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Booster shots needed against omicron, CDC studies show
« on: January 21, 2022, 04:42:00 pm »
Booster shots needed against omicron, CDC studies show
By MIKE STOBBE 23 minutes ago

NEW YORK (AP) — Three studies released Friday offered more evidence that COVID-19 vaccines are standing up to the omicron variant, at least among people who received booster shots.

They are the first large U.S. studies to look at vaccine protection against omicron, health officials said.

The papers echo previous research — including studies in Germany, South Africa and the U.K. — indicating available vaccines are less effective against omicron than earlier versions of the coronavirus, but also that boosters significantly improve protection.

The first study looked at hospitalizations and emergency room and urgent care center visits in 10 states, from August to this month.

It found vaccine effectiveness was best after three doses of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines in preventing COVID-19-associated emergency department and urgent care visits. Protection dropped from 94% during the delta wave to 82% during the omicron wave. Protection from just two doses was lower, especially if six months had passed since the second dose.

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Re: Booster shots needed against omicron, CDC studies show
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2022, 04:46:21 pm »
Thanks, but no thanks.  I can deal with a case of the flu or a bad cold; I'm not some cucked liberal p*ssy.

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Re: Booster shots needed against omicron, CDC studies show
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2022, 01:07:39 am »
The only thing this shows is that the vaccines lack the robust, long-running protection needed to end the pandemic for good, which should be grounds to rescind EUA.
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Re: Booster shots needed against omicron, CDC studies show
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Re: Booster shots needed against omicron, CDC studies show
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2022, 05:25:54 am »
Protection dropped from 94% during the delta wave to 82% during the omicron wave.

The word "protection" above is defined as "preventing COVID-19–associated emergency department and urgent care encounters".  So what they are saying is that only 6% of 3-jabbers ended up at urgent care or ER for the delta variant while 18% of 3-jabbers ended up at urgent care or ER for omicron variant.  The crucial piece of information that is omitted here is the percentage of no-jabbers that ended up either place.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e3.htm
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Re: Booster shots needed against omicron, CDC studies show
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2022, 03:34:14 pm »
The word "protection" above is defined as "preventing COVID-19–associated emergency department and urgent care encounters".  So what they are saying is that only 6% of 3-jabbers ended up at urgent care or ER for the delta variant while 18% of 3-jabbers ended up at urgent care or ER for omicron variant.  The crucial piece of information that is omitted here is the percentage of no-jabbers that ended up either place.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e3.htm
  No, it means that, when adjusted for number vaccinated vs. unvaccinated in the whole population, sixteen times as many unvaccinated per capita were being hospitalized as unvaccinated.

But with omicron, that correlation disappeared. Except, allegedly, for the boosted—but I have my serious doubts given the federal government's contracts with Pfizer and Moderna.
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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2022, 04:48:22 pm »
  No, it means that, when adjusted for number vaccinated vs. unvaccinated in the whole population, sixteen times as many unvaccinated per capita were being hospitalized as unvaccinated.

That is not what the data shows.  Looking at the CDC data chart now.

Data collected from the following states ended before omicron hit.  The data from these states should have been excluded, but it wasn't:

California - December 21
Colorado - December 19
Indiana - December 26
Minnesota - December 25
Wisconsin - December 25
New York - December 18
Oregon - December 24
Texas - December 16
Utah - December 24
Washington - December 24

So with huge states like Texas, New York, and California on that list, they represent a sizeable portion of a study on the effectiveness of booster jabs on omicron when omicron wasn't even present.

Now, the data itself:

Urgent care /  ER visits:

Total - 222,772
Unjabbed - 105,083
One-jabbed - Omitted (i.e. number folded in with 'unjabbed')
Two jabbed (6 mo. before visit) - 41,375
Two jabbed (within 6 mo. of visit) - 57,915
Three jabbed - 18,399
Number who actually had Covid - 53,719

So 76% of the people included in a data study about the effectiveness of mRNA jabs were people who went to an urgent care clinic or an ER with a cold, flu, bronchitis, pneumonia, sinus infection, headache, etc. BUT WHO DID NOT HAVE COVID.

It should be a crime to pass off this data as the support for a claim that 'sixteen times as many unvaccinated per capita were being hospitalized as unvaccinated'.

But here is another big clue from the data.  Of the 222,772 visits, 204,745 are listed as 'Delta Variance Predominance period while 18,027 are listed as 'Omicron Variance Predominance period.  Never mind the fact that only 24% actually had Covid, it also shows that the data overrepresents an earlier period before omicron was prevalent.

This data shows that it is possible that every single 3-jabbed person could have tested positive from Covid while every single 'unvaccinated' [sic] person could have tested negative.  This is statistical malpractice at best, and extremist propaganda at worst.
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