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Whoopi Goldberg Suspended from ABC’s ‘The View’ over Holocaust Comments
 
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Whoopi Goldberg has been suspended from ABC following her controversial comments about the Holocaust in which she said the extermination of six million Jews was not about race.

“Effective immediately, I am suspending Whoopi Goldberg for two weeks for her wrong and hurtful comments,” ABC News president Kim Godwin said in a statement.

“While Whoopi has apologized, I’ve asked her to take time to reflect and learn about the impact of her comments,” Godwin added. “The entire ABC News organization stands in solidarity with our Jewish colleagues, friends, family and communities.”

Several sources told Page Six that ABC insiders are neither pleased with Whoopi Goldberg’s Holocaust comments nor her apology after the initial backlash and believe she should be disciplined.

“ABC staffers and Disney Network execs are saying Whoopi went way too far. And board members are not happy with her apology and want a fuller retraction. The word is that Whoopi is in ‘deep shit,’” one ABC source told the outlet.

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2022/02/01/whoopi-goldberg-suspended-from-abcs-the-view-over-holocaust-comments/

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The best take I've seen on this is the suggestion by a New York Post columnist that if Caryn Johnson feels that way she should drop the name "Goldberg" she appropriated from another cultural and racial group.  (Whoopi she can keep.)
Joy Behar is also a very Jewish name. In fact, Behar is explicitly spoken Hebrew. It literally means 'on/of the mountain'.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists.

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Whoopi definitely wasn't "suspended." She sat down with producers and they agreed that Rubber Rooming her for a couple of weeks will take the heat off and also give the impression that they took it seriously and "did something." This isn't cancel culture. You're being played.
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Whoopi was weighed down with the gravity of this heavy subject.  The girth of these rotund statements are hard to carry.

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Whoopi was weighed down with the gravity of this heavy subject.  The girth of these rotund statements are hard to carry.

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Whoopi Goldberg ‘livid,’ threatening to quit ‘The View’ over her suspension: source
NY Post, Feb 2, 2022

Whoopi Goldberg is "livid" after she was suspended from "The View" over her claim that the Holocaust was "not about race" -- and is telling co-workers she is going to quit the show, according to a source.

Goldberg, 66, feels "humiliated" at being disciplined by ABC execs after she followed their advice to apologize for the ill-conceived comments, a well-placed insider told The Post.

"She feels ABC executives mishandled this. She followed their playbook. She went on 'The Late Show With Steven Colbert' and then apologized again on 'The View' the next day," a source said.

The source added that while Goldberg is taking the suspension hard and says she wants to leave the show, insiders believe she's likely just sounding off.

"Her ego has been hurt and she's telling people she's going to quit," the source said. "Suspension from 'The View' is like getting suspended from Bravo. The bar is very low."

Reps for Goldberg and ABC did not return requests for comment.


https://nypost.com/2022/02/02/whoopi-goldberg-threatening-to-quit-the-view-source/

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Whoopi Goldberg ‘livid,’ threatening to quit ‘The View’ over her suspension: source
NY Post, Feb 2, 2022

Whoopi Goldberg is "livid" after she was suspended from "The View" over her claim that the Holocaust was "not about race" -- and is telling co-workers she is going to quit the show, according to a source.

Goldberg, 66, feels "humiliated" at being disciplined by ABC execs after she followed their advice to apologize for the ill-conceived comments, a well-placed insider told The Post.

"She feels ABC executives mishandled this. She followed their playbook. She went on 'The Late Show With Steven Colbert' and then apologized again on 'The View' the next day," a source said.

The source added that while Goldberg is taking the suspension hard and says she wants to leave the show, insiders believe she's likely just sounding off.

"Her ego has been hurt and she's telling people she's going to quit," the source said. "Suspension from 'The View' is like getting suspended from Bravo. The bar is very low."

Reps for Goldberg and ABC did not return requests for comment.


https://nypost.com/2022/02/02/whoopi-goldberg-threatening-to-quit-the-view-source/

In other words:  Caryn Johnson throws a hissy fit.  I wonder if she jumped up and down and stomped her (not so) little feet as well.

