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Time to change the course in Ukraine
« on: May 18, 2024, 02:36:25 pm »
May 18, 2024
Time to change the course in Ukraine
By Edward Lozansky

The recent statement by the former Joint Chiefs chairman Mark Milley — “We slaughtered people in massive numbers, innocent people who had nothing to do with their government, men, women, and children” — is a rare admission by someone in his rank.  At the same time, in March 2023,  still on active duty, Milley said that Ukrainians on the current battlefields are the sons and grandsons of the people who fought against Stalin and Zhukov.  Not sure if he realizes that both these statements actually disparage or even betray American World War II veterans, since Milley should have known that we were allies with Stalin in the war with the Nazis.

Still, when it comes to the war in Ukraine, which is at the center of the current crisis, one should admit that Milley’s rhetoric is less dangerous compared with what is emanating from Biden, Blinken, and Sullivan or some of their NATO and E.U. colleagues, like Sunak, Macron, Scholz, Duda, and co.  It seems there is no indication that they are prepared to listen to the sober voices calling to give a chance for diplomacy to end the Ukraine war.

In the U.S., the list of these voices is long and includes university professors and think-tank experts; retired military, intelligence officers, and diplomats; journalists; and even members of Congress — regrettably, so far, only Republicans.

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Instead, House Democrat leader Hakeem Jeffries did not rule out that the U.S. would have to send troops to the Ukrainian conflict zone if Kyiv is defeated.  “We can’t let Ukraine fall because if that happens, there is a significant possibility that America will have to get involved in the conflict, not just with our money, but with our troops,” Jeffries said.  He also claimed that a pro-Russian faction within the Republican Party was gaining momentum and “does not want to support Ukraine and believes that Russia is not an enemy of the United States.”

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Re: Time to change the course in Ukraine
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2024, 09:20:54 pm »
What "course" does Edward Lozansky suggest that does not mean Ukraine continuing to fight or surrendering to Russian invaders? He's on "American Thinker" so I doubt he's thought that far.
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Re: Time to change the course in Ukraine
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2024, 09:27:41 pm »
Just more dishonest euphemisms for surrendering to Putin.

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Inviting Russia to join in these celebrations would be a grandstand showing that at least some of the sacred values of Western civilization are still alive.

This is just plain stupid because Putin is just as bad as both Hitler and Stalin, and never negotiates anything in good faith.
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Re: Time to change the course in Ukraine
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Instead, House Democrat leader Hakeem Jeffries did not rule out that the U.S. would have to send troops to the Ukrainian conflict zone if Kyiv is defeated.  “We can’t let Ukraine fall because if that happens, there is a significant possibility that America will have to get involved in the conflict, not just with our money, but with our troops,” Jeffries said.

Maybe you should have thought of that when Biden was diverting tens of billions in Ukraine aid money to the State Department while they were blocking MiG-29 transfers to Kyiv.  With the amount of money earmarked for 'the defense of Ukraine' so far, if that money had been spent on actual weapons instead, this war would be over by now.
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