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[mountaineer]

Columbia Bugle
@ColumbiaBugle

US House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) is on the House floor right now stating that the United States is at war with Russia and that, because we are “in a time of war,” Republicans shouldn’t criticize Biden.
Are you paying attention yet?
1:03 PM · May 13, 2022·Twitter for iPhone

Yes, it's just a smidgen disturbing that Democrats think we're at war. When did Congress make this declaration?

[Right_in_Virginia]

We are fortunate that Boris Johnson really stepped into the role our POTUS should have been in. We are seeing Johnson doing it again promising to send British troops to Finland if requested.

 

[bilo]

‘They were furious’: the Russian soldiers refusing to fight in Ukraine

Troops are saying no to officers, knowing that punishment is light while Russia is not technically at war

Pjotr Sauer
Thu 12 May 2022 13.58 EDT
Last modified on Fri 13 May 2022 00.28 EDT

When the soldiers of an elite Russian army brigade were told in early April to prepare for a second deployment to Ukraine, fear broke out among the ranks.

The unit, stationed in Russia’s far east during peacetime, first entered Ukraine from Belarus when the war started at the end of February and saw bitter combat with Ukrainian forces.

“It soon became clear that not everyone was onboard with it. Many of us simply did not want to go back,” said Dmitri, a member of the unit who asked not to be identified with his real name. “I want to return to my family – and not in a casket.”

Along with eight others, Dmitri told his commanders that he refused to rejoin the invasion. “They were furious. But they eventually calmed down because there wasn’t much they could do,” he said.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/12/they-were-furious-the-russian-soldiers-refusing-to-fight-in-ukraine

Pretty understandable it's one thing when you are fighting to save your country and freedom, it's another when you are invading.

[Right_in_Virginia]

‘They were furious’: the Russian soldiers refusing to fight in Ukraine

Troops are saying no to officers, knowing that punishment is light while Russia is not technically at war

Pjotr Sauer
Thu 12 May 2022 13.58 EDT
Last modified on Fri 13 May 2022 00.28 EDT

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/12/they-were-furious-the-russian-soldiers-refusing-to-fight-in-ukraine

FWIW, there are several credible reports that contradict this one.

[Kamaji]

Russian troops boobytrap 10-year-old girl's PIANO: Horrified mother finds grenade hidden inside instrument after returning to family home ransacked by Putin's 'b*****d' soldiers

By ED WIGHT FOR MAILONLINE
13 May 2022

A Ukrainian mother has branded Russian soldiers 'b******s' after they boobytrapped her award-winning 10-year-old daughter's piano with a grenade.

Forced to flee their home in Bucza following Russia's invasion, Tatiana Monko returned home with daughter Daryna last week.

Despite their apartment being ransacked and Daryna's prized autographed poster of her favourite band being ripped to pieces, the first thing she wanted to do was play her piano.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10814183/Russian-troops-boobytrap-10-year-old-girls-PIANO-Horrified-mother-finds-grenade.html

[mystery-ak]

 May 13, 2022 2:33pm EDT
Russian lawmaker warns Poland is next in line for 'denazification after Ukraine'
Comment comes after Polish leaders criticized Putin, Russia

By Greg Norman | Fox News

    A Russian lawmaker is warning Friday that recent comments from Poland’s leaders are encouraging Moscow to "put it in first place in the queue for denazification after Ukraine." 

Russian State Duma Deputy Oleg Morozov, using language Russia has sought to justify its bloody invasion of Ukraine, made the remark on his Telegram page, according to Russian state media.

"By its statements about Russia as a 'cancer tumor' and about the 'indemnity' that we must pay to Ukraine, Poland encourages us to put it in first place in the queue for denazification after Ukraine," Morozov reportedly wrote.

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https://www.foxnews.com/world/russian-lawmaker-poland-next-in-line-denazification-after-ukraine

[Kamaji]

May 13, 2022 2:33pm EDT
Russian lawmaker warns Poland is next in line for 'denazification after Ukraine'
Comment comes after Polish leaders criticized Putin, Russia

By Greg Norman | Fox News

    A Russian lawmaker is warning Friday that recent comments from Poland’s leaders are encouraging Moscow to "put it in first place in the queue for denazification after Ukraine." 

Russian State Duma Deputy Oleg Morozov, using language Russia has sought to justify its bloody invasion of Ukraine, made the remark on his Telegram page, according to Russian state media.

"By its statements about Russia as a 'cancer tumor' and about the 'indemnity' that we must pay to Ukraine, Poland encourages us to put it in first place in the queue for denazification after Ukraine," Morozov reportedly wrote.

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https://www.foxnews.com/world/russian-lawmaker-poland-next-in-line-denazification-after-ukraine

The Russians really are more stupid, more venal, and more corrupt, than one can imagine.

[sneakypete]

May 13, 2022 2:33pm EDT
Russian lawmaker warns Poland is next in line for 'denazification after Ukraine'
Comment comes after Polish leaders criticized Putin, Russia

By Greg Norman | Fox News

    A Russian lawmaker is warning Friday that recent comments from Poland’s leaders are encouraging Moscow to "put it in first place in the queue for denazification after Ukraine." 

@mystery-ak

You HAVE to wonder if this loon had permission to utter that brain fart,or if he is just one more Senior Senile Soviet fool with diarrhea of the mouth.

That HAS to rate right up near the top of the most Damn Fool Thing Ever Said.

[mystery-ak]

May 13, 2022 11:48am EDT
Defense Secretary Austin speaks with Russian defense minister for first time in months, urges cease-fire
Pentagon earlier said Russia wasn't answering US calls

By Greg Norman | Fox News

   U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin spoke Friday with Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu for the first time in months, urging "an immediate cease-fire in Ukraine," Pentagon press secretary John Kirby says.

The call between Austin and his Russian counterpart is the first since Feb. 18, according to Kirby. It’s also the first since Russia launched its invasion of Ukraine, which has now lasted 79 days.

"Secretary Austin urged an immediate cease-fire in Ukraine and emphasized the importance of maintaining lines of communication," Kirby said.

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/secretary-defense-austin-russia-shoigu-ukraine-call

[mystery-ak]

 13, 2022 8:55am EDT
Ukraine destroys 'significant' number of Russian armored vehicles in failed river crossing, UK says
Images of eastern Ukraine destruction add to ‘heavy losses’ that Russia has been accumulating in the war

By Greg Norman | Fox News

Ukrainian troops fighting Vladimir Putin’s army in eastern Ukraine have destroyed a "significant" number of Russian armored vehicles during a failed attempt at a river crossing by the invading forces, the United Kingdom’s Ministry of Defense said Friday.

The announcement comes after Ukraine released images purportedly showing more than two dozen burnt-out Russian tanks and other armored carriers scattered along the banks of the Siverskyi Donets River. One of the images appears to show partially sunken pontoon bridges.

"Images indicate that during the crossing of the Siverskyi Donets river west of Severodonetsk, Russia lost significant armored maneuver elements of at least one Battalion Tactical Group as well as the deployed pontoon bridging equipment," the Ministry said in a tweet.


The U.K. says pontoon bridges were destroyed during the failed crossing.

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https://www.foxnews.com/world/ukraine-russia-river-crossing-military-losses

   

[sneakypete]

May 13, 2022 11:48am EDT
Defense Secretary Austin speaks with Russian defense minister for first time in months, urges cease-fire
Pentagon earlier said Russia wasn't answering US calls

By Greg Norman | Fox News

   U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin spoke Friday with Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu for the first time in months, urging "an immediate cease-fire in Ukraine," Pentagon press secretary John Kirby says.

The call between Austin and his Russian counterpart is the first since Feb. 18, according to Kirby. It’s also the first since Russia launched its invasion of Ukraine, which has now lasted 79 days.

"Secretary Austin urged an immediate cease-fire in Ukraine and emphasized the importance of maintaining lines of communication," Kirby said.

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/secretary-defense-austin-russia-shoigu-ukraine-call

@mystery-ak

Russian men have MASSIVE macho ego's,and SOMEBODY is going to have to figure out a way to let the Russians save "face" without actually having to admit they screwed up in order to get them to leave.

Frankly,I suspect they would be more than happy to accept an excuse that SEEMS to be valid,even though everybody would realize it was bogus.

Meanwhile,they are stuck in Ukraine,and don't know how to get out of there.

[mystery-ak]

 

Oligarch ‘reveals Putin is very ill with blood cancer in secret recording’

Sam Courtney-GuyFriday 13 May 2022 10:45 am

A Russian oligarch with close ties to the Kremlin confessed to a Western colleague that Vladimir Putin is ‘very ill with blood cancer’, it has been claimed.

The billionaire, whose name has been withheld for his safety, was allegedly secretly taped in mid-March expressing his contempt for the ‘crazy’ Russian president’s invasion of Ukraine.

In the recording, obtained by New Lines Magazine, he said: ‘[Putin] absolutely ruined Russia’s economy, Ukraine’s economy and many other economies — ruined [them] absolutely.

‘The problem is with his head. … One crazy guy can turn the world upside down.’

The oligarch was said to be among Russia’s 200 richest people and currently residing outside of the country.

He was part of a ‘close circle of 20 or 30 people’ whom Putin met with in the build-up to his illegal annexation of Ukraine’s Crimean peninsula in 2014, a former European security chief told the magazine.


Pictures have emerged of the Russian president looking increasingly frail

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https://metro.co.uk/2022/05/13/putin-very-ill-with-blood-cancer-says-top-oligarch-in-secret-tape-16636578/

[DB]

@mystery-ak

Russian men have MASSIVE macho ego's,and SOMEBODY is going to have to figure out a way to let the Russians save "face" without actually having to admit they screwed up in order to get them to leave.

Frankly,I suspect they would be more than happy to accept an excuse that SEEMS to be valid,even though everybody would realize it was bogus.

Meanwhile,they are stuck in Ukraine,and don't know how to get out of there.

That's easy... Russia can say they killed all the "NAZIs" and leave...

[Kamaji]

That's easy... Russia can say they killed all the "NAZIs" and leave...

That could work.

