Is Ukraine Really Any More Corrupt than We Are?

[mystery-ak]

April 7, 2022
Is Ukraine Really Any More Corrupt than We Are?
By Jerry Powlas

Among the talking heads discussing Ukraine, more than a few have said things like "Ukraine is very corrupt.  We don't need to get into that fight" and "We don't have a dog in that fight.   The corruption in Ukraine is massive."

But how corrupt are we?  I don't know much about corruption in Ukraine, but corruption in the United States is a glaring problem that just about every citizen who is paying attention would acknowledge.  Are we any better than Ukraine?  Maybe worse?

It is the nature of corruption in a culture that only a fraction — often a small fraction — of the people are corrupt.  Indeed, if a certain behavior is seen commonly among the people of a culture, it will not be considered corruption.  So if context is taken into account, it would be unfair to call that culture corrupt.

I contend that the average G.I. Ivan fighting in the rubble in the streets of his own country is probably not corrupt.  I would further contend that the elderly men who did not run for the Polish border, but rather picked up a rifle and joined Ivan in the bunker are not corrupt, either.  In fact, the men in the bunker are pretty brave and straight-up guys who have justly won the hearts of most of the rest of the world.

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[Smokin Joe]

Well, we have a POTUS who has bragged about using his influence to get the prosecutor fired who was investigating the company who had his son on the BOD, even though  his son probably didn't know enough about oil and Gas to fill a thimble. He got into office by stealing a National Election. That's just a warm-up, nowhere near trying to sort out all the decades-entrenched corruption in the Congress, media, and various agencies.

Considering the Ukrainian Government under their current POTUS, who had no history of holding office, has only been going since 2019, I'd venture a guess that Ukraine is actually LESS corrupt than the US.

[Kamaji]

Well, we have a POTUS who has bragged about using his influence to get the prosecutor fired who was investigating the company who had his son on the BOD, even though  his son probably didn't know enough about oil and Gas to fill a thimble. He got into office by stealing a National Election. That's just a warm-up, nowhere near trying to sort out all the decades-entrenched corruption in the Congress, media, and various agencies.

Considering the Ukrainian Government under their current POTUS, who had no history of holding office, has only been going since 2019, I'd venture a guess that Ukraine is actually LESS corrupt than the US.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Yes.

[Bigun]

Is Ukraine Really Any More Corrupt than We Are?

I don't see how it would be possible at this point.

[catfish1957]

I don't see how it would be possible at this point.

Asking who is more corrupt is like contrasting Hitler and Stalin in population control.

[240B]

Ukraine only exists to give Democrats a place to launder their bribes.
The current "Save Ukraine!" frenzy among Democrats is all about their money.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Asking who is more corrupt is like contrasting Hitler and Stalin in population control.

 

[Hoodat]

At least Ukraine is fighting to secure its borders.