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[Kamaji]

Not enough!

Russia is the evil invader in this war. In the long term the only answer is to push them out of Ukraine. Anything less and you are inviting further aggression in the future. The Ukrainians are paying a terrible price trying to preserve their sovereignty but to their credit they have shown no willingness to quit. As long as they are willing to fight it's in our best interest to give them the weapons to do so.

[sneakypete]

Not the point @sneakypete   Not even close to it.   

@Right_in_Virginia

May not be "the point",but it IS "the facts".

BUT.....why don't you fill me in on what the point is?

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia

May not be "the point",but it IS "the facts".

BUT.....why don't you fill me in on what the point is?

I did, Pete.

[Hoodat]

I did, Pete.

Can you direct me to the post where you made that point?  I would like to see it for myself.

[Hoodat]

The Russian woman rescued from a Kyiv bomb site

16 hours ago

A Russian-Ukrainian family has been irrevocably split by the war in Ukraine after Russian-born Ekaterina Volkova was injured in an air strike and her Ukrainian husband killed in the same attack.

This was the second time Russia had dropped a missile on their apartment building. In late April, a Radio Liberty journalist was killed in the same building.

Ukrainian authorities said the incident showed Russia’s indiscriminate bombing was even targeting their own citizens.

The BBC’s Anastassiya Zlatopolskai has tracked down the family in Kyiv who say the attack was unforgivable.

Video:  https://www.bbc.com/news/av-embeds/62044014

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-62044014

[Hoodat]

https://twitter.com/olex_scherba/status/1543689118814797825

[Hoodat]

YouTube Blocked in Ukraine's Russian-Occupied Kherson

July 6, 2022

Russian-installed authorities claim to have blocked access to YouTube and Instagram in southern Ukraine’s occupied Kherson region.

“We shut down YouTube a few days ago,” Sergei Moroz, a video blogger and spokesperson for the local occupation administration, said in a video message posted on Telegram Wednesday.

“We’re now without YouTube or Instagram. But it’s OK, we get by alright,” Moroz said. He also admitted that locals could use VPNs to circumvent censorship.

The same clip also appeared on a YouTube channel bearing Moroz’s name alongside his previous vlogs.

The announcement confirms Ukrainian reports earlier this week that YouTube had been blocked in the region alongside messaging app Viber.  .  .

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/07/06/youtube-blocked-in-russia-occupied-kherson-a78220

[Hoodat]

https://twitter.com/OlegNikolenko_/status/1545343909991223296

[Kamaji]

https://twitter.com/OlegNikolenko_/status/1545343909991223296

Ahh, those daring Russians!  They're just liberating that grain, dontchaknow.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Ned Ryun
@nedryun

And here you thought that $40 billion was going to fund a corrupt Eastern European nation’s “defense.” Haha! The morons who voted to send over our hard earned tax dollars for this need to be run out of office



8:18 AM · Jul 8, 2022   Twitter for iPhone

[Right_in_Virginia]

The world has lost a much needed voice of reason and courage.  May he RIP.

[Hoodat]

The world has lost a much needed voice of reason and courage.  May he RIP.

Here's what Abe actually said in context:

The Economist: You met with Vladimir Putin some 27 times. What advice would you offer on dealing with Putin now?

Abe Shinzo: I don’t think there are many options left in this situation. There are lots of ways to analyse Putin’s character, but I think he is someone who believes in power and is a realist at the same time. He is not the type of person who pursues ideals, or makes sacrifices for ideas.

Before the invasion, when they had surrounded Ukraine, it might have been possible [to avoid war]. If [Ukrainian president Volodymyr] Zelensky could have been made to promise that his country will not join nato, or made to grant a high degree of autonomy to the two enclaves in the east. I understand this would be hard to do—perhaps an American leader could have done it. But of course [Zelensky] would refuse.

However, now that we are here, I think the only way forward is to stand with Ukraine and thoroughly oppose Russia’s aggression.[ That is the way to protect the international order that we have created since the end of World War II.

https://www.economist.com/AbeInterview

[mountaineer]

Election Wizard 🇺🇸
@ElectionWiz
BREAKING: US has approved a $400 million security package for Ukraine, per a senior defense official:

• 4 additional HIMARS + ammo
• 3 tactical vehicles
• 1000 precision 155mm artillery rds
• Counter-battery systems, demo munitions, and spare parts
1:36 PM · Jul 8, 2022·

[Kamaji]

Here's what Abe actually said in context:

Taking a partial quote out of context is one of the last refuges of a scoundrel.

[catfish1957]

Election Wizard 🇺🇸
@ElectionWiz
BREAKING: US has approved a $400 million security package for Ukraine, per a senior defense official:

• 4 additional HIMARS + ammo
• 3 tactical vehicles
• 1000 precision 155mm artillery rds
• Counter-battery systems, demo munitions, and spare parts
1:36 PM · Jul 8, 2022·

So when does this blank check for Zellenski end?

[mountaineer]

So when does this blank check for Zellenski end?

As Shari Lewis sang, "This is the song that never ends. It just goes on and on, my friend ..."

[Right_in_Virginia]

So when does this blank check for Zellenski end?

When aging cold war veterans finally stand down.

[Hoodat]

When aging cold war veterans finally stand down.

Putin is showing no sign of that.

[mountaineer]

First time for Blumenthal in a war zone, I understand.

[Hoodat]

First time for Blumenthal in a war zone, I understand.

Well played.

[libertybele]

So when does this blank check for Zellenski end?

My question exactly?  It all depends on who's pockets are getting lined.

[Hoodat]

I'd be asking where the $40 billion is going since the Ukraine military is receiving only a very small fraction of it.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Tim Young
@TimRunsHisMouth

Just a reminder that we've sent more than 15x the amount of money Trump asked for to complete our border wall to the Ukraine to defend their border.

1:11 PM · Jul 8, 2022·Twitter for Android

[Right_in_Virginia]

First time for Blumenthal in a war zone, I understand.

Top notch.   

[Hoodat]

Moscow politician gets 7 years for denouncing war

Paul Kirby - BBC  |  9 hours ago


Gorinov held up a note in court stating: "Do you still need this war?"

A Moscow councillor has been jailed for seven years for speaking out against Russia's war in Ukraine - in what is said to be the first full jail term under new laws targeting dissent.

Alexei Gorinov, 60, was arrested in April after he was filmed criticising the invasion in a city council meeting.

Under the post-invasion law, anyone who spreads "fake news" about the military faces up to 15 years in jail.

Russians are banned from using the word war to describe the invasion.

President Vladimir Putin has instead coined the phrase "special military operation", although he spoke of the "war in the Donbas" in remarks to parliamentary leaders on Thursday.

Human rights activist Pavel Chikov said Gorinov's sentence was the first jail term under the new law.  .  .

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62092196