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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #625 on: May 19, 2022, 01:17:10 pm »
Detectives near Kharkiv investigate alleged Russian war crimes against civilians

In the hills around Kharkiv, detectives from Ukraine and Lithuania are looking for evidence that Russian forces committed war crimes against the local population, after reports of tanks firing on villages and food trucks being ambushed.

Dominic Waghorn  |  19 May 2022 11:03, UK

Early in the invasion, Russia's 59th tank regiment dug in east of Kharkiv.


Near the treeline on raised ground, they looked down on a valley of villages.

From there, Ukrainians say the tanks' guns attacked civilian vehicles and homes below.

A reckoning followed as Ukrainian forces comprehensively destroyed the Russian tanks and armoured vehicles.

Sky News joined Ukrainian and Lithuanian investigators combing over what's left of their positions for evidence of war crimes.  .  .

.  .  .  Ukrainian military prosecutor Artem Zaskalkin told Sky News the Russians had shelled civilian homes in the villages below.

Ukrainian military prosecutor Artem Zaskalkin told Sky News the Russians had shelled civilian homes in the villages below.  .  .

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-detectives-near-kharkiv-investigate-alleged-russian-war-crimes-against-civilians-12616184
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #626 on: May 19, 2022, 01:43:51 pm »
Like this matters?  When did you become such a champion of the O'Biden corruption machine?

Don't go there.
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #627 on: May 19, 2022, 01:46:25 pm »
Like this matters?

Yes.  'Truth' always matters.
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #628 on: May 19, 2022, 01:55:27 pm »
I am not saying this wasn't/isn't serious,but towns have been getting shelled ever since shells and the devices that fire them were invented, Before that catapults were used to throw heavy rocks or fireballs.

Sometimes even dead,rotten bodies were catapulted over walls to try to spread disease.

One of the reasons that war should be avoided if possible.
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #629 on: May 19, 2022, 02:42:56 pm »
Russia Firing Senior Commanders Who Performed Poorly in Ukraine: U.K.

JACK DUTTON  |  5/19/22 AT 8:09 AM EDT


Russia has fired senior military commanders who have been considered to have performed poorly during the early stages of the country's invasion of Ukraine, the British Ministry of Defense has said.

Russian President Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine on February 24, initially with the intention of capturing the capital Kyiv. However, the Russian army failed in its aims as Ukrainians put up a strong defense, leading Putin's forces to focus their attention on the eastern Donbas region, as well as Ukraine's southern port towns on the Black Sea.

Although Russia has captured the southern port city of Mariupol, its army's progress elsewhere in the Donbas has been slow. The war has killed thousands of people, including many civilians and displaced millions more.

In its daily Ukraine war update on Thursday, Britain's Ministry of Defense tweeted Thursday: "In recent weeks, Russia has fired senior commanders who are considered to have performed poorly during the opening stages of its invasion of Ukraine."

The ministry noted that Lieutenant General Sergey Kisel, who commanded the elite 1st Guards Tank Army, was suspended for his failure to capture Kharkiv. Vice Admiral Igor Osipov, who commanded Russia's Black Sea Fleet, has also likely been suspended following the sinking of the cruiser Moskva in April, the ministry added.  .  .

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-firing-senior-commanders-who-performed-poorly-ukraineu-k-1708140
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« Reply #630 on: May 19, 2022, 02:58:51 pm »
Is it Annual Performance Review time at the Kremlin?



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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #631 on: May 19, 2022, 02:59:54 pm »
Russia Firing Senior Commanders Who Performed Poorly in Ukraine: U.K.

JACK DUTTON  |  5/19/22 AT 8:09 AM EDT


Russia has fired senior military commanders who have been considered to have performed poorly during the early stages of the country's invasion of Ukraine, the British Ministry of Defense has said.

Russian President Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine on February 24, initially with the intention of capturing the capital Kyiv. However, the Russian army failed in its aims as Ukrainians put up a strong defense, leading Putin's forces to focus their attention on the eastern Donbas region, as well as Ukraine's southern port towns on the Black Sea.

Although Russia has captured the southern port city of Mariupol, its army's progress elsewhere in the Donbas has been slow. The war has killed thousands of people, including many civilians and displaced millions more.

In its daily Ukraine war update on Thursday, Britain's Ministry of Defense tweeted Thursday: "In recent weeks, Russia has fired senior commanders who are considered to have performed poorly during the opening stages of its invasion of Ukraine."

The ministry noted that Lieutenant General Sergey Kisel, who commanded the elite 1st Guards Tank Army, was suspended for his failure to capture Kharkiv. Vice Admiral Igor Osipov, who commanded Russia's Black Sea Fleet, has also likely been suspended following the sinking of the cruiser Moskva in April, the ministry added.  .  .

