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There's disturbing vaccine data coming from Scotland
« on: January 24, 2022, 03:19:39 pm »
January 24, 2022
There's disturbing vaccine data coming from Scotland
By Andrea Widburg

The vaccines are proving to be a constantly moving target.  Two shots will save us.  No, three will.  No, better make it four.  Heck, let's just keep it open-ended, but you'd better get shots if you want to work, shop, eat out, go to a concert, maybe even board a plane.  But what happens to this manic shot regime when we're beginning to get data showing that not only do the shots not prevent people from getting COVID (which is the traditional effect of a vaccine), but they may actually leave people more vulnerable to COVID?

Israel, which was so terrified of having COVID shut it down, thereby leaving it vulnerable to the genocidal organizations and nations around it, embarked upon the most aggressive vaccination program in the world.  Now it's the nation with the world's highest per capita COVID rate, per a weekend report:

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    Israel recorded 69,201 new coronavirus cases in the past 24 hours, according to an update to the Health Ministry's website on Friday.

    There are 427,023 active Covid cases in Israel, making it the country with the highest number of cases per capita, ahead of Slovenia.

    The caseload, driven by the highly contagious omicron variant, includes 638 patients in serious condition and 124 on artificial lung ventilation. Of those currently hospitalized in serious condition, 84% are over the age of 60.

    The death toll, as of Friday afternoon, was at 8,371.

    The positivity rate in Covid tests reached record highs of 20.13 percent.

    In total, 2.2 million Israelis were infected since the start of the pandemic. Some 4.5 million received three doses of the vaccine and over 500,000 four doses.

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Re: There's disturbing vaccine data coming from Scotland
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2022, 02:21:31 pm »
Data about the vaccines is disappearing
Alex Berenson
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Scotland is one of the most transparent countries about Covid vaccines.

Whoops! I mean Scotland WAS one of the most transparent.

The country just said mRNA shots work so well that the raw data showing how well they work will no longer be released. Because they work so well.
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... Rates of death remain lower in people who were not vaccinated than those who received two doses, as they have for months:

Now let’s look at the whole chart, including boosters - no misinformation here!
... In other words, almost 9 out of 10 of the people who die in Scotland are vaccinated, and the vast majority of those are boosted. And deaths remain stubbornly high, even though Omicron is far milder.  ...More at Alex Berenson's Substack site
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Re: There's disturbing vaccine data coming from Scotland
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2022, 07:52:25 pm »
So I've been thinking about this... are the vaccines themselves making the immune system weaker? I doubt it—after all, cases did go down in the spring, almost to elimination. So there was a temporary positive effect.

But consider: we do know that natural immunity appears to be longer-lasting than that from the vaccines, because more of the spike proteins are recognized by the immune system that way. So when Delta hit, a strain that was more contagious but not as vaccine-resistant, it infected a large portion of the unvaccinated, leaving them either dead (which wasn't common) or with natural immunity.

Then Omicron hits. Omicron, as we've seen is vaccine-resistant. It spread pretty much unchecked regardless of anything we did, and since it was closer to the flu in its severity, it didn't cause the widespread chaos earlier strains might have. But the vaccines were wearing off, and boosters only provided a temporary marginal benefit (nowhere near as much as the original vaccines provided). So you have the unvaccinated who have the longer-lasting natural immunity who have a wider array of antibodies, against the vaccinated who only had a small selection of antibodies that were poorly suited to this strain.

What do you think is going to happen?
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Re: There's disturbing vaccine data coming from Scotland
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2022, 07:59:33 pm »
Well, well, well...they've found a way to 'save' Social Security.    :smokin:
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Re: There's disturbing vaccine data coming from Scotland
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2022, 08:41:49 pm »
So I've been thinking about this... are the vaccines themselves making the immune system weaker?

Yes, yes, yes, and yes!  By design, they are engineered to suppress the immune system in order to gain control of  cells to produce protein spikes.  We have known this for over a year now.
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Re: There's disturbing vaccine data coming from Scotland
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2022, 11:56:52 pm »
So I've been thinking about this... are the vaccines themselves making the immune system weaker? I doubt it—after all, cases did go down in the spring, almost to elimination. So there was a temporary positive effect.

But consider: we do know that natural immunity appears to be longer-lasting than that from the vaccines, because more of the spike proteins are recognized by the immune system that way. So when Delta hit, a strain that was more contagious but not as vaccine-resistant, it infected a large portion of the unvaccinated, leaving them either dead (which wasn't common) or with natural immunity.

Then Omicron hits. Omicron, as we've seen is vaccine-resistant. It spread pretty much unchecked regardless of anything we did, and since it was closer to the flu in its severity, it didn't cause the widespread chaos earlier strains might have. But the vaccines were wearing off, and boosters only provided a temporary marginal benefit (nowhere near as much as the original vaccines provided). So you have the unvaccinated who have the longer-lasting natural immunity who have a wider array of antibodies, against the vaccinated who only had a small selection of antibodies that were poorly suited to this strain.

What do you think is going to happen?
Catching the disease is hardly a guarantee of death for the unvaccinated. A lot depends on existing comorbidities, for starters. The more of those conditions are present, the greater the likelihood of a severe case, hospitalization, and even death. In the absence of those conditions, the prognosis for a good outcome is good, even without ionophores, zinc, Vitamins D and C, and antihistamines to reduce congestion and inflammation.
If those regimens are followed at the first sign of symptoms, the probability of hospitalization or death is significantly reduced, but let's remember that overall the probability of death as an outcome of infection was less than 0.3%, even without any early treatment before vaccines were available and while the knowledge of effective treatments was being censored from YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook, and people who were trying to make those treatments known were being deplatformed and slandered by the CDC, NIAID, FDA, and others who have some fiscal or other motive for putting people in hospitals on a vent, where the likelihood of dying becomes considerably greater. I won't bother to note that Remdesevir, according to some studies is known for causing kidney failure, and that's enough to finish a patient off.

So, the whole objective is to avoid permitting the disease to develop to the point of requiring hospitalization, and those are the very treatment regimens the Medical Establishment and bureaucrats attacked.

Now, many of the unvaccinated have had COVID, survived, and acquired antibodies ("natural immunity") to the entire virus, not just the spike protein, which is a more robust defense against the disease, and the selfsame injections which supposedly protected against infection by spreading of serious illness and death fromCOVID are failing to do so.

But I think it would be inaccurate to posit that being unvaccinated is any sort of a death sentence, and at present, with death rates for the vaccinated (not raw numbers, but deaths per 10,000 or 100,000 cases) climbing to compete, any advantage gained by getting the shots is a matter for personal consideration.

There are millions of us who don't get the flu shots, and don't get the flu, either.
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