[berdie]

That's easy... Russia can say they killed all the "NAZIs" and leave...

That's a great solution...providing they quit threatening other countries looking to join NATO...and Nato/western countries.

An off the wall thought I had, maybe NATO should reconsider admitting the Ukraine at some time in the future. Seems to me like they have proven themselves as fierce fighters and could provide a decent buffer between the NATO countries and Russia. And no, I don't give a darn if Putin has a fit.

[bilo]

@mystery-ak

You HAVE to wonder if this loon had permission to utter that brain fart,or if he is just one more Senior Senile Soviet fool with diarrhea of the mouth.

That HAS to rate right up near the top of the most Damn Fool Thing Ever Said.

-or-

The Russians are just confirming why it's so important to stop them now and send them back to Russia.

[bilo]

@mystery-ak

Russian men have MASSIVE macho ego's,and SOMEBODY is going to have to figure out a way to let the Russians save "face" without actually having to admit they screwed up in order to get them to leave.

Frankly,I suspect they would be more than happy to accept an excuse that SEEMS to be valid,even though everybody would realize it was bogus.

Meanwhile,they are stuck in Ukraine,and don't know how to get out of there.

They could always agree to completely leave all of Ukraine and have a UN peacekeeping force along the border.

[Kamaji]

Putin rumored to have fired another top Russian general as Ukraine invasion flounders

By Evan Simko-Bednarski
May 13, 2022

Speculation is swirling that Russian President Vladimir Putin has sacked his top commander in what is the latest rumored dismissal amid his floundering invasion into Ukraine, said an advisor to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

Oleksiy Arestovych, a presidential adviser, said in an interview with Russian dissident lawyer Mark Feygin on Wednesday that “preliminary information” indicated that Valery Gerasimov, chief of the Russian General Staff, had been fired.

The reported sacking could not be independently verified, and the Kremlin has not given any indications of an upper-echelon ouster.

However Gerasimov — who was famously seen briefing Russian President Vladimir Putin alongside Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu from the other end of a long table during the lead-up to the war — was notably absent from this week’s Victory Day parade in Moscow.

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2022/05/13/putin-rumored-to-have-fired-russian-general-valery-gerasimov/

[Hoodat]

FWIW, there are several credible reports that contradict this one.

Post them.  Something credible would be a nice change.

[Hoodat]

That's easy... Russia can say they killed all the "NAZIs" and leave...

And once they leave, there will no longer be any nazis in Ukraine.

[sneakypete]

That could work.

@Kamaji @DB

Maybe,but some western officials are going to have to thank them in public for "removing the Nazi threat and making the world a safer place." to "sell it".

Give them quotes that will add salve to their fried egos.

[Cyber Liberty]

And once they leave, there will no longer be any nazis in Ukraine.

You just put your finger on it right there.  Russia can never say they exterminated the Nazi menace because they need that boogie man in perpetuity.

[sneakypete]

They could always agree to completely leave all of Ukraine and have a UN peacekeeping force along the border.

@bilo

NOT good enough to stand on it's own. It is a tactic admission of surrender. Subtle,but obvious.

Someone prominent needs to swallow a little pride and thank them for "making the world a safer place."

Which,ironically enough,would be exactly what they would be doing by pulling all their forces back to Russia.

It doesn't matter at all if you or I or anyone else in the west believes it as long as it is something the typical Russia can convince themselves to believe.

[sneakypete]

Putin rumored to have fired another top Russian general as Ukraine invasion flounders

By Evan Simko-Bednarski
May 13, 2022

Speculation is swirling that Russian President Vladimir Putin has sacked his top commander in what is the latest rumored dismissal amid his floundering invasion into Ukraine, said an advisor to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

Oleksiy Arestovych, a presidential adviser, said in an interview with Russian dissident lawyer Mark Feygin on Wednesday that “preliminary information” indicated that Valery Gerasimov, chief of the Russian General Staff, had been fired.

The reported sacking could not be independently verified, and the Kremlin has not given any indications of an upper-echelon ouster.

However Gerasimov — who was famously seen briefing Russian President Vladimir Putin alongside Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu from the other end of a long table during the lead-up to the war — was notably absent from this week’s Victory Day parade in Moscow.

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2022/05/13/putin-rumored-to-have-fired-russian-general-valery-gerasimov/

@Kamaji

Am I the only one thinking "The Russian General Staff and their aides HAVE to be getting tired of having ALL the blame for this brain fart placed on THEIR heads,when all THEY were doing was following Putin's orders?

I am wondering how long it will take and how many Generals have to be removed under disgrace before the remaining Generals get fed up and remove him themselves.

Or maybe I am wrong. Has anyone out there ever met,known,or even ever heard  of such a creature as a "modest General Officer"?

[Kamaji]

@Kamaji

Am I the only one thinking "The Russian General Staff and their aides HAVE to be getting tired of having ALL the blame for this brain fart placed on THEIR heads,when all THEY were doing was following Putin's orders?

I am wondering how long it will take and how many Generals have to be removed under disgrace before the remaining Generals get fed up and remove him themselves.

Or maybe I am wrong. Has anyone out there ever met or known of such a creature as a "modest General Officer"?