I pointed out a legitimate point of the article that was missing which really makes a difference to the outcome of the story.
Are you so thin skinned you cannot hear any other side of the story?
If you want to hear only one side and become ignorant and stupid be my guest.
BTW This will be my last post.
Some of you are truly the most misinformed people I have ever met. Some of you have been extremely gracious
What is scary is some of you do know how stupid and ignorant you really are.
Continue to run off people with a viewpoint other than your own
This site will continue to be a extremely small echo chamber and will eventually die.
Thank you Nancy for allowing me to express my opinion.
@nancy-ak
Opinions are like armpits. Most folks have a couple.
I really don't think we are in danger of becoming an echo chamber for lack of bullshit.
Or would you want the flat earth people in here derailing threads?
Good discussion does not require agreement, but it works best if people have done some research, investigating quality sources. I recall the anticipation of an Ice Age in 1978, the year I got my geology degree, and the brutal weather I experienced in the years that followed, with official temperatures reaching 54 below zero, announced by the NWS, conveyed on the radio and television. Now those 'official low temperatures' have been warmed up by nearly ten degrees.
Why? to lift the warming curve. The datasets are corrupted; you cannot often draw valid conclusions from corrupted data.
The entire panic makes as much sense as panic over an ice age did in 1978, because there are several cycles involved in determining climate, it's natural, and we humans, as egotistical a species as we may be, are not in control. We can take steps which will block the sun, but we'd do so at our peril as a species, not just 'civilization', and we'd likely take a seriously diverse group of other critters with us into extinction.
Over time dozens of megafaunas have been eliminated, providing nice dating horizons in the fossil record, but doom for those critters. Despite our hubris, we are no different in requiring food, water, shelter, oxygen, safety from predators, and the opportunity to reproduce. Without that, stick a fork in humanity, it's done.
What I fail to understand is why so many of our species are calling for the extinction of our species, not only a major flaw in the normal and natural survival instincts most 'lesser' creatures have, but a suicidal mass formation psychosis.
I choose not to partake, and the irony in that is that the persistence of those nutjobs will, at some point, force the sane to act in their own ordinary interests for their mutual survival, refusing to be herded like livestock into a civilizational buffalo jump, holding back while the lemmings propel themselves into oblivion. As a scientist, my mind is 99.99% made up on this issue of Anthropogenic Global Warming, now rebranded as "Climate Change".
Sure, the climate changes.
As a geologist studying the deposits left (and even eroded away) in the past, the changes in those depositional environments in the past reflect the climates those rocks formed in. I have seen hundreds of thousands of samples from wellbores drilled down to crystalline bedrock in some instances, from West Texas to the Canadian border, from the East Coast to the crest of the Rocky Mountains and beyond into the Basin and Range of Utah and Nevada, and in every instance, those rocks reflect a changing climate...
...long before (hundreds of millions of years before) the first humans made a footprint, carbon or otherwise.
Papers (peer-reviewed) I have read of the studies of other Geologists indicate this is a world wide phenomenon, not just limited to the third of a continent I have personally studied.
I have looked at the data from the Vostok Ice cores, where increases in CO2 follow after warming. Just as a warming carbonated beverage gives off CO2 as it warms (because the solubility of CO2 in water decreases as temperature increases), the oceans warming with the rest of the planet release dissolved CO2 in response to warming temperatures. At no point has this caused a 'runaway' greenhouse effect, despite far higher atmospheric concentrations of CO2 in the past, and because the effect of increasing CO2 on temperature goes asymptotic. Otherwise, there would have been natural greenhouse runaways seen in past climates, which simply are not in evidence.
Note that in the instance where a natural concentration of radioactive minerals reached critical mass naturally
https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/earth-natural-nuclear-reactor/, we can cause this to happen artificially.
If we duplicate the CO2 concentrations of the past, we'd expect a similar result to what has happened in those circumstances in the past. Yet we are far below past CO2 atmospheric concentrations, and we are told by those attempting to panic the unwary that somehow this will produce an unprecedented planet wide warming result imperiling all life on the planet, despite that NOT happening in the past.
Certain rules of physics and chemistry apply, and one should not anticipate unique results from something that has happened many times before (runaway planetary temperatures from slightly higher atmospheric concentrations of CO2 than those present today).
Why do the increases in sea level
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/interactive/2024/southern-us-sea-level-rise-risk-cities/ vary from 2.3 inches (Mass.) to 8.4 inches in Texas (Houston)? It's all the same sea. Water seeks its own level.
Obviously, something else is going on.
Geologic subsidence, sometimes due to aquifer depletion, sometimes due to dewatering and flow of unconsolidated sediments, might be a more credible culprit.
Natural dissolution of rocks in the subsurface can account for subsidence, too, especially in areas underlain by limestone, some times with catastrophic results, but not all of that is manifested as sinkholes. In coastal areas, that could be particularly troubling, but if you built somewhere where the mean high tide mark is within a few inches of your doorstep, I hope you did so with your eyes open, a boat handy, and deep pockets, because insurance is going to be expensive.
Hurricanes, Typhoons, and 'tropical depressions' have been around long before anyone started pointing to global warming. The results have been downright catastrophic for some (the Spanish Treasure Fleet didn't fare well), but fantastic for others (ask Mel Fisher's family who found the
Atocha).
For your average residential area, higher ground or other safeguards may be in order.
I grew up on a Tidewater Estuary, where those who lived on land 20 ft above sea level were safe from all but the most severe storm surges, those with lower lying properties built on hills, artificially crafted mounds, or even pilings (inland) to raise the majority of their homes above any anticipated water level. Those who did not suffered from their poor choices. If you build on a beach, well that's a different story, and on you.
Why are the damages increasing every year? Because the property values and replacement costs are increasing every year, especially with inflation. So the storm that would have taken out a dozen or so shacks before 'beachy' living became popular, resulting in a few thousands, or even a few tens of thousands of dollars worth of damages, clears millions of dollars worth of property from the same real estate today. It will cost more next month.
Of course every storm is worse than the one before it if measured in dollars, or the number of refugees (there were no high rise condos there before).
And it is shameful, what has been done to scientific inquiry, by not only those charlatans in the 'climate science' field, but to Medicine as well, quite arguably, for a profit or the political license to impose edicts through the usurpation of power in something declared to be an 'emergency' in exchange for status, fame and grant money (or other compensation).
When all the chips are down, capricious acts, even those based on making a profit, are likely to yield results that have far reaching and unanticipated consequences for the normal order of things in the future. Power seized is seldom returned, no matter the alleged good intentions.
Which is what has made the past thirty plus years of environmentalist indoctrination particularly repugnant. Not only has science been trashed by snake oil salesmen, our very form of Government has been imperiled by the same lot, and mostly for a buck.
