuild what they have destroyed.
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« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2022, 02:38:23 pm »
Hell No.

We are more debt wedged than any of the EU economic powerhouses.  Zellinski can go F himself.
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« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2022, 02:39:13 pm »
I have no problem with Russia forking over $750 billion to rebuild what they have destroyed.

lol....

I'll put that in the same file as Mexico building the wall.  :silly:
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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2022, 04:43:01 pm »
There is certainly a bad guy here.  Your attempt to equate Ukraine with Russia is egregiously disingenuous.

There are a lot of bad guys in this sh*tshow, including Zellensky.  If you could stop pining for the Cold War when your world last made sense, you just might be able to understand this and move into the 21st Century.

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« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2022, 05:52:38 pm »
There are a lot of bad guys in this sh*tshow, including Zellensky.

One bad guy stands out far above the rest.  Again, to equate him with Zelenskiy is egregiously disingenuous.  Keep in mind which of the two invaded a sovereign country and who has been indiscriminately bombing/shelling/destroying the civilian population and infrastructure of said country for the last 4½ months.


If you could stop pining for the Cold War

The exact opposite is true.  I don't want another Cold War.  That is why Russia must be stopped now.  Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.


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Ukraine’s prime minister says rebuilding will cost $750 billion.
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2022, 07:06:44 pm »
By Dan Bilefsky and Nick Cumming-Bruce

    July 5, 2022 Updated 2:24 p.m. ET

For Ukrainians living through war, the cost of the conflict is hard to measure: Thousands of people killed, countless homes and buildings destroyed by missiles, families displaced, livelihoods lost. But international leaders are gathering in the lakeside Swiss town of Lugano for a second day on Tuesday in an attempt to do just that.

The leaders, joined by aid organizations and financial institutions, are mapping out the monumental effort it will take to rebuild the battle-damaged areas Ukraine still holds when the war ends.

Nearly five months of war has damaged crucial infrastructure — factories, airports, railway stations — and obliterated residential buildings, schools, hospitals, churches and shopping malls. And the bombs continue to fall. Ukraine’s prime minister, Denys Shmyhal, told those assembled in Lugano on Monday that the cost of rebuilding was estimated at $750 billion.

President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine had warned the conference that the task of rebuilding the country would be “colossal.” Russia’s indiscriminate shelling was an attempt not just to destroy Ukraine but also the vision of democracy and Europe, he said by video link, making the war “not just ours, not just a local one.”

“This is Russia’s attack on everything that is of value to you and me,” he added. “Therefore, the reconstruction of Ukraine is not a local project, not a project of one nation, but a joint task of the entire democratic world.”

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Re: Ukraine’s prime minister says rebuilding will cost $750 billion.
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2022, 07:20:09 pm »
Maybe they should get back to us when they've actually won the war.
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Re: Ukraine’s prime minister says rebuilding will cost $750 billion.
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2022, 07:53:05 pm »
Maybe they should get back to us when they've actually won the war.



That's a good point. And I also wonder is Russia could be forced to pay for reconstruction if they do.

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Re: Ukraine lays out $750B ‘recovery plan’ for postwar future
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2022, 05:28:58 am »
The exact opposite is true.  I don't want another Cold War.  That is why Russia must be stopped now.  Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

What about the reincarnation of NATO as an expantionist, offensive alliance?  What role is this playing in your reinvigorized Cold War?

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« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2022, 06:25:14 am »
What about the reincarnation of NATO as an expantionist, offensive alliance?

Offensive?  Please.


What role is this playing in your reinvigorized Cold War?

What part of "I don't want another Cold War" are you having difficulty with?  And for the record, the only reason Finland and Sweden want to now join NATO is because they are seeing the atrocities that Russia is inflicting on their neighbor.  The only one here reinvigorating the Cold War is Vladimir Putin, the man you describe as a "protector" and a "liberator".  Putin can go to hell as far as I'm concerned.  His actions speak for themselves.  He is a monster and a war criminal.



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