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Re: Zelensky invokes 9/11 in pressing Congress for help
« Reply #50 on: March 16, 2022, 05:31:26 pm »
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Re: Zelensky invokes 9/11 in pressing Congress for help
« Reply #52 on: March 16, 2022, 05:34:11 pm »

Vlad, if America were to dust off the old Cold War covert operations manual, you would be in danger of losing (Russian) Georgia, Moldova, Belarus, and Kaliningrad, if not more.


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Re: Zelensky invokes 9/11 in pressing Congress for help
« Reply #53 on: March 16, 2022, 05:36:46 pm »
It would be nice to see Biden actually deliver weapons than to make announcements about weapons he is planning to send.
He's promised a gazillion dollars worth of stuff to Ukraine. How much has been delivered?
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Re: Zelensky invokes 9/11 in pressing Congress for help
« Reply #54 on: March 16, 2022, 05:38:22 pm »
Biden doesn't have a 'best foot'.

It is time for Congress to invoke the 2th Amendment NOW! Joe not being able to answer questions, finish sentences and yet he is making decisions as CIC?

Again, as I mentioned earlier, Zilenskyy's speech I though was in insult.  He tried to guilt the U.S.A. into intervening, giving him billions and implementing a no-fly-zone. 

People need to realize that his propaganda will create WW III.  Problem is, we don't know what kind of deal Joe previously made with Zilenskyy.  Something triggered Putin; just my opinion, and not choosing sides, but this is one war that the U.S. may not win.  It will most likely draw in China and the ME and possibly NK.

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Re: Zelensky invokes 9/11 in pressing Congress for help
« Reply #55 on: March 16, 2022, 05:40:45 pm »
25th but number 2 could work.

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Re: Zelensky invokes 9/11 in pressing Congress for help
« Reply #56 on: March 16, 2022, 05:47:57 pm »
You're being too kind.   :laugh:

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Maybe he's being groomed for some kind of NWO administrative position. 

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Re: Zelensky invokes 9/11 in pressing Congress for help
« Reply #57 on: March 16, 2022, 07:14:02 pm »
Biden doesn't have a 'best foot'.
How can you tell with both of them stuffed in his mouth while his head is up his...

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Re: Zelensky invokes 9/11 in pressing Congress for help
« Reply #58 on: March 16, 2022, 07:29:16 pm »
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this disgusting con man in a sweatshirt wants americans to die for his country on his whims, and our leaders and the press are begging us to treat him like some kind of winston churchill, this is all too crass for words

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Re: Zelensky invokes 9/11 in pressing Congress for help
« Reply #59 on: March 16, 2022, 08:50:14 pm »
How can you tell with both of them stuffed in his mouth while his head is up his...

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Re: Zelensky invokes 9/11 in pressing Congress for help
« Reply #60 on: March 16, 2022, 09:21:22 pm »
I've been a fan of Patrick J. Buchanan for many years.
He's the ONLY person I've ever donated campaign money to (when he ran for president in '92).

Yet for a long time I was taken aback by his isolationism.
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Re: Zelensky invokes 9/11 in pressing Congress for help
« Reply #61 on: March 16, 2022, 09:25:20 pm »
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this disgusting con man in a sweatshirt wants americans to die for his country on his whims, and our leaders and the press are begging us to treat him like some kind of winston churchill, this is all too crass for words

If we gave him the MiGs, he wouldn't be asking for a no-fly zone.
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Re: Zelensky invokes 9/11 in pressing Congress for help
« Reply #62 on: March 16, 2022, 09:46:45 pm »
If we gave him the MiGs, he wouldn't be asking for a no-fly zone.
Are the MiGs ours to give? We don't fly MiGs. Poland is the country with leftover MiGs.

 If Poland wants to give them to Ukraine, why don't they leave them at the border and say, "Come get 'em"? I don't understand why the US has to be involved in this transaction.
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Re: Zelensky invokes 9/11 in pressing Congress for help
« Reply #63 on: March 16, 2022, 10:01:31 pm »
Are the MiGs ours to give? We don't fly MiGs. Poland is the country with leftover MiGs.

 If Poland wants to give them to Ukraine, why don't they leave them at the border and say, "Come get 'em"? I don't understand why the US has to be involved in this transaction.

Most likely because it implicates NATO.

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Re: Zelensky invokes 9/11 in pressing Congress for help
« Reply #64 on: March 16, 2022, 10:04:23 pm »
Most likely because it implicates NATO.
Apparently, from what I've read, it's also because Poland seems to expect us to "reimburse" them for the MiGs with bright, shiny new jets. All I see is Poland wanting us to give them jets. Give?

No, Poland ask that they be replaced with old used F-16s (which are actually older than the MiG-29s).  Blinken had already indicated that the idea of replacements was acceptable, and that the details were being worked out.

It was the US State Department that came up with the plan of Poland turning the jets over to the US first.  When Poland agreed, the Defense Department stepped forward to block it.  So now if Poland turns the jets over directly to Ukraine, they won't be getting any used F-16s.  Which means they'll be down a couple of dozen planes with a hostile Russia inching closer to their border.
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Re: Zelensky invokes 9/11 in pressing Congress for help
« Reply #65 on: March 16, 2022, 10:06:31 pm »
Apparently, from what I've read, it's also because Poland seems to expect us to "reimburse" them for the MiGs with bright, shiny new jets. All I see is Poland wanting us to give them jets. Give?

From the perspective of integrating Poland into NATO, it would make sense for them to be flying U.S. aircraft and not old Soviet MiGs.  There is a strategic perspective to this that is being underappreciated.

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« Reply #66 on: March 16, 2022, 10:09:52 pm »
From the perspective of integrating Poland into NATO, it would make sense for them to be flying U.S. aircraft and not old Soviet MiGs.  There is a strategic perspective to this that is being underappreciated.
I'm not denying that Poland should fly something other than 30 or 40 year old Russian jets. But could they possibly pay for them?
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Re: Zelensky invokes 9/11 in pressing Congress for help
« Reply #67 on: March 16, 2022, 10:53:34 pm »
I'm not denying that Poland should fly something other than 30 or 40 year old Russian jets. But could they possibly pay for them?

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We never got to the negotiations on that point.