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[Right_in_Virginia]

(Zimerman is based in Jerusalem )

Erik Zimerman
@ZimermanErik

Reports emerging that #Ukraine, apparently believing itself to be 1960's Israel, and #Russia 1960's Iraq, (not to mention Russian pilots to be Christian Assyrians in Iraq), tried to recruit #Russian pilots to defect with their planes (ie SU-24 / 34). The failed UA intelligence

operation was busted and "flipped" by a successful Russian FSB counter-intelligence operation. The UA intelligence agents were reportedly lured to identify themselves, other trusted sources, and UA anti-aircraft systems details & positions. A defecting pilot for example would

reasonably need to know many such details in order to fly over Ukrainian territory with a reasonable assurance of not being shot down and killed. This was a creative idea, one I could see coming form the likes of #Arestovych or other Ukrainian well read in history, specifically,

Israeli history, as the Mossad famously successfully captured the West's first Mig-21 in 1966 in a similar operation (Operation Diamond). The difference of course is in the quality of execution. This begins by knowing the potential loyalties (& disloyalties) of your foes and

their general mindset and motivations. Ukrainian agents here likely erred badly, since their government's propaganda so incorrectly portrays Russian troops, their loyalties and motivations.


7:59 AM · Jul 25, 2022·Twitter Web App

[bilo]

That, and they are flat-out one of the most maneuverable aircraft I have ever seen in motion.

Any military support we can give Ukraine that destroys the Russians is a great investment in my book. I do know the WH is a great tank killer. If giving Ukraine our older WH's is going to help expel the Russians I'm all for it. I just don't want to see us give weaponry to Ukraine that doesn't help.

[libertybele]

(Zimerman is based in Jerusalem )

Erik Zimerman
@ZimermanErik

Reports emerging that #Ukraine, apparently believing itself to be 1960's Israel, and #Russia 1960's Iraq, (not to mention Russian pilots to be Christian Assyrians in Iraq), tried to recruit #Russian pilots to defect with their planes (ie SU-24 / 34). The failed UA intelligence

operation was busted and "flipped" by a successful Russian FSB counter-intelligence operation. The UA intelligence agents were reportedly lured to identify themselves, other trusted sources, and UA anti-aircraft systems details & positions. A defecting pilot for example would

reasonably need to know many such details in order to fly over Ukrainian territory with a reasonable assurance of not being shot down and killed. This was a creative idea, one I could see coming form the likes of #Arestovych or other Ukrainian well read in history, specifically,

Israeli history, as the Mossad famously successfully captured the West's first Mig-21 in 1966 in a similar operation (Operation Diamond). The difference of course is in the quality of execution. This begins by knowing the potential loyalties (& disloyalties) of your foes and

their general mindset and motivations. Ukrainian agents here likely erred badly, since their government's propaganda so incorrectly portrays Russian troops, their loyalties and motivations.


7:59 AM · Jul 25, 2022·Twitter Web App

A probability and IMO more than likely.

[libertybele]

Any military support we can give Ukraine that destroys the Russians is a great investment in my book. I do know the WH is a great tank killer. If giving Ukraine our older WH's is going to help expel the Russians I'm all for it. I just don't want to see us give weaponry to Ukraine that doesn't help.

OR them stockpiling those weapons to be used against us at a later date.

[Right_in_Virginia]

OR them stockpiling those weapons to be used against us at a later date.

Or that are sold on the black market

[Elderberry]

Russia says it wants to end Ukraine's 'unacceptable regime'

The Sumter Item by SUSIE BLANN 7/26/2022

https://www.theitem.com/stories/russia-says-it-wants-to-end-ukraines-unacceptable-regime,385708

KYIV, Ukraine - Russia's top diplomat said Moscow's overarching goal in Ukraine is to free its people from its "unacceptable regime," expressing the Kremlin's war aims in some of the bluntest terms yet as its forces pummel the country with artillery barrages and airstrikes.

The remark from Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov comes amid Ukraine's efforts to resume grain exports from its Black Sea ports -something that would help ease global food shortages - under a new deal tested by a Russian strike on Odesa during the weekend.

"We are determined to help the people of eastern Ukraine to liberate themselves from the burden of this absolutely unacceptable regime," Lavrov said at an Arab League summit in Cairo late Sunday, referring to Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelenskyy's government.

Apparently suggesting that Moscow's war aims extend beyond Ukraine's industrial Donbas region in the east, Lavrov said: "We will certainly help the Ukrainian people to get rid of the regime, which is absolutely anti-people and anti-historical."

Lavrov's comments followed his warning last week that Russia plans to retain control over broader areas beyond eastern Ukraine, including the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions in the south, and will make more gains elsewhere.

More at link.

[Hoodat]

Or that are sold on the black market

For the third time, do you have any evidence of this occurring?

[Hoodat]

KYIV, Ukraine - Russia's top diplomat said Moscow's overarching goal in Ukraine is to free its people from its "unacceptable regime,"

This is what the "acceptable regime is doing to the Ukraine people:

[sneakypete]

This is what the "acceptable regime is doing to the Ukraine people:

@Hoodat

Well,death IS the ultimate release from worry.

[txradioguy]

It should be an Army aircraft, period.  Army purchase.  Army pilots.  Army maintenance.  They shouldn't let the Air Force have anything to do with them.

If the stories can be believed....that almost happened right before the Start of Desert Shield/Storm.

The USAF has been trying to get rid of the A-10 for quite some time. There was a proposal to transfer them to Army Aviation in the late 80's early 90's.

But the air war in Kuwait/Iraq and that image on CNN of a crew chief standing up through the shrapnel hole in the wing of one particular A-10 made them sexy to the public and some members of Congress and the USAF has had a love/hate relationship with them ever since.

