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China launches high-tech aircraft carrier in naval milestone

By Associated Press
June 17, 2022

BEIJING — Beijing launched a new-generation aircraft carrier Friday, the first such ship to be both designed and built in China, in a milestone as it seeks to extend the range and power of its navy.

The Type 003 carrier christened Fujian left its drydock at a shipyard outside Shanghai in the morning and tied up at a nearby pier, state media reports said.

State broadcaster CCTV showed assembled navy personnel standing beneath the massive ship as water jets sprayed over its deck, multi-colored streamers flew and colorful smoke was released.

Equipped with the latest weaponry and aircraft-launch technology, the Type 003 ship’s capabilities are thought to rival those of Western carriers, as Beijing seeks to turn its navy, already the world’s largest, into a multi-carrier force.

Satellite imagery captured by Planet Labs PBC on Thursday and analyzed by The Associated Press showed the carrier in what appeared to be a fully flooded drydock at the Jiangnan Shipyard, near Shanghai, ready for launch. It was draped with red bunting, presumably in preparation for the launch ceremony.

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2022/06/17/china-launches-high-tech-aircraft-carrier-in-naval-milestone/

Offline PeteS in CA

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Re: China launches high-tech aircraft carrier in naval milestone
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2022, 06:17:40 pm »
It's slightly larger than a 1960s vintage Kittyhawk class carrier, non-nuclear-powered (= needs frequent/occasional refueling), and estimates of its complement are around 40-50 fighters (half or less the complement of a Kittyhawk class carrier). It is ~50% larger than the HMS Queen Elizabeth, with ~25% greater aircraft complement. It is double the size if the French carrier Charles de Gaulle, and again, with ~25% greater aircraft complement.

So Fujian is roughly the size of the USN's last conventionally powered aircraft carrier class, but with half the capability (in terms of number of aircraft carried). The nuclear-fueled Nimitz class (=no tankers needed) is a bit larger and has double or more the aircraft complement. As the Russians and French have learned, very expensively, in recent decades, aircraft carriers are very complex systems. The Admiral Kuznetsov and Charles De Gaulle both have had serious reliability problems. The Fujian is a big unknown in this regard.

There are two huge, highly relevant unknowns. Launching and recovering aircraft imposes stresses greater than those experienced by land-based aircraft. Does China, whose engine producers struggle to produce engines of thrust similar to Russian or US engines, have designs able to handle the stresses of carrier usage?

The USN has developed its plane handling and combat doctrines over the period of a century. Launching and recovering multi-plane strikes and single-plane missions is a highly skilled and choreographed process. Planning and carrying out missions is similarly complex, and not the same as for land-based air squadrons (whose major mission and training traditionally has been defending home territory). Does China have the multi-faceted doctrine and trained personnel to use this new weapon?
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Re: China launches high-tech aircraft carrier in naval milestone
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2022, 07:20:19 pm »
Was this carrier built out of quality steel, or the crap they sell us? Also if it is a conventionally powered ship is t really high tech? Couldn't Joe and Hunter get them the plans for our actual high tech carriers?

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Re: China launches high-tech aircraft carrier in naval milestone
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2022, 09:49:30 pm »
I'm sure its propulsion is more modern than 1940s Essex class or 1960s Kittyhawk class carriers, but it still will be tethered to port or tanker refueling.

One of the constant logistics factors in every WW2 naval operation - whether USN or RN or IJN or ... - was the need for refueling. The USN didn't go all-nuclear with carriers and submarines because nuclear technology is cool.

Similarly, flight deck operations efficiency and tactical doctrine were also critical in several WW2 battles. E.G., USN strike organization and launching at Midway was abysmal. OTOH, IJN strike choices and doctrine, near lack of CAP direction, and damage control equipment (inadequate and vulnerable) and doctrine (specialists-only, concentrated in vulnerable areas) made Kido Butai carriers vulnerable to strikes and damage control extremely difficult. After the loss of four flight decks, the IJN's greatest loss was the world-class plane handlers, technicians, and mechanics who were slaughtered when the four carriers were hit and the bombs went off in the hangar decks.

The above just illustrates how important multi-disciplinary expertise is in using a weapons system as complex as an aircraft carrier.
« Last Edit: June 17, 2022, 10:03:07 pm by PeteS in CA »
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Re: China launches high-tech aircraft carrier in naval milestone
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2022, 11:43:47 am »
Nimitz and her sisters still need tankers, but for aviation fuel. Also needs pretty regular un-reps for stores, parts, etc.