Democrats Pass $1.5 Trillion Omnibus Spending Bill After Democrat Disarray

[roamer_1]

The two combined have posted about 1/6 of what you have contributed here, so I wouldn't worry about them nipping at your heels.   The lesser of two evils argument has been beat to death here at TBR, and the best outcome IMO, is just to agree to disagree.

I have come to conclusion, that fiscal responsibilty in our government is dead. That includes GOP and the dimocratic party.   We are on a Collision course with disaster, and the really only pertinent point is do we die quickly Biden or company, or with a slow drip wiith Trump and the GOP RINO brigade?

Me?  I prefer the slower approach, because that allows more time for miracles.  That is why I will vote GOP in 2022 and 2024.

I will disagree (respectfully)... It does not matter which side is in power - 5T a year no matter what. When GNP is roughly 6T, well, Choosing a side is a bit like picking nits.

There is nothing for it - Nothing at all, except to demand performance from Republicans, which is what I do. The only hope there is is for the Right to do as they promised... To fulfill their obligation.

Without that, Venezuela, sure enough.

[Cyber Liberty]

[christian]

roamer1:
Naw. I've been a pox on all your houses all the way along - With special sauce for Tumpy and friends for claiming to be conservative - Which he ain't - At all. If there's a bone to pick it's that.

People went with NeverTrumpers and everything we have gotten from Biden is part and parcel to what we now have.  To the asylum-ers, do as roamer1 insists and utterly defeat the Republicans and exterminate them as a party, and see just how bad the democrats can be with their one socialist party and nothing and no one to stop them.  If that's what is takes to convince you how stupid you are, well i guess the Country will have to die to convince you how stupid you really are.  I expect when the mindless sherd roaches finally see the light of day, they will go into hiding, or try to lie their way out of what they accomplished.   You really want hell to reign over you?  Venezuela? When did  Americans get so stupid as to believe a one party Communist style government style could end up with positive results?  Already Biden whats food shortages that threaten civilizations around the world.  Just like the good ole days of Stalin.

[Hoodat]

People went with NeverTrumpers and everything we have gotten from Biden is part and parcel to what we now have.

@christian

The logical fallacy you are employing here is the false dilemma.  You offer two choices - #AlwaysTrump and #NeverTrump without acknowledging that there can be a third option.  This was a hot topic here back in 2016.

What you don't want to admit is that there are people here who can be #SometimesTrump or #SometimesNotTrump.  That doesn't make them Biden supporters.  It makes them people who follow an ideology or philosophy and stick with it even when their so-called leaders stumble and fall.

Imagine for a moment that Trump was still President.  He makes a big anouncement on how labor shortages were hurting American construction businesses and that he had decided to tear down whatever border wall we had up and would open the border gates and allow anyone to enter, and make them citizens overnight.  At that point, would you still be #AlwaysTrump?

I am sure there is some issue that is more important to you than any other.  Maybe it is immigration.  Maybe it is energy independence.  Or maybe protectionist trade laws.  Or welfare, or tax laws.  Whatever issue that is, I assume you are passionate enough to turn on anyone who violated your philosophy, right?  Well small government is @roamer_1 's key issue.  So have some respect.  Put yourself in his shoes with your key issue.

But if this is truly about allegiance to Trump, then there is no hope.  Because yours is with those timid souls who died in a Berlin bunker in 1945 because they remained loyal to their leader no matter how wrong he turned out to be.

[Hoodat]

Oh, and the reason we got stuck with Biden is because Democrats cheated, and Republicans provided cover.

[sneakypete]

Oh, and the reason we got stuck with Biden is because Democrats cheated, and Republicans provided cover.

@Hoodat

I think that is something we can all agree with,regardless of who we support now.

[roamer_1]

roamer1:
Naw. I've been a pox on all your houses all the way along - With special sauce for Tumpy and friends for claiming to be conservative - Which he ain't - At all. If there's a bone to pick it's that.

People went with NeverTrumpers and everything we have gotten from Biden is part and parcel to what we now have.  To the asylum-ers, do as roamer1 insists and utterly defeat the Republicans and exterminate them as a party, and see just how bad the democrats can be with their one socialist party and nothing and no one to stop them.  If that's what is takes to convince you how stupid you are, well i guess the Country will have to die to convince you how stupid you really are.  I expect when the mindless sherd roaches finally see the light of day, they will go into hiding, or try to lie their way out of what they accomplished.   You really want hell to reign over you?  Venezuela? When did  Americans get so stupid as to believe a one party Communist style government style could end up with positive results?  Already Biden whats food shortages that threaten civilizations around the world.  Just like the good ole days of Stalin.

What is hilarious is that it is YOU that is promoting uniparty. It is YOU that promotes big.gov from both parties making them a single thing.

Every liberal wet dream was paid for by Tumpy and Republicans, written into law just exactly like it is happening now under democrats.

