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Why is Biden warning a Russian invasion of Ukraine is imminent? And what if Putin calls his bluff? B
« on: February 11, 2022, 08:24:04 pm »
Why is Biden warning a Russian invasion of Ukraine is imminent? And what if Putin calls his bluff?
Putin can get what he wants from a Ukraine standoff without an invasion

By K.T. McFarland | Fox New

The Biden administration keeps yammering on about Russia invading Ukraine any minute, warning Russian troops could take Kyiv in three hours. It's right about Russian capabilities, but why is the administration screaming it from the rooftops? Does it think Europeans, especially Germany, will be spurred into action? 

Well, that ship sailed a year ago when President Joe Biden started shutting down the U.S. energy industry, while at the same time allowing Russian energy exports to expand. He threw away American energy independence. It drove up oil and gas prices, hurt the U.S. and European economies, and made Russia rich.

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz's position was pretty clear – to everyone except apparently Biden – when the two met at the White House this week. At their joint press conference, Biden announced: "If Russia invades, that means tanks and troops crossing the border of Ukraine again, then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it."

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Re: Why is Biden warning a Russian invasion of Ukraine is imminent? And what if Putin calls his bluf
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2022, 08:48:45 pm »
Is China moving on Taiwan yet?
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Re: Why is Biden warning a Russian invasion of Ukraine is imminent? And what if Putin calls his bluf
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2022, 09:16:28 pm »
Quote from: Kamaji on February 11, 2022, 08:48:45 pm
Is China moving on Taiwan yet?

Well, you know that's coming..
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Re: Why is Biden warning a Russian invasion of Ukraine is imminent? And what if Putin calls his bluf
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2022, 09:20:08 pm »
Spoke with someone from Budapest today who, knowing the Russians for the bullies they are, is convinced they will invade Ukraine.
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Re: Why is Biden warning a Russian invasion of Ukraine is imminent? And what if Putin calls his bluf
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2022, 09:39:13 pm »
Based upon historical precedent, Putin expects the West to abandon eastern and central European as they did in the 1930s.

His calculus is that western nations don't value eastern and central Europe as much as Russia does.

He will move on Ukraine because it is not a NATO member.

He will move on Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania, and Bulgaria despite being members of NATO.  His calculus is that western Atlantic and western European countries will not shed their sons' blood to save remnants of the old Soviet empire.

The west has historically failed to shed their sons' blood to maintain the independence of Czechoslovakia, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and Austria in the 1930s.

The west will protest, but Putin will expand his new Soviet empire and demonstrate to eastern and central European nations that they are less-than-equal members of NATO and the E.U.
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Re: Why is Biden warning a Russian invasion of Ukraine is imminent? And what if Putin calls his bluf
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2022, 10:24:00 pm »
Quote from: DefiantMassRINO on February 11, 2022, 09:39:13 pm
Based upon historical precedent, Putin expects the West to abandon eastern and central European as they did in the 1930s.

His calculus is that western nations don't value eastern and central Europe as much as Russia does.

He will move on Ukraine because it is not a NATO member.

He will move on Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania, and Bulgaria despite being members of NATO.  His calculus is that western Atlantic and western European countries will not shed their sons' blood to save remnants of the old Soviet empire.

The west has historically failed to shed their sons' blood to maintain the independence of Czechoslovakia, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and Austria in the 1930s.

The west will protest, but Putin will expand his new Soviet empire and demonstrate to eastern and central European nations that they are less-than-equal members of NATO and the E.U.

On the non-NATO part, I tend to agree.  With respect to the NATO members, I think it will take much longer before he takes them over.  A lot will depend on exactly how the West reacts after the Ukraine takeover.
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Re: Why is Biden warning a Russian invasion of Ukraine is imminent? And what if Putin calls his bluf
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2022, 10:30:24 pm »
Ukraine is scheduled to become part of the European Union (EU) in 2024.

That's ALL you have to know if looking for a reason for Putin to act now. 

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Re: Why is Biden warning a Russian invasion of Ukraine is imminent? And what if Putin calls his bluf
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2022, 10:37:43 pm »
Why does Biden think he can win a psyops war with an ex-KGB agent?

Biden is recreating the dick measuring ego clash of Hitler and Stalin.
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