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Whoopi Goldberg Reportedly 'Livid' Over Suspension, Has Begun Levying Threats
By Bonchie | Feb 02, 2022 3:30 PM ET

The saga of Whoopi Golberg’s anti-Semitic commentary continues apace. If you aren’t familiar with the original story, click here for the full details. In short, Goldberg tried to argue on “The View” that the Holocaust was “not about race” and that it was just “white people fighting white people.” That’s a common trope meant to minimize the Holocaust as some kind of lesser form of discrimination.

Goldberg, never being the sharpest tool in the shed, then went on with Stephen Colbert to explain herself. That didn’t go well, and she essentially doubled down. That likely represented the breaking point for ABC’s management because the next day, they suspended her for two weeks.

Initially, some speculated that Goldberg was happy with the suspension because it offered her protection while things blew over. That doesn’t appear to be the case, though. New reports are emerging that Goldberg is “livid” and is now threatening to quit “The View.”


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She is hearing rumors about getting terminated from The View.
So she is coming out strong with, "I didn't get fired ... I quit!"
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists.

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She is hearing rumors about getting terminated from The View.
So she is coming out strong with, "I didn't get fired ... I quit!"

That's possible.  If it happens, she'll claim she is a poor oppressed black who was forced out by systemic racism/white supremacy.

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That's possible.  If it happens, she'll claim she is a poor oppressed black who was forced out by systemic racism/white supremacy.
She will blame it on the Jooooos. Those Jewish bastards got me!
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
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She will blame it on the Jooooos. Those Jewish bastards got me!

Yup.  Most likely.

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I don't get the problem here what she said was the truth, just because Hitler called the Jews a Race, doesn't mean the The Jews are a race of people like blacks. We have the left now harassing Whoopi for telling the truth. 

What am I missing here?

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I don't get the problem here what she said was the truth, just because Hitler called the Jews a Race, doesn't mean the The Jews are a race of people like blacks. We have the left now harassing Whoopi for telling the truth. 

What am I missing here?


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I don't get the problem here what she said was the truth, just because Hitler called the Jews a Race, doesn't mean the The Jews are a race of people like blacks. We have the left now harassing Whoopi for telling the truth. 

What am I missing here?

Technically and definitionally yes I suppose, but the semantics of what she said and how she said is seriously wrong on many levels.

It may have not be racial genocide, but it was ethnic genocide. Basically distinctions without a difference IMO.
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Technically and definitionally yes I suppose, but the semantics of what she said and how she said is seriously wrong on many levels.

It may have not be racial genocide, but it was ethnic genocide. Basically distinctions without a difference IMO.

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I don't get the problem here what she said was the truth, just because Hitler called the Jews a Race, doesn't mean the The Jews are a race of people like blacks. We have the left now harassing Whoopi for telling the truth. 

What am I missing here?

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LOL!   I feel ya, brother/sister!

Judism is NOT a race.    At best they are a tight-group nationality that goes back thousands of years.

The Holocaust  was exactly what Goldberg said it was...a ethnic genocide proving man's inhumanity to man.

And with that... I'm outta here!    :bolt:
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I don't get the problem here what she said was the truth, just because Hitler called the Jews a Race, doesn't mean the The Jews are a race of people like blacks. We have the left now harassing Whoopi for telling the truth. 

What am I missing here?

What you are missing is that the whole notion of race is socially constructed.  (Yes, that notion is misused by the left, in claiming that all manner of objective realities are socially constructed, but there are, in fact, things which are not objective realities, and are, in fact, socially constructed).

In America, the social construction of race has been formulated on the 'one drop rule':   if one has any ancestor from Sub-Saharan Africa, one is "Black".  In Brazil, the notion of "Black" is determined entirely by skin color and says nothing about ancestry -- so a Dravidian who moved from India to Brazil would be Black, while an albino descendant of slaves imported from Sub-Saharan Africa would not.  In Africa there are racial distinctions among different peoples all with very dark skin, and not always based on skin color (cf. the notorious attempted genocide of dark-skinned ectomorphs -- Tutsis -- by dark-skinned endomorphs -- Hutus -- in Rawanda).  The Nazi claim that Jews are a "race" has as sound of scientific underpinnings as the "one drop rule", the Brazilian notion of Blackness, or the body-type distinction that sparked the Rawandan genocide. (Just as there are genetic markers of Sub-Saharan ancestry, of high melanin content in the skin, and of body-type, there are genetic markers of Jewish ancestry shared by Ashkenazim and Sephardim alike.)  Which genetic distinctions between populations constitute difference of "race" is not a matter of objective fact, but of social convention only.
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'Race' is much more than just skin color. There are national aspects as well.

