Baseball 2024

[DCPatriot]

If the runner on second was called out for interference, then there can be no infield fly rule out following that!

The only thing I can think of...whether or not it is an automatic infield fly rule, a baserunner cannot come into physical contact or block the path of an infielder attempting to make a defensive play.

PS:  Hope the Orioles exceed the AL East Pennant or Wildcard race by more than 1 game.

[catfish1957]

If the runner on second was called out for interference, then there can be no infield fly rule out following that!

Using the analogy of the timing of a  run scoring before an out in the field seems to provide a precedent.  Seems bat contact, subequent iF pop out at the plate would precede the runner interference event.   I was under the understanding that the rhubarb was over whether interference took place.

Surprised a replay wasn't invoked to at least consult the rule book.

Of course, I don't own a baseball rule book either, and have been surprised by some things I didn't know.

[cato potatoe]

MLB needs to get rid of the infield fly rule.  Recall the Sam Holbrook debacle from 2012.  Most of the umpires don't have enough sense to judge "ordinary effort" or the interaction of IFR with other rules.  A double play is not the end of the world. 

[DCPatriot]

@Bigun   @catfish1957

Thought we were discussing the replay of the O's vs White Sox the other day...but last night, Juan Soto was called OUT for interfering with the Angels' SS on another infield fly...Boone was tossed for jawing with the umpires.

Seems that the runner (Soto) had to get back to 2nd base so that he wouldn't be "doubled off"...he even attempted to go BEHIND the infielder, but said infielder "misjudged" the fly and fell back into Soto...who was promptly called OUT!

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/40243281/yankees-rally-win-wonky-interference-call-1st

[catfish1957]

MLB needs to get rid of the infield fly rule.  Recall the Sam Holbrook debacle from 2012.  Most of the umpires don't have enough sense to judge "ordinary effort" or the interaction of IFR with other rules.  A double play is not the end of the world.

You make good points, but I can see infielders creating a defensive cottage industry out of decoying a catch, dropping the ball, and making snap DP's.

[cato potatoe]

You make good points, but I can see infielders creating a defensive cottage industry out of decoying a catch, dropping the ball, and making snap DP's.

That's OK with me if they are competent enough to pull it off.  Most of the rule changes seem to favor the offense, and this can occasionally shorten a game.  I would get rid of balks too.

[catfish1957]

That's OK with me if they are competent enough to pull it off.  Most of the rule changes seem to favor the offense, and this can occasionally shorten a game.  I would get rid of balks too.

Interesting take.  Another pitcher cottage industry of a mid pitch  circular moves to first base that would pretty much kill the stolen base.
That sure would speed up the game.

[catfish1957]

Surprised no one has commented on MLB consolidating records of MLB and the Negro leagues.

I sure support promoting those leagues of the '20's to '50's, because there were sure some great talents.  And the public needs to recognize them. 

OTOH, MLB AGAIN fails to realize that a huge amount of fan love, is the charm of the records.  I grew up with numbers like 714, 4191, etc.  ingrained into my baseball psyche.

Leave it to modern MLB to "F" that up

[Bigun]

@Bigun   @catfish1957

Thought we were discussing the replay of the O's vs White Sox the other day...but last night, Juan Soto was called OUT for interfering with the Angels' SS on another infield fly...Boone was tossed for jawing with the umpires.

Seems that the runner (Soto) had to get back to 2nd base so that he wouldn't be "doubled off"...he even attempted to go BEHIND the infielder, but said infielder "misjudged" the fly and fell back into Soto...who was promptly called OUT!

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/40243281/yankees-rally-win-wonky-interference-call-1st

How in the hell can you make an interference call on a play in which the batter has already been called out and the ball is dead?

[cato potatoe]

Interesting take.  Another pitcher cottage industry of a mid pitch  circular moves to first base that would pretty much kill the stolen base.
That sure would speed up the game.

It would to some extent.  But the pitcher has to work around the timer and limited disengagements.  The timer is obvious, stepoffs are obvious, the throw over is obvious, and it seems like the umpires would have less to misjudge.

[Lando Lincoln]

Had she put her damned cell phone away, this probably would not have happened.

Not always. I have known this guy for at least 30 years. Super guy. He assured me that he was paying attention. He only lost sight of the ball for an instant.

https://deathattheballpark.wordpress.com/2017/01/26/a-personal-tragedy/