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Offline Elderberry

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Convention of states could be a Trojan horse
« on: February 21, 2022, 12:40:14 am »
Press Register by LUTHER MUNFORD 2/17/2022

Anyone who thinks the Convention of the States is a good idea should ask the people of ancient Troy what they thought of the nice gift wooden horse the Greeks left outside their gates. Grateful, the Trojans brought it into their city. Then the Greek soldiers hidden inside jumped out and sacked the town.

The Mississippi legislature has passed a resolution calling for a convention of the states to rewrite the U.S. Constitution. Although the resolution states certain vague objectives, to which some now would like to add term limits, the first point to consider is that those objectives will not necessarily control what the convention will do.  It should be remembered that the delegates to our first constitutional convention in 1787 were called “for the sole and express purpose of revising the Articles of Confederation.” But when they gathered they promptly threw out the whole document and started afresh. The American Legislative Exchange Council, which favors a Convention of the States to limit the number of U.S. Supreme Court justices, advocates a resolution restricting the purpose of a convention, but there is no precedent for that.

The second point to consider is the danger that the Constitution might be amended by  representatives elected by a very small number of voters.  To understand this, it is worth comparing the two different ways of amending the constitution.

The first way, and the one that has always been used in the past, is for an amendment to be approved by a three-fourths vote in both houses of Congress and then ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the states.

More: https://www.pressregister.com/columns-editorials-local-content/convention-states-could-be-trojan-horse-620f347d3d749

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Re: Convention of states could be a Trojan horse
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2022, 01:10:20 am »
It took 13 years after the Constitution was drafted to be ratified by 13 states.... how many decades will it take with 50 states?
Do we have the time?

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Re: Convention of states could be a Trojan horse
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2022, 01:11:44 am »
We have a perfectly good constitution with the exception of a couple of Amendments.
(16 and 17, in case you were wondering)


Why don't we just try using that?
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Re: Convention of states could be a Trojan horse
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2022, 01:42:23 am »
We have a perfectly good constitution with the exception of a couple of Amendments.
(16 and 17, in case you were wondering)


Why don't we just try using that?
Well, term limits and balanced budget?  The pukes that are in there will never adopt those so where's the fix?

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Re: Convention of states could be a Trojan horse
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2022, 02:15:38 am »
Well, term limits and balanced budget?  The pukes that are in there will never adopt those so where's the fix?
Vote the b@st@rds out!
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis