BREAKING: Active shooter at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, school district says

[Smokin Joe]

Did they do something to the water in Texas?

I don't think it is limited to Texas.

[mountaineer]

Sadly, there's also been some true nuttery going on in Florida public schools. We expect better of TX and FL, but here we are. 

[Kamaji]

Did they do something to the water in Texas?

Probably has to do with union rules.  Another reason why union power over schools needs to be reduced.

[Cyber Liberty]

Probably has to do with union rules.  Another reason why union power over schools needs to be reduced.

Hmmmm.  I dunno, I always thought Principals were considered "Management" and not union members.   On the other hand, that doesn't stop the unions from advocating on a non-member Principal's behalf....

[sneakypete]

Did they do something to the water in Texas?

@verga

Somebody remind me what she did wrong. She is a Principal,not a cop.

[Kamaji]

Hmmmm.  I dunno, I always thought Principals were considered "Management" and not union members.   On the other hand, that doesn't stop the unions from advocating on a non-member Principal's behalf....

There is the American Federation of School Administrators, which represents public school principals, vice principals, administrators, and supervisors and is associated with the AFL-CIO.

[Cyber Liberty]

@verga

Somebody remind me what she did wrong. She is a Principal,not a cop.

She sets the tone for how her employees view security and the like.  Supposedly a teacher left the door open for the shooter.

She may or may not have done anything specific to allow/cause this to happen, but she's responsible for all activities, like an officer in the Army.

[sneakypete]

She sets the tone for how her employees view security and the like.  Supposedly a teacher left the door open for the shooter.

She may or may not have done anything specific to allow/cause this to happen, but she's responsible for all activities, like an officer in the Army.

@Cyber Liberty

Whatever happened to the concept of "blame the guilty party"?

[Cyber Liberty]

@Cyber Liberty

Whatever happened to the concept of "blame the guilty party"?

Whatever happened to Principals taking responsibility for the actions of their employees' actions?

[DCPatriot]

Whatever happened to Principals taking responsibility for the actions of their employees' actions?

Facts are, that the "Prepared" school staff are the aberration.  This could have begun at any school. (Speaking about the unlocked doors for convenience, etc..)

[roamer_1]

Facts are, that the "Prepared" school staff are the aberration.  This could have begun at any school. (Speaking about the unlocked doors for convenience, etc..)

That's true... And nearly always going to happen. Sec minded folks are rigid. Life does not conform to rigidity. Most human hacks are centered in the apathy of the mundane.

[Cyber Liberty]

Facts are, that the "Prepared" school staff are the aberration.  This could have begun at any school. (Speaking about the unlocked doors for convenience, etc..)

That's true... And nearly always going to happen. Sec minded folks are rigid. Life does not conform to rigidity. Most human hacks are centered in the apathy of the mundane.

 

[roamer_1]

 

 

[verga]

@verga

Somebody remind me what she did wrong. She is a Principal,not a cop.

She allowed the teachers to be lax in security, nor did she make sure that the lock had been repaired.

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/UnivHealthSA/status/1553141167163858945

 July 30, 2022 6:32am EDT
Uvalde, Texas: Final victim of mass shooting discharged from San Antonio hospital
A San Antonio hospital released the last of its patients who were injured in the mass shooting in Uvalde, Texas that left 19 students and two teachers dead in May
By Lawrence Richard | Fox News

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/uvalde-texas-final-victim-mass-shooting-discharged-san-antonio-hospital

[sneakypete]

She allowed the teachers to be lax in security, nor did she make sure that the lock had been repaired.

@verga

She is a Principal,not a Master Sergeant.  The security in the school would have been fine IF the individuals responsible for the lapses had just obeyed the rules already established.

Also,how do you even know the broken lock had been reported to her? After all,her job is to ensure the children get an adequate education,or what passes as an adequate education these days,not a maintenance manager. The school has someone else hired to do that job.

[Kamaji]

@verga

She is a Principal,not a Master Sergeant.  The security in the school would have been fine IF the individuals responsible for the lapses had just obeyed the rules already established.

Also,how do you even know the broken lock had been reported to her? After all,her job is to ensure the children get an adequate education,or what passes as an adequate education these days,not a maintenance manager. The school has someone else hired to do that job.

She's responsible for making sure that all teachers and staff are following mandatory security requirements, and she failed to do so.  She bears responsibility for that.

[Cyber Liberty]

She's responsible for making sure that all teachers and staff are following mandatory security requirements, and she failed to do so.  She bears responsibility for that.

Not anymore she doesn't.  Scot-free.  Must have some good Democrat friends.

[Bigun]

Not anymore she doesn't.  Scot-free.  Must have some good Democrat friends.

It appears that Uvalde is still a Democrat enclave.

[verga]

@verga

She is a Principal,not a Master Sergeant.  The security in the school would have been fine IF the individuals responsible for the lapses had just obeyed the rules already established.

Also,how do you even know the broken lock had been reported to her? After all,her job is to ensure the children get an adequate education,or what passes as an adequate education these days,not a maintenance manager. The school has someone else hired to do that job.

I can't speak for al districts, but in the ones I worked at the Principal is the one that puts in all repair/ work orders. Further if she is not checking to make sure proper procedures are being followed, then she is negligent.

[sneakypete]

I can't speak for al districts, but in the ones I worked at the Principal is the one that puts in all repair/ work orders. Further if she is not checking to make sure proper procedures are being followed, then she is negligent.

@verga

Granted that I am a geezer,but I never went to any public school in my life that didn't have full-time maintenance men hired to let the Principle (their boss) know what needed to be done,and either did the repairs themselves,or supervised/observed them being done.

[Cyber Liberty]

@verga

Granted that I am a geezer,but I never went to any public school in my life that didn't have full-time maintenance men hired to let the Principle (their boss) know what needed to be done,and either did the repairs themselves,or supervised/observed them being done.

I guess that would depend on the local policies.   

[Bigun]

I guess that would depend on the local policies.   

In most of Texas, school principals are like warden at our prison units in that EVERYTHING on their unit is their responsibility.

[verga]

In most of Texas, school principals are like warden at our prison units in that EVERYTHING on their unit is their responsibility.

I won't speak for other counties, but that is the way it is in my county here in VA

[Elderberry]

Uvalde families to file $27 billion civil lawsuit against police, gunmaker over school shooting

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2022/08/uvalde-families-to-file-27-billion-civil-lawsuit-against-police-gunmaker-over-school-shooting/

The families of the victims and survivors of the Robb Elementary School massacre in Uvalde, Texas, are preparing to file a massive lawsuit against the local and state police, the shop that sold gunman Salvador Ramos his weapon and the manufacturer who made the gun.

Attorney Charles Bonner announced Sunday that he is filing a $27 billion civil rights lawsuit against the Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District Police Department, school police chief Pete Arredondo, sheriff’s offices, the Texas Rangers, the Texas Department of Public Safety, Border Patrol, the Uvalde Independent School District school board, the Uvalde City Council and the City of Uvalde.

Also listed in the lawsuit are gun manufacturer Daniel Defense and Oasis Outback, where Ramos bought the gun.

More at link.