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-firing-senior-commanders-who-performed-poorly-ukraineu-k-1708140

A choice is presented:  Be fired or face the angry Ukrainians and be slaughtered.  I'd pick the Dacha choice.
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #632 on: May 19, 2022, 05:03:09 pm »
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Azov second-in-command "Kalina" left Azovstal & surrendered last night, says war reporter Dmitry Steshin.

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« Reply #633 on: May 19, 2022, 05:06:05 pm »
"Representatives of the Red Cross have visited the jail in Yelenovka (DPR) where Ukrainian POWs from Azovstal are being held."  (Video)


https://mobile.twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1527163884762701824

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« Reply #634 on: May 19, 2022, 05:08:39 pm »
"Ukrainians at Azovstal surrendering their weapons"  (Video)


https://mobile.twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1527179550756577280

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« Reply #635 on: May 19, 2022, 05:11:02 pm »
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The DPR is working on the creation of a tribunal for the trial of Ukrainian war criminals. Cooperation between Russian, DPR and LPR agencies has already been established, the statute is currently being drafted.

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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #636 on: May 19, 2022, 05:42:55 pm »
A choice is presented:  Be fired or face the angry Ukrainians and be slaughtered.  I'd pick the Dacha choice.

Especially if, as most Russian officers have done, one has pocketed a nice chunk of change from forging all those maintenance records on one's unit's equipment.

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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #637 on: May 19, 2022, 05:44:49 pm »
'Warm wishes to the Russian occupiers!' Ukrainian troops paint flowers and messages on missiles…before firing a volley of them at Putin's forces

By CHRIS JEWERS FOR MAILONLINE
19 May 2022

Ukrainian troops have been filmed painting flowers and messages on their missiles, before firing a volley of the munitions at Vladimir Putin's invading forces.

Kyiv's troops decorated the missiles with 'warm' messages for Ukraine's World Embroidery Day, known as Vyshyvanka, which takes place on May 21.

The holiday - that is also celebrated in Belarus - promotes the tradition of creating and wearing embroidered Ukrainian clothes known as Vyshyvanka. A Vyshyvanka is a casual name for an embroidered shirt that is part of the country's national costume.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10833575/Ukrainian-troops-paint-flowers-messages-missiles-destined-Putins-forces.html

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« Reply #638 on: May 19, 2022, 05:53:26 pm »
Russia Firing Senior Commanders Who Performed Poorly in Ukraine: U.K.

JACK DUTTON  |  5/19/22 AT 8:09 AM EDT


Russia has fired senior military commanders who have been considered to have performed poorly during the early stages of the country's invasion of Ukraine, the British Ministry of Defense has said.

Russian President Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine on February 24, initially with the intention of capturing the capital Kyiv. However, the Russian army failed in its aims as Ukrainians put up a strong defense, leading Putin's forces to focus their attention on the eastern Donbas region, as well as Ukraine's southern port towns on the Black Sea.

Although Russia has captured the southern port city of Mariupol, its army's progress elsewhere in the Donbas has been slow. The war has killed thousands of people, including many civilians and displaced millions more.

In its daily Ukraine war update on Thursday, Britain's Ministry of Defense tweeted Thursday: "In recent weeks, Russia has fired senior commanders who are considered to have performed poorly during the opening stages of its invasion of Ukraine."

The ministry noted that Lieutenant General Sergey Kisel, who commanded the elite 1st Guards Tank Army, was suspended for his failure to capture Kharkiv. Vice Admiral Igor Osipov, who commanded Russia's Black Sea Fleet, has also likely been suspended following the sinking of the cruiser Moskva in April, the ministry added.  .  .

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-firing-senior-commanders-who-performed-poorly-ukraineu-k-1708140

I hate to see this, there is always a chance that the replacement might actually know what they are doing and turn things around for the orcs.
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #639 on: May 19, 2022, 06:00:14 pm »
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The DPR is working on the creation of a tribunal for the trial of Ukrainian war criminals. Cooperation between Russian, DPR and LPR agencies has already been established, the statute is currently being drafted.

Shouldn't they come up with some actual Ukrainian war crimes first before creating tribunals?
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« Reply #640 on: May 19, 2022, 06:01:49 pm »
Shouldn't they come up with some actual Ukrainian war crimes first before creating tribunals?

They should also come up with a recognized sovereign that has the recognized authority to try war crimes.  A Russian-engendered kangaroo court doesn't count.