[sneakypete]

If the stories can be believed....that almost happened right before the Start of Desert Shield/Storm.

The USAF has been trying to get rid of the A-10 for quite some time. There was a proposal to transfer them to Army Aviation in the late 80's early 90's.

But the air war in Kuwait/Iraq and that image on CNN of a crew chief standing up through the shrapnel hole in the wing of one particular A-10 made them sexy to the public and some members of Congress and the USAF has had a love/hate relationship with them ever since.

@txradioguy

The fighter pilots,especially the young pilots,love the HELL out of them. The Brass,not so much. They are all in love with the zoomies. They lust after stuff that will fly faster than the speed of light,and if the ground pounders don't like it,they can just ESAD. Especially die.

Then again,NONE of them have every been and will NEVER be on the ground needing close air support because their position is being overran by the enemy.

If they had,I suspect their outlook would be different.

[Right_in_Virginia]

'Summer concert in Mariupol.  It is an irony but now #Mariupol is the safest place in #Donbass'  (Video)

https://mobile.twitter.com/alopeki/status/1551098605464915968

[Right_in_Virginia]

  (Video)

https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1552098659482968064

[Kamaji]

Putin's troops shoot down their OWN helicopter in Kherson after it mistakenly attacked them - as Ukraine cuts off Russian forces in the province by blowing up a bridge with US-supplied HIMARS missiles

By JACK NEWMAN FOR MAILONLINE
27 July 2022

Putin's blundering forces have shot down their own helicopter in Ukraine after it mistakenly started firing at its own troops.

The Ka-52 'Alligator' helicopter, which costs an estimated £12million, was gunned down in Kherson, Ukraine's General Staff revealed.

The military bosses joked it was a 'gesture of goodwill' from the invading forces.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11053189/Putins-troops-shoot-helicopter-Kherson-mistakenly-attacked-them.html

[Right_in_Virginia]

Jack Posobiec
@JackPosobiec





9:16 PM · Jul 26, 2022  Twitter for iPhone

[Right_in_Virginia]

Should we recognize the jurisdiction of the ICC now?  Show of hands ....

Russians With Attitude
@RWApodcast

huh  https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-zelenskyy-pursue-war-crimes-charges-leaders-jpmorgan-citi-hsbc-2022-7



3:45 AM · Jul 27, 2022  Twitter Web App

[Right_in_Virginia]

Russians With Attitude
@RWApodcast

Russian soldiers engaging in some "winning hearts and minds" in Zaporozhye oblast

 


4:37 AM · Jul 26, 2022  Twitter Web App

[Right_in_Virginia]

Jack Posobiec
@JackPosobiec





9:16 PM · Jul 26, 2022  Twitter for iPhone

 

[Hoodat]

Antonovsky Bridge - Kherson

[Hoodat]

Russians With Attitude
@RWApodcast

Russian soldiers engaging in some "winning hearts and minds" in Zaporozhye oblast

 

4:37 AM · Jul 26, 2022  Twitter Web App

Russians winning hearts and minds


Seven-year-old Roman Oleksiv recovers in hospital after suffering burns on nearly half his body
from a Russian missile strike CREDIT: CBS/CBS

[Elderberry]

Russian families pull rug from under Putin as they descend on Kremlin

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1646475/ukraine-live-vladimir-putin-russia-deaths-volodymyr-zelensky-nato-nuclear-latest-updates

HUNDREDS of Russian families are demanding Vladimir Putin reveal the truth about the whereabouts of their loved ones in Ukraine.

Angry relatives penned a letter to the Russian president calling for him to tell them where their relatives and friends are and to add them to the list of prisoners of war who are missing. Those involved in the effort are also asking to meet with Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, for prisoners to be returned to Russia and that DNA tests to be conducted for any fallen soldiers. The letter said: "The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has been blocking a change in the status of servicemen for more than five months, regardless of their constantly changing information." Russia has not revealed the extent of its losses in Ukraine but the number is thought to have reached over 40,000.

[bilo]

 

I knew it wouldn't be long before the Pro-Russia crowd posted the stupid photos.

Zelenskyy and his wife were dumb to do the photo op. All it does is downplay the gravity of the situation. If Ukraine is crushed by the invaders the aggression won't stop there and more natural resources will fall under the control of a country with no history of respecting their neighbors or being trust worthy.

[mountaineer]

Pro-Russia. Wow. 

[catfish1957]

I knew it wouldn't be long before the Pro-Russia crowd posted the stupid photos.
their neighbors or being trust worthy.

@Right_in_Virginia


Stop this bullshit.  Nothing pro-Russia about it.  More a pro-American, and not sending my hard earned tax dollars to a corrupt regime statement as far as I am concerned.  If you are so concerned about filling Zelllinsky's coffers , why not just pull your checkbook out and send Vlady a check instead.

Or in true actuality, let the nations in the EU who are finacially better off than us, (UK, Germany, France), and 1000's of miles closer, foot the bill.

If you'd take off your MSM offically issued teal/yellow shaded sunglasses, you'd see this country is $31T in debt broke. Enough already.  I think you owe RIV an apology.

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia


Stop this bullshit.  Nothing pro-Russia about it.  More a pro-American, and not sending my hard earned tax dollars to a corrupt regime statement as far as I am concerned.  If you are so concerned about filling Zelllinsky's coffers , why not just pull your checkbook out and send Vlady a check instead.

Or in true actuality, let the nations in the EU who are finacially better off than us, (UK, Germany, France), and 1000's of miles closer, foot the bill.

If you'd take off your MSM offically issued teal/yellow shaded sunglasses, you'd see this country is $31T in debt broke. Enough already.  I think you owe RIV an apology.

Thank you @catfish1957