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Offline libertybele

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The time may be ripe, but Joe is definitely not up to the task.

The conditions are ripe for talking peace. Biden should seize the moment


A ceasefire or peace deal in the coming weeks could potentially save hundreds of thousands of lives and untold injuries and suffering. It would reduce the dangerous risk of further escalation and the potential of open conflict between NATO and Russia. And it might be the best option to preserve Ukrainian sovereignty and independence.

Russia and Ukraine have been talking, but negotiations, which are still in the early stages, would benefit from a leader like Biden facilitating the process. Having worked as the director for European affairs at the National Security Council in the Clinton White House, I saw firsthand how essential presidential leadership can be in the cause of peace.

We saw this in Bosnia when early UN peace negotiations efforts failed but US-led negotiations succeeded in 1995 with the Dayton Accords...........

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/20/opinions/ukraine-biden-peace-deal-dowling/index.html
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a leader like Biden


You lost me right there.

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Putin doesn't need Biden to negotiate on their behalf.
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The best option to preserve Ukrainian sovereignty and independence is to push Russian forces back into Russia, Belarus, and Moldova.

The breakup of the Yugoslavia was a smaller version of what is happening in the old domains of the USSR.

Yugoslavia was a facade for a Greater Serbia.  In the 1990s, Serbia fought in Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo re-assert its previous dominance of the emerging independent nation states of the Slovenians, Croats, Bosnians, Montenegrans, Kosovars, and Macedonians.

The breakup of Yugoslavia was partially driven by the desire of emerging indpenedent nation states wanting to leave Serbia's obrbit to joing the E.U.  Serbia has historically been a proxy for Russian national interests in the Balkans.

Ukraine is trying to breakaway from Russia's orbit to join the E.U., and join NATO if that's what is required to maintain independence from Russia, Russian interference, Russian influenece, and Russian dominance.  Russia is desperately trying to stop it, much like Serbia tried to stop Slovenia, and Croatia.  Croatia was a buffer between Slovenia and Serbia.  Croatia conceded Slavonia to Serbia to gain its independence.  Putin is pursuing a similar policy with Ukraine, but cannot tolerate it.  Croatia and Slovenia later joined NATO, in addition to the E.U., partially out of concern that they were not safe from Serbian and Russian designs for them.

Russia wins if keeps conquered territory and the Ukranians reject joining the E.U. and N.A.T.O.  If Ukraine does not become a member of the E.U., it is doomed to become a Putin satellite state, like Belarus and Moldova.
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The only thing Joe will seize is the pudding cup Jill is handing him.
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You lost me right there.
Using an example from 1995 when Clinton(didn't like him but he was mentally sharp) was POTUS and trying to sell Biden as being able or capable of doing the same? Simply ludicrous!

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The best option to preserve Ukrainian sovereignty and independence is to push Russian forces back into Russia, Belarus, and Moldova.

The breakup of the Yugoslavia was a smaller version of what is happening in the old domains of the USSR.

Yugoslavia was a facade for a Greater Serbia.  In the 1990s, Serbia fought in Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo re-assert its previous dominance of the emerging independent nation states of the Slovenians, Croats, Bosnians, Montenegrans, Kosovars, and Macedonians.

The breakup of Yugoslavia was partially driven by the desire of emerging indpenedent nation states wanting to leave Serbia's obrbit to joing the E.U.  Serbia has historically been a proxy for Russian national interests in the Balkans.

Ukraine is trying to breakaway from Russia's orbit to join the E.U., and join NATO if that's what is required to maintain independence from Russia, Russian interference, Russian influenece, and Russian dominance.  Russia is desperately trying to stop it, much like Serbia tried to stop Slovenia, and Croatia.  Croatia was a buffer between Slovenia and Serbia.  Croatia conceded Slavonia to Serbia to gain its independence.  Putin is pursuing a similar policy with Ukraine, but cannot tolerate it.  Croatia and Slovenia later joined NATO, in addition to the E.U., partially out of concern that they were not safe from Serbian and Russian designs for them.

Russia wins if keeps conquered territory and the Ukranians reject joining the E.U. and N.A.T.O.  If Ukraine does not become a member of the E.U., it is doomed to become a Putin satellite state, like Belarus and Moldova.

Good analysis!

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The best option to preserve Ukrainian sovereignty and independence is to push Russian forces back into Russia, Belarus, and Moldova.

Hear hear !!!  This won't end until the Ukrainian flag is flying in Rostov and Smolensk.
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