But more than that, it is an abomination to say this was two White groups fighting each other. The Jews only fought to defend themselves from the self-described Aryans.

It was far from two groups of Whites warring. This was a case of ultimate government power out of control and being used to exterminate minor ethnic groups within the same society.
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I don't get the problem here what she said was the truth, just because Hitler called the Jews a Race, doesn't mean the The Jews are a race of people like blacks. We have the left now harassing Whoopi for telling the truth. 

What am I missing here?

The Nazis exterminate 6 million Jews and 5 million Slavs and Ukrainians because they were Jews, Slavs, and Ukrainians, regardless of your own personal opinion of whether Jews, Slavs, and Ukrainians are races of people.  There is no guesswork needed here.  The National Socialists were quite open in regard to their racial beliefs.  The Nuremberg Race Laws were called Race Laws for a reason.

The only "truth" that Whoopi told was the truth of her own bigoted beliefs.  She is no different than a Holocaust denier because she is denying the very foundation of Eichmann's "Final Solution".  So in answer to your question, there is a hell of a lot  you are missing here.  A hell of a lot.


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Judism is NOT a race.    At best they are a tight-group nationality that goes back thousands of years.

The Holocaust  was exactly what Goldberg said it was...a ethnic genocide proving man's inhumanity to man.

Again, 113 Catholic priests and nuns from the Netherlands, all sent to their deaths at Auschwitz.  Why?  Because they had a parent that was Jewish.  You can deny it all you want.  But the Nazis were bent on exterminating the Jews based solely upon their race.  They didn't care about their religion.  They didn't care about their nationality.  They cared only about their genetic makeup.  German and Jew?  Then you were a Jew to be sent to Poland.  Catholic and Jew?  Off to Poland.  Prussian and Jew?  To the death camps for you.  With the extensive documentation of Nazi atrocities and the underlying philosophy behind them, it is mind blowing to hear someone especially in here actually say that race had nothing to do with Nazi tenet of creating a pure Aryan society devoid of any substandard races.
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Jews are not a Race they are more like a tribe or a religion.

My point is Still Valid Just because "NAZI Propaganda Called Jews a Race so they could lump Jews together and add a Racist name tag to them, then use the Race/Tag as a scapegoat". Doesn't mean it had anything to do with Race.
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It was NAZI Propaganda that invoked/created this Racism scenario. If you say that Whoopie lied and it was just racism that motivated the NAZI's, that must mean you believe the NAZI Propaganda, and agree with the NAZI propaganda, and are therefore A NAZI yourself.

But if you believe that Whoopie is correct, then NAZI Propaganda is just junk, all you are left with truth that it was White on White ( "what ever she said" ) is correct and truthful.

"sometimes the truth hurts"

No this is not correct:

 'Race' is much more than just skin color. There are national aspects as well.

They cared only about their genetic makeup


Race all about skin color, not genetic makeup, national origin, location of birth or bowl movements.

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My point is Still Valid Just because "NAZI Propaganda Called Jews a Race so they could lump Jews together and add a Racist name tag to them, then use the Race/Tag as a scapegoat". Doesn't mean it had anything to do with Race.

So Nazis killing Jews because of their race didn't have anything to do with Race?  Seriously?


If you say that Whoopie lied and it was just racism that motivated the NAZI's, that must mean you believe the NAZI Propaganda, and agree with the NAZI propaganda, and are therefore A NAZI yourself.

I see that logic is not your strong suit.


Race all about skin color, not genetic makeup, national origin, location of birth or bowl movements.

There are other traits besides skin color.  The Japanese, Chinese, Koreans, and Mongolians all have the same skin color.  But the Japanese considered the other three inferior and worthy of slave labor due to their ethnicity.
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