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« Reply #641 on: May 19, 2022, 06:05:20 pm »
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Azov second-in-command "Kalina" left Azovstal & surrendered last night, says war reporter Dmitry Steshin.

This would be the same "Kalina" that the DPR reported they killed back in March.

https://thesanghakommune.org/2022/04/01/dpr-deputy-azov-commander-kalina-has-been-killed-neo-nazi-news-round-up-issue-40-31-3-2022/

See how stupid you look when you fail to keep track of your propaganda lies?

btw, it is now being reported that "Kalina" has been moved to Rostov.  If so, this means the Russians are already in violation of the surrender agreement.
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« Reply #642 on: May 19, 2022, 06:18:51 pm »
For the record, Kalina's real name is Svyatoslav Palamar.  He holds the rank of captain in the Azov Regiment - Ukrainian National Guard.

No word yet on the status of Major Serhiy Volyna, ranking officer of the 36th Separate Marine Brigade - Ukraine Military.  He is still in side Azovstal.  If Russia is already in violation of the surrender agreement, then there is no reason for anyone else to surrender.
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #643 on: May 19, 2022, 06:29:26 pm »
Sea of Azov under threat of complete extinction due to Russian bombardment

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-emergencies/3486397-sea-of-azov-under-threat-of-complete-extinction-due-to-russian-bombardment.html

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There is a threat of complete extinction of the Sea of ​​Azov due to possible damage to the technical facility, which restrains the concentrated hydrogen sulfide solution, amid the Russian bombardment of the Azovstal steelworks.

"There is a threat of complete extinction of the Sea of ​​Azov. The bombardment of Azovstal could damage a technical facility that restrains tens of thousands of tonnes of concentrated hydrogen sulfide solution. The leak will completely kill the flora and fauna of the Sea of ​​Azov," the Mariupol City Council posted on Telegram.

It is noted that dangerous substances may further get into the Black Sea and the Mediterranean Sea. According to Mariupol Mayor Vadym Boychenko, international experts and the UN must be granted immediate access to the facility to examine the situation and prevent a global environmental catastrophe.

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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #644 on: May 19, 2022, 07:16:32 pm »
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The DPR is working on the creation of a tribunal for the trial of Ukrainian war criminals. Cooperation between Russian, DPR and LPR agencies has already been established, the statute is currently being drafted.

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In a massive development amid the devastating war in Eastern Europe, Ukraine's breakaway regions Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) and the Luhansk People's Republic (LPR) have appointed their ambassadors to Moscow. DPR's head Denis Pushilin and LPR's head Leonid Pasechnik appointed ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary to Russia. The corresponding decrees were published on Friday on the websites of the leaders of the Republics. As per a TASS report, the decrees entered into force from the date of signing.

https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/russia-ukraine-war-separatist-dpr-and-lpr-regions-appoint-ambassadors-to-moscow-articleshow.html

Is it me, or does it bother anybody else that these Ukrainian "heroes" named their little tinpots "Peoples Republics?"  That screams "Third-World hard core Communist."  We're supposed to root for this??!?
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« Reply #645 on: May 19, 2022, 07:20:49 pm »
Please note....
https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/russia-ukraine-war-separatist-dpr-and-lpr-regions-appoint-ambassadors-to-moscow-articleshow.html

Is it me, or does it bother anybody else that these Ukrainian "heroes" named their little tinpots "Peoples Republics?"  That screams "Third-World hard core Communist."  We're supposed to root for this??!?

I've never seen a "People's Republic" that was ever truly by the people or for the people.
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #646 on: May 19, 2022, 08:00:19 pm »
Please note....

Is it me, or does it bother anybody else that these Ukrainian "heroes" named their little tinpots "Peoples Republics?"  That screams "Third-World hard core Communist."  We're supposed to root for this??!?

Maybe the SS Totenkopf insignia on DPR uniforms is supposed to balance that out.

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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #647 on: May 19, 2022, 08:21:44 pm »
I've never seen a "People's Republic" that was ever truly by the people or for the people.

Or a republic.

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« Reply #648 on: May 20, 2022, 12:24:33 am »
Shouldn't they come up with some actual Ukrainian war crimes first before creating tribunals?

It sure looks like a way for the Russians to execute the Mariupol soldiers.
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« Reply #649 on: May 20, 2022, 12:27:26 am »
Please note....
https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/russia-ukraine-war-separatist-dpr-and-lpr-regions-appoint-ambassadors-to-moscow-articleshow.html

Is it me, or does it bother anybody else that these Ukrainian "heroes" named their little tinpots "Peoples Republics?"  That screams "Third-World hard core Communist." We're supposed to root for this??!?

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