I promote CONSEQUENCES on the right. There should be a price to pay for spending more than Democrats. And that price can only be the withholding of endorsement. And I will continue to withhold endorsement to provide consequence for EVERY infraction against Conservatism. And I will stand on it and preach it, and I really don't give a shit what you think - If you are willing to let the Republicans spend like Democrats, then you
are part of the problem.

[roamer_1]

Well small government is @roamer_1 's key issue. 

Great post - But just for clarification, The principles of Conservatism are my key issue. Of course that includes small government, and small government certainly needs the representation right now... But I will rise to defend all the principles of Conservatism, and always will.

[christian]

You got your way with NeverTrump, aND WE HAVE bIDEN BECAUSE OF IT.  ALL THIS BITCHNG AND BAWLING OVER bIDEN BY PEOPLE THAT WERE GLAD TO SEE bIDEN WIN AND tRUMP FAIL.  A mind that depraved and degenerate determines what they are deserving of in times to come.  That disturbs even me!  The excuses and reasonings are what got us in this Biden mess, so you got your way, quit bitching, enjoy the horror you worked so hard to achieve.  The excuses do not exonerate, but rather damn the confessors.
You got it you way, shut up and take it! Bragging when they win, bawling when they win, there isn't enough therapy/therapists.
 

[roamer_1]

You got your way with NeverTrump, aND WE HAVE bIDEN BECAUSE OF IT.  ALL THIS BITCHNG AND BAWLING OVER bIDEN BY PEOPLE THAT WERE GLAD TO SEE bIDEN WIN AND tRUMP FAIL.  A mind that depraved and degenerate determines what they are deserving of in times to come.  That disturbs even me!  The excuses and reasonings are what got us in this Biden mess, so you got your way, quit bitching, enjoy the horror you worked so hard to achieve.  The excuses do not exonerate, but rather damn the confessors.
You got it you way, shut up and take it! Bragging when they win, bawling when they win, there isn't enough therapy/therapists.
 

What crybaby bullcrap.

As I said, worry about your own house.

[Hoodat]

You got your way with NeverTrump, aND WE HAVE bIDEN BECAUSE OF IT.

I see that @christian did not bother to read a single word of my post.

[mountaineer]

Just stop. Please.

[christian]

Hoodat:
I see that @christian did not bother to read a single word of my post.

christian:
Wrong, i read you posts,and roamer1 does not constant  need your assistance, he can hold his own.
 Remove you lips.....

[Hoodat]

christian:
Wrong, i read you posts,and roamer1 does not constant  need your assistance, he can hold his own.
 Remove you lips.....

I'm not worried about @roamer_1 holding his own.  I'm worried about your complete disconnect with reason and critical thought.  For you to say that you read an explanation of a false dilemma, and then proceeded to continue engaging in one is quite worrisome.  Such a spectacle can only be based on either ignorance or a willful lack of honesty.

[catfish1957]

I'm worried about your complete disconnect with reason and critical thought.  For you to say that you read an explanation of a false dilemma, and then proceeded to continue engaging in one is quite worrisome.  Such a spectacle can only be based on either ignorance or a willful lack of honesty.

You can actually make a comment like that with a straight face?  Some of the most extreme use of irony I have ever seen at TBR.

[LMAO]

When it comes to Trump, there seems to be two extreme ends. It’s either irrational hatred or unquestioning support. Neither are good. Like someone mentioned here before, I don’t know which group makes up the larger number

It is highly doubtful anybody  on this forum  supports Joe Biden. But there are more than a couple that any critique, even though it’s factual, causes a predictable response. That response usually involves  name calling, strawman arguments, or just simply making the poster the issue instead of the point made

When you ask them fair questions, though, they ignore you. I have learned it’s best to ignore them. Intense hatred or intense love are two emotions that data and facts are hard to cut through

[Kamaji]

Hey guys (and girls, and, well, whatevers - ask Judge whose-her-name), if we don't simmer down a little bit, admin and myst will be in here tearing some new ones!

[mountaineer]

When it comes to Trump, there seems to be two extreme ends. It’s either irrational hatred or unquestioning support. Neither are good. Like someone mentioned here before, I don’t know which group makes up the larger number

Not really. There are a lot of us, even at this forum, in the middle ground.

[LMAO]

Not really. There are a lot of us, even at this forum, in the middle ground.

Right. I should have mention that in my post but most people on this forum are  in the middle when comes to Donald Trump.

[Hoodat]

Not really. There are a lot of us, even at this forum, in the middle ground.

You mean these guys?  #SometimesTrump and #SometimesNotTrump

It is a logical fallacy to pretend there are only #AlwaysTrump and #NeverTrump.

[christian]

You mean these guys?  #SometimesTrump and #SometimesNotTrump

It is a logical fallacy to pretend there are only #AlwaysTrump and #NeverTrump.

Odd how support for Trump is such a bad terrible thing, but support for NeverTrumpers gets support by the absence of the same critic?  It happens so many times the denials become laughable! and overly obvious.

Speculation: how many butt kissers do the Biden minions and NeverTrumpers have here?  Some times they crowd a bit thick here.  Their Denials and lies aside, of course.